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how much to dose with fresh harvest????
#14561242 - 06/04/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I read damions elementary coir tek and it calls for 5qts of spawn to a brick of coir and I forget how much verm he said, but I have about 3 to 3- 1/2 quarts of spawn. how much coir and verm would I use for my spawn? Thanks in advance
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Depends how big your container is... and how deep you want your substrate.. I usually do 1:2, 1:3...
I also followed Damion's tek, and just used what I needed...
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His tek needs 2 quarts of verm, total of 10 quarts of substrate with optionally 1 quart of gypsum.
3 and 1/2qts of spawn to 7qts of substrate. There ya go.
You can keep the leftovers in a flower pot outside.
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1 quart of gypsum is way too much for 1 gallon of water.
I use 1/4 cup of gypsum & still have a bit of gypsum sediment @ the bottom of the bucket.
2 quarts course verm. 2-1/2 quart medium verm. 3 quart of fine verm.
1 standard 600-650g brick of coir is 9 quarts.
That's 67-72g per quart.
As for water content, I'd use 3/4 of a gallon.
but honestly, I'd just G2G those jars & have at least 18 jars for two monos per the tek.
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Have to call it a quits for now had to move back in with the parents (i know it blows) so this is my last run for now, so I just need what I can work with just 3 and a half quarts of spawn. Small mono or dub tub setup.
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well, you'll be alright w/ all the math I provided for ya 
I'd probably do 6 quarts of the coir + 2/3 of the verm (whichever you have) & 2/3 of the water...
that way you'll have a decently high spawn ratio & the right depth.
Try a mini if you can find the tub, if not dub it'll be.
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todlow said: well, you'll be alright w/ all the math I provided for ya 
I'd probably do 6 quarts of the coir + 2/3 of the verm (whichever you have) & 2/3 of the water...
that way you'll have a decently high spawn ratio & the right depth.
Try a mini if you can find the tub, if not dub it'll be.
Thank you sir. I can find the tub easily at my local target
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I'd recommend using 1" holes for the mini, also.
Either that, or make sure to use a little tighter polyfil in the tub.
You just gotta mess w/ it a bit to get her dialed in but once you do...Zang...
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hey there... i used 2 quarts wheat to about 4 and a bit quarts of coir/verm/gypsum in this...
 it's a 5 kg kitty litter bucket... good stuff..
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Re: Need advice on spawn ratio [Re: Matty_Rulez]
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That looks sweet
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just picked up 2 shoebox sized containers 6.5qts. I believe this will work out nicely.
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I used the same size for my GH trays...lids didn't work properly & I always got early pins...not pins before 100% but before consolidation.
I recommend drill 1 3/4" hole in the center & covering it w/ an SFD or equal & wrapping the sides w/ saran wrap to avoid excess AE.
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todlow said: I used the same size for my GH trays...lids didn't work properly & I always got early pins...not pins before 100% but before consolidation.
I recommend drill 1 3/4" hole in the center & covering it w/ an SFD or equal & wrapping the sides w/ saran wrap to avoid excess AE.
Lil confused. Am I drilling one hole on the wide side or 2 on opposite ends of the wide side. And what is sfd btw?
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sfd = synthetic filter disk
1 qty. - 3/4" diameter hole in the center of the lid
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todlow said: sfd = synthetic filter disk
1 qty. - 3/4" diameter hole in the center of the lid
thank you todlow. i must say you are very helpful. finally up and running just a lil concern about beads of water on the top. what can i do to remedy this? i just put the dub tub right now.sorry for being a pain
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beads of water where?
In the colonizing tub?
That's fine. Here's how my tubs look during colonization:
<--Initially after Spawning
<---Several days into colonization.
That's all condensation on the interior of the tub. Just let it be.
Once you introduce to Fruiting Conditions, you can dab off the surface of the substrate w/ a paper towel where the water has pooled.
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my apologies. i introduced fruiting conditions today. i forgot to upload the other pic of the shoe box dub tub. i followed what you told me to do sir todlow made one 3/4" hole i have little beads of water on the sub .
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Re: Need advice on spawn ratio [Re: anonjon]
#14650875 - 06/21/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your substrate should look like this during introduction to Fruiting Conditions:

Notice the large amount of droplets of water. You provide ample FAE w/ loose poly & a fan in the room or by fanning 2-4 times a day.
That will cause the moisture to evaporate, causing massive pinning. If you notice the RH/substrate a bit dry, mist 1-2 times per day, depending on fanning & look.
It looks like you only have 1 hole in the top tub. I'd recommend setting up the dub tubs like a pseudo small mono.
1 high hole on each end of the tub
1 hole in the center (a little off centered from one another) of each side
It actually looks like your RH is low from that picture. Isn't that immediately after introducing Fruiting Conditions?
I get a lot of condensation on the sides of my tubs during colonization & Fruiting (a lot less during Fruiting).
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Yes I snapped that picture after sealing it off. I did what you told me to do by drilling. One three quater inch hole in the center. Ill make the adjustments tomorrow.
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I'd recommend taking out the poly for tonight then.
As long as you're doing it in the morning, you'll be fine.
You're going to have to adjust your poly for the tubs, but a bit of fine tuning & you'll get it
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todlow said: I'd recommend taking out the poly for tonight then.
As long as you're doing it in the morning, you'll be fine.
You're going to have to adjust your poly for the tubs, but a bit of fine tuning & you'll get it 
thank you my good man. just took out the polyfill
Ok so im going to drill these holes tomorrow. refer to the picture below i made circles were the holes are going to be 3/4"
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I'm not an expert on the old dub tub method, but you may get too much FAE w/ two holes on the sides.
I'd start w/ one & adjust the poly accordingly.
If you can't dial it in FAE wise from there, I'd add the other two holes, but I think w/ that small of a substrate 1 per side is enough.
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todlow said: I'm not an expert on the old dub tub method, but you may get too much FAE w/ two holes on the sides.
I'd start w/ one & adjust the poly accordingly.
If you can't dial it in FAE wise from there, I'd add the other two holes, but I think w/ that small of a substrate 1 per side is enough.
sounds like a plan. btw just left you a rating 5 shrooms for you for being so helpful
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I try to help as much as I can & tell others the things I've learned through trial and error in mycology.
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this is how she is looking after making the adjustments. on the long side i made the holes lower than the original hole i made , so basically 1 hole high on opposite ends and 1 hole low opposite end. looks good to me i guess there is fae notice the dry spot by the hole.
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w/ that much condensation you may want to check your FAE.
You fanning twice a day or so? It's all a balancing act between FAE & RH.
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todlow said: w/ that much condensation you may want to check your FAE.
You fanning twice a day or so? It's all a balancing act between FAE & RH.
i made the adjustments around noon or so i guess im due for a fanning, think i can get away with unplugging the poly fill and and hitting the tub with a fan for like a minute or two? i dont want to go through the hassel of taping and un tapping. but if i do then so be it. going to have to purchase more masking tape lol
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Just take out all the poly & fan the exterior of the tub for a minute or two really good. That'll cause plenty of FAE.
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todlow said: Just take out all the poly & fan the exterior of the tub for a minute or two really good. That'll cause plenty of FAE.
fan good idea on low setting or should do it the old fashion way?
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At first i'd loosen the poly a lot & take out the poly to fan.
See how that works w/out a fan in the room. but a small fan across the room not directly facing the tub won't hurt anything.
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update
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ok guys just harvested my first flush. wanted to know how much to dose with fresh mushies. i had a good time with 2grams dry. so what would be the equivalent to dose fresh ones.
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nice mushi dude. 
for wet vs. dry multiply your dry weight times 9. So if you normally do 3g dry do 27-30g wet.
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TranscendingLife said: nice mushi dude. 
for wet vs. dry multiply your dry weight times 9. So if you normally do 3g dry do 27-30g wet.
42 grams it weighed alone. 1st flush 256 grams
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cut off the cap.
The base of the stem is more potent anyways.
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how much to dose with fresh harvest?
uhh, first time tripping? ~20 fresh grams
want to get to know the fruits of your labor? ~50
making a tea with a lemon juice or citric acid is the best way in my opinion.
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Re: Need advice on spawn ratio [Re: k00laid]
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Re: Need advice on spawn ratio [Re: k00laid]
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k00laid said: how much to dose with fresh harvest?
uhh, first time tripping? ~20 fresh grams
want to get to know the fruits of your labor? ~50
making a tea with a lemon juice or citric acid is the best way in my opinion.
Not my first time tripping. I usually dose 2 grams dry and have a nice time. But I'm tripping with my gf. Its her 1st time. So we just ate 18 grams 2 dry grams x 9= 18 wet grams
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i thought you changed the topic title to that
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Re: Need advice on spawn ratio [Re: k00laid]
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OP - have fun I would've done more... but that's me. The further you go, the less you come back.
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TranscendingLife said: OP - have fun I would've done more... but that's me. The further you go, the less you come back.
lol i would do more but i have to go to work.
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as promised

on a side note. how do i get my second flush going? lol
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Fully dunk bulk substrate for 4 hours maximum.
Or you can heavily mist the substrate & you'll pull a few more oz. outta it.
I have a "One Flush Wonder" tek in my signature w/ lazy "dunk" methods that work well enough.
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Yup. Not feeling anything. little body high. My gf feels the same. =(
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eat more + lemon juice
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Just made it an even 20 grams. Off to get some lemon juice or anything citrus
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Walking right now gt's ftl
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18g between two people? You're lucky you're feeling anything at all. If dry that would be less than a gram per person. I'd triple that amount.
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Re: Need advice on spawn ratio [Re: carnage11]
#14741199 - 07/09/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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carnage11 said: 18g between two people? You're lucky you're feeling anything at all. If dry that would be less than a gram per person. I'd triple that amount.
No we started with 18 then ate 2 more so we had 20 a piece. I felt really drunk that's all really and it just had me wired couldn't go to sleep. I came to the conclusion that I rather eat them dry then fresh. Never had a stomach ache until I had them fresh. I remember eating two grams of eq's dry and that was a great trip. I felt really good. I fed off peoples energy. If you were sad you made me sad .you made me sad if you were happy I was happy. I peaked then I dropped peaked again then dropped. I would stare at the walls and it was breathing. Lights were making an aura. Tv was freaky.I saw melting faces and stuff. I'll give it another when they nice and dry.
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