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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
#14562497 - 06/04/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im actually LESS suicidal than i was before ever taking psychedelics but I still get suicidal thoughts every now and then, maybe every other week. Before tripping i had them daily though.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: thissongis]
#14562501 - 06/04/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: it all goes back to your original question I think...would you rather be happily stupid or a frustrated intellectual?
you wouldn't know you were stupid if you were though, so there wouldn't be a worry for the need to be intellectual. I prefer to be frustrated though, makes me think more 
I like to think of myself as a frustrated idiot...but at least I KNOW Im an idiot. With the pills I wouldnt be furstrated but Id be oblivious to the fact that Im an idiot.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562505 - 06/04/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Intellect is merely a part of intelligence. To label yourself as an intellectual is being caught up in the mind and of course you will be frustrated/miserable.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562508 - 06/04/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: I think that the medication is a form of government mind control to make me a cog in their sheep machine.
But why do you give a fuck, even if it's true? Wouldn't you prefer being happy most of the time?
it all goes back to your original question I think...would you rather be happily stupid or a frustrated intellectual?
Well, what's your answer?
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I never had any suicidal thoughts until I started messing with street-grade ecstasy.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: sirdonut]
#14562509 - 06/04/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i never labeled myself as such, see above post. im an idiot. Im about as dumb as a sack of hammers.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562517 - 06/04/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: it all goes back to your original question I think...would you rather be happily stupid or a frustrated intellectual?
you wouldn't know you were stupid if you were though, so there wouldn't be a worry for the need to be intellectual. I prefer to be frustrated though, makes me think more 
I like to think of myself as a frustrated idiot...but at least I KNOW Im an idiot. With the pills I wouldnt be furstrated but Id be oblivious to the fact that Im an idiot.
Have you tried them before?
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
#14562523 - 06/04/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I was on medication all through grade school and high school and it fucked me up. Ritalin made me a nervous wreck, prozac made me suicidal wellbutrin, lithium and abilify made me a zombie.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562526 - 06/04/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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well then by your criteria you should be happy but it seems as if you're not.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: sirdonut]
#14562531 - 06/04/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes but I cant logically work it out because not only am I an idiot I am damaged goods because of psychedelics. Logic doesnt work with me so I am incapable of carrying on any sorta good debate and get easily confused. I cannot figure any of this out.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562536 - 06/04/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: Yes, I was on medication all through grade school and high school and it fucked me up. Ritalin made me a nervous wreck, prozac made me suicidal wellbutrin, lithium and abilify made me a zombie.
I'm going to be prescribed either Adderall or Vyvanse in about a month and a half or so..stimulants keep me in a positive groove, I absolutely love them.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid] 1
#14562537 - 06/04/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: I never had any suicidal thoughts until I started messing with street-grade ecstasy. 
Lord I feel your pain on that point. I feel like street ecstasy did some serious emotional damage to me and I didn't even abuse it.
Those hangovers are nothing to fuck with, dude. Thanks to shitty ecstasy, I now know what panic attacks are like. I would never take back psychedelics but I would leap at the opportunity to take that shit back.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
#14562541 - 06/04/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: Yes, I was on medication all through grade school and high school and it fucked me up. Ritalin made me a nervous wreck, prozac made me suicidal wellbutrin, lithium and abilify made me a zombie.
I'm going to be prescribed either Adderall or Vyvanse in about a month and a half or so..stimulants keep me in a positive groove, I absolutely love them. 
I also took adderall and concerta.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: sirdonut]
#14562544 - 06/04/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know you're not an idiot, so there is no need to claim yourself as such. The basic problem, as I've emphasized enough, is just being too caught up in the mind. It's understandable as nearly everyone is but meditating rather than doing anymore drugs is probably the most intelligent move.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562545 - 06/04/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: i never labeled myself as such, see above post. im an idiot. Im about as dumb as a sack of hammers.
Realizing your dumb is still a step above someone who is a fucktard and is oblivious to the fact they are a fucktard. Being aware of shit is more important than knowing shit, to me....and shit
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
#14562549 - 06/04/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Be careful with those stimmies Poid, they can be really nasty. Some people handle them better than others. I unfortunately fall into that camp of kinda needing them but also being really bad about compulsive re-dosing, so I restrict myself to the weak shit (ritalin).
Vyvanse seems good too though, I've been thinking about changing my RX to that.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#14562556 - 06/04/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: i never labeled myself as such, see above post. im an idiot. Im about as dumb as a sack of hammers.
lol this dude is sociopathic and depressed.. this post reminded me of him
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: thissongis]
#14562555 - 06/04/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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They ain't for everyone, that's for damn sure. I like them though. Stops the fighting inside for a while so I can look around past the radius of my own self-destruction.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#14562559 - 06/04/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: I never had any suicidal thoughts until I started messing with street-grade ecstasy. 
Lord I feel your pain on that point. I feel like street ecstasy did some serious emotional damage to me and I didn't even abuse it.
Those hangovers are nothing to fuck with, dude. Thanks to shitty ecstasy, I now know what panic attacks are like. I would never take back psychedelics but I would leap at the opportunity to take that shit back.
It's somewhat comforting to know that others have gone through what I have..man, I was such a confused young fella thanks to that shit...
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Tchan909 said: Be careful with those stimmies Poid, they can be really nasty. Some people handle them better than others. I unfortunately fall into that camp of kinda needing them but also being really bad about compulsive re-dosing, so I restrict myself to the weak shit (ritalin).
Vyvanse seems good too though, I've been thinking about changing my RX to that.
Yeah I'll be sure to be careful, thanks for the warning. 
They're so fucking tempting, though! 
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MisterMuscaria said: Yes, I was on medication all through grade school and high school and it fucked me up. Ritalin made me a nervous wreck, prozac made me suicidal wellbutrin, lithium and abilify made me a zombie.
I'm going to be prescribed either Adderall or Vyvanse in about a month and a half or so..stimulants keep me in a positive groove, I absolutely love them. 
I also took adderall and concerta.
Did you like either of them?
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: sirdonut]
#14562572 - 06/04/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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sirdonut said: I know you're not an idiot, so there is no need to claim yourself as such. The basic problem, as I've emphasized enough, is just being too caught up in the mind. It's understandable as nearly everyone is but meditating rather than doing anymore drugs is probably the most intelligent move.
Even if im not an idiot im definitely not playing with a full deck. I cant even set foot into P&S because I do not even make sense to myself. I get pwned in every debate I ever get myself into. Sure I meet people who are dumber than me...people who work at walmarts, listen to ICP, talk in text speak, do meth, live in trailers, etc. I may not be one of them but my thoughts are so disorganized that Ive ended up on the streets multiple times.
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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
#14562576 - 06/04/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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loll a thread a little while ago said that sociopaths get 5x the dopamine as a regular person

stims are so tempting i eat benzedrex cottons
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