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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14563720 - 06/05/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I did for a while after mine too.  Ever since I read a lot aobut OBE here on the shroomery (after experiencing the events) I have not so much been trying to avoid them.  I feel like if they come on now, I'm a little more aware of what they are, their potential, and how to deal with them.

Now - does this mean i'll keep my cool next tiem it happens?  prob not -- i expect to freak out just like the last times.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: Kada]
    #14563726 - 06/05/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I love sleeping on my back but both times I have experienced this type of
thing I was sleeping on my back :uhoh:


Definitely scary. I thought I was possessed because I was staying at my ex's
house at the time and her house was haunted as shit. I never seen any type of
creature tho. But I couldnt move or speak even when I tried to yell out for
help I ended up just sounding like a retard lol.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14563760 - 06/05/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

tell me about how her house was haunted as shit.  must've been scary in conjunction w/ this paralysis.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: memes]
    #14563853 - 06/05/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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yep - always on  my back.


Indeed.  This is interesting.

I have had maybe 7-8 experiences with this kind of thing over the years, I can't remember exactly how many now.  The first was when I was 18, on vacation with friends, after a night (a few days and nights, actually) of heavy drinking.  All I remember is it was a coiled ball of energy with an extremely malicious presence.  I was terrified!

The next time was the worst of all of them.  It came a few months later when I had moved to college.  I don't remember the circumstances, I had been smoking a lot of weed every night; but this time it involved the blood-soaked body of a dead girl, thrown over my chest, that I couldn't remove no matter how hard I writherd.  It was so utterly realistic, nauseating and terrifying, words couldn't do it justice.

Another one that stands out in my mind happened maybe two years ago.  This time it was a big, demonic looking bulldog pinning me down, drooling over me.  This one probably lasted longer than any that preceded it, and was about as scary as any of them.

Fuck, this stuff is bizarre.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: Asante]
    #14563884 - 06/05/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Know what it's called when you're sleeping, and then you half wake up and see your bedroom, but hallucinate things in it?

I've seen my dog hanging by its neck on my ceiling, and spiders, people standing next to my bed and staring at me, and all sorts of weird shit.  Extremely vivid, and not just shadows.

It goes away when it finally registers in my brain and I start screaming.  I guess the adrenaline wakes me up from the half-sleep state.

Never had anything sit on me though.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: BothHands]
    #14563887 - 06/05/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

can you move during these episodes BothHands?


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: memes]
    #14563898 - 06/05/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I've actually propped myself up on my elbow before to get a better view of what it was.  And my eyes were wide open.  And then when I saw what it was I jumped like 10 feet in the air and started screaming and it went away.

But I never sleep on my back.  I wonder if it's related.  Maybe if I slept on my back I'd get paralyzed?

It's like continuing to dream even though your eyes are open.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: BothHands]
    #14563912 - 06/05/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There wasn't much "dreaming" about my episodes :frown:


not at all a dream.  entirely real.  horrible.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: memes]
    #14563922 - 06/05/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No, I mean it was entirely real until it disappeared.  Most times I don't go back to sleep.

Doesn't mean it's not a dream or caused by a similar mechanism in the brain.  I'm sure you don't believe an actual person was trying to rape your wife.

But yes, in the moment it is just as real as anything else.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: Asante]
    #14563941 - 06/05/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've heard demonic voices (it kind of sounded like an evil "grumbling") during the hypnagogic stage of consciousness...
It frightened me for a second, but then I got over it pretty quickly.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: BothHands]
    #14563950 - 06/05/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Those are called False Awakenings I get them a lot.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: altershroom]
    #14563980 - 06/05/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've never had sleep paralysis but yesterday it felt like some sort of entity poked my foot and I woke up. It was strange, surely it was just part of the last seconds of my dream though.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: altershroom]
    #14564008 - 06/05/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just looked it up, and I think it might be related to that too.  And it says subjects who get false awakenings also often get sleep paralysis.  So I'm sure they're all related.

But it's hard to explain.  I mean when I propped myself up, I actually propped myself up in the physical universe.  So I guess I was sleepwalking.  Or sleep-sorta-getting-up.  Which apparently is called a continuum.  And also related.  But just like a sleepwalker, my eyes were open even though I was asleep, and my brain was processing what's actually physically in front of me, but adding it's own things to it.

My mom gets sleep paralysis often.  Are these kinds of things hereditary?

It's also strange, because I see the exact same person she sees, in the exact way she describes him.  A man standing next to the bed, legs straight but bent over at the hip in a bowing position with his face 2 or 3 feet away from mine just staring at me.  But she can't move, and I can, and immediately do.  But he still stays there for a few seconds after I'm definitely completely 100% awake and already sitting upright.  Only about 3 seconds or so, but that's a long fucking time in the moment.


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Re: [Re: BothHands]
    #14564026 - 06/05/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So I am not alone.  I have thees things attack me from time to time when I pass out on my back...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14450989


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: memes]
    #14564031 - 06/05/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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meams said:
tell me about how her house was haunted as shit.  must've been scary in conjunction w/ this paralysis.





Yeah it was scary because at the time I did not know anything about sleep
paralysis and it was completely different from having a nightmare so I attributed
what happened to me as something ghostly related.


Her house was freaky. All the normal happenings you hear about. People walking around
downstairs when no one was home slamming cabinets and shit. She had a photo of this
little boys face captured when taking a picture of her dog. Waking up in a room full
of sun shine only to feel like this insanely pissed of / evil person or thing was
watching and or standing over you. All kinds of things.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: memes]
    #14564126 - 06/05/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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There wasn't much "dreaming" about my episodes :frown:


not at all a dream.  entirely real.  horrible.





I'm sure you got a healthy respect for what schizophrenics go through. Once its "real" to you, its a whole different ballpark altogether.


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest. You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises. They're Evil [Re: Asante]
    #14564139 - 06/05/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm sure you got a healthy respect for what schizophrenics go through. Once its "real" to you, its a whole different ballpark altogether.



Yah i can't even imagine.


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Re: [Re: Beanhead]
    #14564198 - 06/05/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does anybody sometimes feel like they are dying or that they can't breathe when in sleep paralysis?

I only experienced it once and it amused me and astonished me on all sorts of levels :eek:




I hate posting from a smartphone:(

But as I tried to say, I always feel like I can't breathe. One time I hallucinated I called out to my mom for help but she wouldn't. That was scary


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Re: They come at night and sit on your chest.You cannot move or breathe. Strange noises.They're Evil [Re: FlusH]
    #14564238 - 06/05/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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My daughter had bad constant reoccuring night terrors between the ages of 2 and 4.  She has not had them for the last couple years.

She would start screaming, and either violently trash around, or start sleep walking in a weird mental state.

We googled it, asked a few of our psychiatrist friends for recommendations, but never have we heard of those mythical creatures that sit on your chest or ghosts' that take your breath away.  Personally I feel there is a logical reason for sleep paralysis, more so than ghosts and whatnot. 

With our daughter, we found that what she eat's a couple hours before bed is what determined if she would have a night terror or not.  So heavy meats ( red meat like cow, deer, moose ) we stopped feeding her in the evenings, stuck to fish, soy, beans and that kinda stuff for protein and that made the difference.

I have no medical training, or any logical explanation other than a hunch, but I feel a strong imagination combined with your body working either on digesting, or some other energy consuming process is what will cause a night terror. 

I have had them too, I understand what the terror is all about, but its something that happens:shrug:  nothing to really worry about imo




Agreed.

It took my father many years to figure out that if he eats ice cream or similiar sweets in the evenings, horrible nightmares usually manifest.

I've never personally experienced true paralysis, but it sounds scary.


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Re: [Re: JT]
    #14564476 - 06/05/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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badchad said:
Interesting.  I guess I always sort of assumed night terrors were just a sever nightmare.

Its also curious that the DSM-IV clinical criteria usually describe amnesia.  It seems though that you guys clearly remember yours...




yeah, and night terrors usually involve you thrashing about and screaming.

sounds more like he is talking about sleep paralysis (parasomnia NOS) with hypnagogic hallucinations.

i had some sleep paralysis like that a few days ago actually. i was dreaming but completely aware of my room around me and then started to have this feeling like something really bad was going to happen. all of a sudden, i felt this thing reach over me and pin me down. i repeatedly looked up and saw its outline but i couldn't move. after a minute or so i "woke up," but not like normal waking up. i just kinda realized that i had my eyes open and i could suddenly move again.


***re-read the other posts. wiccan did mention sleep paralysis. what i was trying to say is that in psych, sleep paralysis is different to night terrors. both are scary though



I've had sleep paralysis a few times before.  It really sucks but it's definitely not night creatures.


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