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AntiEverything
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14558748 - 06/04/11 03:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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im attempting to un-compare to the two and help you realize you could possibly be tricked by a stripper, just as you could be tricked by a timeshare salesmen, it depends on if you lie to yourself about what is really happening, you are the only one drawing a comparison. im trying to show you that either one could decieve someone
your first point is irrelevent anyway, stripper/prostitute it doesn't matter in this context
and if the person scamming your grandparents got arrested then it's obviously not legitimate, you never even made this point before and i was basing my entire argument on the premise that economics has no morality so what makes a economic transaction legitimate is whether or not it is illegal
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: AntiEverything]
#14558758 - 06/04/11 03:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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prostitutes get arrested too because what they are doing is illegal in majority of places 
I dont see how you can get tricked by a stripper. You know exactly what you are going to get before you pay for anything. It's all negotiated prior and you get what you pay for, ime.
you were the one who originally compared strippers to con artists. That's what made me try to make a real life connection on how the two were different. One actually carries out their promises and the other does not.
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14558774 - 06/04/11 03:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you are totally ignoring how arbitrary a value system is, to value something is to make the initial comparison, i'm trying to ellucidate how irrational this is. what springs forth from the valuation of something is what creates it's legitimacy , so either conning people is legitimate in a unversal sense becuase it isn't illegal, or stripping can be deemed illegimate unversally because of some moral value that trancends us objectively
i was only making the comparison of a stripper and a con artist in so far as they are legitimate by law
prostitute/stripper doesn't really matter, prostitution shouldnt be illegal anyway, i was trying to point out how arbitrary it is to value and compare things :P
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: AntiEverything]
#14558787 - 06/04/11 03:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So without reading much in the thread, here is my drunken stance:
I dont think dancing for money is wrong, neither is prostitution. However being personally involved with a stripper is another story. I could be friends with a stripper. Give her money. Buy her drinks and hang out, outside of the club. Being in a relationship/marriage with a stripper is out of the question. I understand its a business, and thats the way I intend to keep it.
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: skatealex2]
#14558812 - 06/04/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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nothing wrong with it at all! It's tough on the girls sometimes, but as long as the club is safe for the girls, I see nothing wrong with strippers. I've dated a few of them
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14558816 - 06/04/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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haha how did dating a stripper work out
id imagine if everyone was honest and open about everything it would be as awesome as you wanted it to be
i could see easily how things could get really fucked up really fast tho
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: AntiEverything]
#14558817 - 06/04/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you have been misinformed about conning people. It is illegal. Whatever, though, I still don't see why you even brought up con artists in the first place, lol.
I don't think there is anything wrong with stripping for money....I do, however, think there is something wrong with scamming/conning people out of their money(legally and morally..con artists go to jail all the time, strippers do not). Last time I checked, someone that walks into a strip club knows what they are paying for/getting themselves into.
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: Sundrop]
#14558828 - 06/04/11 03:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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con tricks do not imply illegality, idk where you are drawing this from
a con can be anything that decieves someone, so without condition, a stripper could be a con artist simply by what she does (say shes a man pretending to be a woman, that affirms the "con") they aren't mutually exclusive
cops are allowed to con people into all sorts of random tricks so in this way even most cops are con artists, when you see this you realize that business, money and labor have nothing to do with ethical valuation.
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: AntiEverything]
#14558843 - 06/04/11 04:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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AntiEverything said: haha how did dating a stripper work out
id imagine if everyone was honest and open about everything it would be as awesome as you wanted it to be
i could see easily how things could get really fucked up really fast tho
Well I'm currently seeing one, and we've been together for almost a year now, it's fine for the most part, but every once in a while, she gets paranoid and needs to be reassured i'm not cheating on her... something about dancers thinking their guy is gonna run off when they head out of town for a couple days.
Over all it's ok, not something I plan to do again if/when this doesn't work out.. As advice to others, just fuck the strippers, don't date them
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14558844 - 06/04/11 04:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i do it and get served.. fat guys licking my ass creeps me out a bit.. butt they tip big...
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: AntiEverything]
#14558857 - 06/04/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry, I wasn't thinking that all cons/scams aren't illegal, however, a lot of them are. I still don't understand why you brought up scam/con artists in this thread, but whatever. Strippers aren't con artists. (Unless you go into a strip club, and they don't strip?..when does this happen?) Whatever, not going to argue anymore, I'm going to bed.
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14558866 - 06/04/11 04:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow, you must trust her a lot. No way could I be with a girl that was constantly grinding up against other men
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: propensity]
#14558961 - 06/04/11 05:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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propensity said: Not really no
I don't think prostitution is immoral either.
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: skatealex2]
#14558969 - 06/04/11 06:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you can easily make 100s/1000s dollars stripping at a strip club
If I could I absolutely would, but I'd get beer bottles thrown at me to clear the stage 
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Re: Do you think theres anything wrng w/stripping to make $$$$? [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14558973 - 06/04/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: wow, you must trust her a lot. No way could I be with a girl that was constantly grinding up against other men
Work is work, if you're a decent guy, a stripper will worship you! I have nothing to worry about
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