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InvisibleLuman
Inverting the Pleroma

Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 400
Ego, Death and Artistic Creations
    #14558609 - 06/04/11 01:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, all.  I had some musings/questions on the subject.

I have recently found myself in a kind of quandary.  I have played guitar for about 8 years now.  I do not learn other artist's songs, nor do other artists influence my work beyond the impact they have on me as a person.  I progress by memorizing every note in a certain key, being able to play in key anywhere on the fretboard, and building chords and sweep patterns based off the notes.  This allows me to play almost completely from the "heart".  I really only improv when I play.

There are consequences, though, to supplying such blatant creativity on a daily basis.  It requires massive amounts of energy and equal amounts of something you could call "reason", which in this case is the faculty that, on a primitive level, governs where the next move of my fingers will fall based on the progression of the melodies thus far.  In a split second, every split second.

When caught up in the throes of ecstasy while playing, I am in heaven.  I am the pinnacle of me as a person.  It feels like all I was sent here to do shred.  Since there is little else desirable for me while living, this is basically my life, and I would like to do my best to see it to its peak.

But, all of the above seems to directly combat my more spiritual views on existence and living, in a way.

Basically, creating the art that I have given my life to achieve realization of and complete maximization of technique, seems to be nothing more than a narrative on the inherent madness and melancholy of my perception of human existence. 


Thus, why bother creating this art, when its purpose is as I mentioned just above?  Especially when so few would be comfortable with its motives?  It just seems to thrust me back further into solitude the deeper I go, hence the combative nature of it.

Yet:

I concurrently walk 2 paths to my demise.  I wrote a simple poem once coming down from a 3rd plateau DXM trip.  It said something along the lines of: "2 paths through a deep forest blah blah blah, at the end of the left one, basically the consummation of my artistic dream (what my ego most desires, I assume).  At the end of the right one,  a man in simple robes and a knowing smile.  I am the giant above, one foot firmly planted on each path".

Seems like a deep rooted excuse to brutally trample through the forest of life to try to attain god knows what to temporarily satisfy and unending urge to absorb all rampant energy, and use the power I have gained to displace it by my own musical means throughout every corner of the universe.  And now we may have reached my Lucifer Complex.  I don't even know anymore.

The deeper I go, the less of a person I seem to become in the eyes of others.  Perhaps because my style demands pure subconscious laid bare, and regularly laying bare the subconscious simply isn't healthy in this world?  Anyone have a viewpoint on this?

If you :wtf: I'm with you


Thanks if you read.


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"The soul?  Here we have no use for such frivolities."

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InvisibleMe_Roy
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Registered: 07/30/02
Posts: 3,230
Re: Ego, Death and Artistic Creations [Re: Luman]
    #14558630 - 06/04/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't believe that you're not influenced by the music that you've heard in the course of your life.

From what I understand, great musicians, composers, and thinkers tend not to purge themselves of their influences, but instead to work through their influences.  It would seem to me that you're only limiting yourself by pretending that you're without influence.

If you're playing on a guitar with frets, you're playing within the confines of a a western tonal system (division of the octave). 

Perhaps you find yourself in an existential quandary because you're presuming to work from a primitive bedrock of 'pure sound,' or 'the essence of the guitar,' or something like that. I don't believe that such things exist.  I think that there are only traditions of manipulating rhythms tones, overtones, harmonies,  and the sequences of notes we call melodies.

It sounds like you're isolating yourself from the world with your music, rather than opening yourself to the world through it.

My two cents.  Good luck.

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InvisibleLuman
Inverting the Pleroma

Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 400
Re: Ego, Death and Artistic Creations [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14558669 - 06/04/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you for your thoughts.

Perhaps I hid the point somewhat, I am not attempting to say that I am without influence from the artists I listen to, as the complete opposite is definitely the case.  I play a kind of metal mixed with classical/spanish guitar. 

I just meant it as more of saying... the influence was more on the feeling of the music rather than where I derive the style of the riffs/chords from.

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Perhaps you find yourself in an existential quandary because you're presuming to work from a primitive bedrock of 'pure sound,' or 'the essence of the guitar,' or something like that. I don't believe that such things exist.  I think that there are only traditions of manipulating rhythms tones, overtones, harmonies,  and the sequences of notes we call melodies.




I very much agree with the second part of this paragraph, though I would disagree with the first, as I always play in a given key.  This bedrock, though, is something I have begun to dabble with in manic states + cannabis.  Your refutation of such, and my acknowledgment of your take on it, saddens me, though what would I be if I didn't endeavor to experience it on my own.

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It sounds like you're isolating yourself from the world with your music, rather than opening yourself to the world through it.




No doubt, aye.  However, I am a rather quiet person and have always played for myself, so it feels only natural.


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