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The right to be healthy
#14560555 - 06/04/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is there one? Does it need to be enforced like the right to free speech and all that jazz?
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The_Ghost
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Hold that thought. Maybe once all the drugs are legalized we can talk about something like that. The right to be healthy w the current 'health' industry? Yeah right..
In any case ppl should have the right to be unhealthy if they want but having optimum conditions and treatments provided would be nice.
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: The_Ghost]
#14560609 - 06/04/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Being healthy shouldn't be a right. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to weed out all the people with fat genes.
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14560623 - 06/04/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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where is somebody born with cystic fibrosis or progeria or harlequin baby syndrome's right to be healthy?
who's violating their rights, nature? the laws of chance? their parents for carrying the genes?
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Pigasus]
#14560629 - 06/04/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pigasus said: where is somebody born with cystic fibrosis or progeria or harlequin baby syndrome's right to be healthy?
who's violating their rights, nature? the laws of chance? their parents for carrying the genes?
That shit is fucked UP.
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14560650 - 06/04/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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mongo lloyd said:
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Pigasus said: where is somebody born with cystic fibrosis or progeria or harlequin baby syndrome's right to be healthy?
who's violating their rights, nature? the laws of chance? their parents for carrying the genes?
That shit is fucked UP.
honestly if I had to pick out of the 3 I'd probably choose that one since most born with it die in their infancy...
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Pigasus]
#14560654 - 06/04/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah for real. I'd fucking hate to grow up with progeria...
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14560663 - 06/04/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: Yeah for real. I'd fucking hate to grow up with progeria... 
living your life knowing you won't survive past about age 20, meanwhile having to deal with health problems that normally only geriatrics have? count me out man.
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Pigasus]
#14560682 - 06/04/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pigasus said:
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mongo lloyd said:
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Pigasus said: where is somebody born with cystic fibrosis or progeria or harlequin baby syndrome's right to be healthy?
who's violating their rights, nature? the laws of chance? their parents for carrying the genes?
That shit is fucked UP.
honestly if I had to pick out of the 3 I'd probably choose that one since most born with it die in their infancy...
That's a good point. Apparently, the chances of a birth with it is 1/300000, which seems like quite a lot.
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I don't think there is any specific "right" to be healthy.
One has a right to with their body what they please, inasmuch as they are not impinging on the rights of someone else.
So, in possessing the right to do what you damn well please with your own body, you can then be healthy or unhealthy.
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we either have the rights to every and anything. or the rights to nothing.
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I think that healthfulness falls under the umbrella of "the pursuit of happiness." So yes, health is a human right, according to the U.S. constitution.
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ahh but you see good sir, those aren't actually rights. what they really are is privileges. and privileges can be taken away.
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Pigasus]
#14561195 - 06/04/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pigasus said: where is somebody born with cystic fibrosis or progeria or harlequin baby syndrome's right to be healthy?
who's violating their rights, nature? the laws of chance? their parents for carrying the genes?
natural disease and genetic defects would be mother nature doling out suprise buttsecks. You cant really avoid that but if there was a right to be healthy, resources, medicine, therapy, would be given to them free of charge to maintain there health as best as possible with current treatments and whatnot. At least thats what I see as the type of rights that would fall under the right to be healthy.
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Tchan909 said: I think that healthfulness falls under the umbrella of "the pursuit of happiness." So yes, health is a human right, according to the U.S. constitution.
That's from the preamble to the Declaration of Independence.
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Viveka]
#14561469 - 06/04/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Live and learn.
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Patlal
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Just eat healthy and exercise. No need for a right or law or whatever, just do it.
As for all the fucked up desease, people are working on it..
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Patlal]
#14561490 - 06/04/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Just eat healthy and exercise. No need for a right or law or whatever, just do it.
Yes. This works for everybody, both preventing and curing all illnesses known to man.
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Tchan909 said:
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Patlal said: Just eat healthy and exercise. No need for a right or law or whatever, just do it.
Yes. This works for everybody
Indeed it does
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Patlal]
#14561498 - 06/04/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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See what I did there 
Same as you
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Re: The right to be healthy [Re: Patlal]
#14561515 - 06/04/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doesn't work so damn great for paraplegics.
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it shouldn't cost a premium to afford food that doesn't wreck your body.. at least
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Nutritious food is cheap, but only if you've got the hookups - IE a kitchen to store and prepare it in.
That's pretty much how this society is. Live a possessions-based existence or wither and die.
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