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Burglar-proof air conditioning unit?
    #14550869 - 06/02/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Several months ago my house was broken into -literally. Someone broke in through the back window and stole only my weed and my favorite bowl. (Left the laptop, cameras, phones, jewelry I assume bc then we could call the police. Smart cookie.)

My husband and I would like to put an air conditioner in one of the windows because for the price of running central air where we are we could instead purchase a ferrari. I'm just worried that somebody could easily knock the thing out of the window and have at my house again.

Anyone know of a way to sort of... burglar-proof a window unit?
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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14550883 - 06/02/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

every time i've been robbed it's through the ac in the window...I solved this b a ventable stand alone unit ducted out the window... only close option. but i was up to nefarious activity so... people were gunnin for me. but that was years ago. crooks are still crooks tho.

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14550891 - 06/02/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

useally you have to open the window a little to get the ac unit to come out, perhaps you could put like a wood pole ontop of the window to push against the top of the window frame when the window is lifted.

It was most likely some one you know, that knows you smoke... look in peoples eyes when they talk to you.

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Don Juan]
    #14550995 - 06/02/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We know exactly who it was, actually, and you're right.

My husband smoked with a neighbor who's got MS because we feel bad for him. He's in a wheelchair now and as far as we know will do any drug thrown under his nose since he's not got very long. Now his brother that lives with him on the other hand, is a known tweaker/felon/crook, and apparently went and bragged about the break-in to this kid down the street who cuts my grass.

Shitty.

I don't think that placing a shim between the top of the window and the bottom of the glass pane would work-- the lip where you would flace your fingers to lift the glass up is too narrow.

The standalone unit w/ outdoor venting isn't a horrible idea, except the units would be in our master bedroom and living room; how the hell am I supposed to vent it outside? Cut a hole in the wall like the dryer's vent?


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14551212 - 06/02/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no.... you vent it out a window that has the safety sliding locks on the top. i'll try and find a pic. i sold it... it worked great. it vented through a 4 inch open window that was locked in place. unless that motherfucker just breaks the window then ur good. looking for pic now.

aha!

http://www.air--conditioning.net/tag/standalone-air-conditioner-images/

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: joshisstoned]
    #14551227 - 06/02/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: joshisstoned]
    #14551268 - 06/02/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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even better pic!

http://www.portableairconditionerratings.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/cheap.jpg





This is an amazing idea, thanks!

I've always wondered how to rig up something like this, but I guess my brain just isn't wired for it. I'll have to show this to my husband and see if he gets any ideas.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14551374 - 06/02/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no prob. but yeah... if ou've got newer windows look at the windowpane on the upper part of the window and see if there are safety slide locks. they'll allow the window to open about 4 inches or so and then stop it. or you could ust screw the window in place with screws so it can only be closed... not opened. problem solved... unless they break and enter and the only way to stop that is a mean dog, which, by the way is your best bet. keep the dog away from everyone except you and your husband(and kids). it should despise everyone else. a pit-bull terrier worked for me. could ust as easily get a rot or doberman, or an akita, i heard theyre nothin to fuck with. the dog is where its at. theyve been bred for it!

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: joshisstoned]
    #14551420 - 06/02/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have a pitbull, actually. He's stationed right outside the window that the dude came in from.
We won't talk about it.

Sadly, now that you mention it I realize that we don't have the safety slide windows.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14552384 - 06/02/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the stand alones are energy hogs compared to window shakers and still you need to crack the window. The thing it a lot noisier as the compressor and everything is in the room with you.  Best bet is to instal a window unit through the wall like at a hotel. They sell the sleeves to do it and if a semi handy person is around it can be done easily. I would do a window unit over a standalone unless I was a deaf old lady or needed to rig it up to cool a grow room.

If you do get a stand alone unit get a 2 hose model and it should save the amount you pay extra for it in energy over a single hose model that takes inside air and blast it outside.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14554339 - 06/03/11 05:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

> This is an amazing idea, thanks!

I used to have a portable AC unit much like the one in the picture and they suck. 

In a normal AC (or a window mounted AC), the heat transfer occurs outside.  Warm outside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented into the environment.  With the portable AC unit, cold inside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented outside.  You waste a ton of energy to cool down air, just to vent it to the outside.  Not only that, but you are constantly pulling in hot air from outside (through cracks, under doors, etc) to replace the cold air that was just vented.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Seuss]
    #14556048 - 06/03/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ah, thanks for shining some light on this, Seuss. I was trying to figure out if this was an efficient alternative. This has proven to be a bit perplexing.

...still have no idea how to accomplish this, or if it's even possible.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Seuss]
    #14556530 - 06/03/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> This is an amazing idea, thanks!

I used to have a portable AC unit much like the one in the picture and they suck. 

In a normal AC (or a window mounted AC), the heat transfer occurs outside.  Warm outside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented into the environment.  With the portable AC unit, cold inside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented outside.  You waste a ton of energy to cool down air, just to vent it to the outside.  Not only that, but you are constantly pulling in hot air from outside (through cracks, under doors, etc) to replace the cold air that was just vented.




the two hose model eliminates some of the problem bringing outside air in to coll the condenser but they are still piles of shit. You will still need to have a window partway open like that and the little flimsy plate the AC comes with will be way easy to remove compared to a full window unit with wood block preventing the windows from moving.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: al.ly]
    #14557437 - 06/03/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

easiest way to keep them from removing it and coming in the window, simply
screw the steel portion of the AC unit to the window sash, then drill a small
hole near the top of the lower sash and half way into the next one, stick a
nail in the hole and it will pin the two windows together so that they cant
slide up or down and when removing the unit, just pull the nail out and close
the window... the hole should be just a little larger than the nail

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Seuss]
    #14557490 - 06/03/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> This is an amazing idea, thanks!

I used to have a portable AC unit much like the one in the picture and they suck. 

In a normal AC (or a window mounted AC), the heat transfer occurs outside.  Warm outside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented into the environment.  With the portable AC unit, cold inside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented outside.  You waste a ton of energy to cool down air, just to vent it to the outside.  Not only that, but you are constantly pulling in hot air from outside (through cracks, under doors, etc) to replace the cold air that was just vented.





most window units and even central units have refrigerant doing the heat
exchange, the condenser being on the outside of the house or wall of the
window unit with a fan pulling air through it and the evaporator inside
with it's own blower and return recirculating the chilled air. if it's
pulling cold air from inside to vent outside it's some crazy contraption
I've never seen






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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14557508 - 06/03/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Seuss said:
> This is an amazing idea, thanks!

I used to have a portable AC unit much like the one in the picture and they suck. 

In a normal AC (or a window mounted AC), the heat transfer occurs outside.  Warm outside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented into the environment.  With the portable AC unit, cold inside air is blown over a hot coil and then vented outside.  You waste a ton of energy to cool down air, just to vent it to the outside.  Not only that, but you are constantly pulling in hot air from outside (through cracks, under doors, etc) to replace the cold air that was just vented.





most window units and even central units have refrigerant doing the heat
exchange, the condenser being on the outside of the house or wall of the
window unit with a fan pulling air through it and the evaporator inside
with it's own blower and return recirculating the chilled air. if it's
pulling cold air from inside to vent outside it's some crazy contraption
I've never seen










well you have never seen a single hose AC unit that sits inside. They suck inside air across the condenser INSIDE  then blow the heated air OUTSIDE making them shitty energy hogs.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: argg]
    #14559651 - 06/04/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

> if its pulling cold air from inside to vent outside it's some crazy contraption I've never seen

The picture from the OP shows one as described: http://www.portableairconditionerratings.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/cheap.jpg

There is a fan that pulls air through vents in the back of the unit (from inside the room) and blows over the condenser coil (located inside the machine) and then exhausts the hot air outside of the house through the duct leading to the window.  A horribly inefficient design that really doesn't work.


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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Seuss]
    #14559902 - 06/04/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

google image search shows many models that have an intake and exhaust hose

like I said, I'm not familiar with any of those portables

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14565776 - 06/05/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


problem solved

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Re: Burglar-proof air conditioning unit? [Re: P-O]
    #14566100 - 06/05/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your going about the hardware all wrong here. You need a drill of suitable power (black and decker), a hammer, screws, a 100 watt soldering iron meant stained glass and of course duct tape.

You said you know who did this... Here's what I do to the guy who breaks into my house and steals my green. I take the hammer and smack the guy upside the head till unconscious. I take the screws and screw his hands to a wooden board along with his feet the duct tape goes over his mouth and eyes then wait till he wakes up. Get the drill with a quarter inch sharp clean drill bit and bore our both his kneecaps one hole in each will do. Lastly I take a soldering iron and etch the words thief into his chest along with burning off both his nipples.

You don't even have to kill the person. Leave the board he's screwed to in a public place, or use the hammer again and unscrew him from the board and dump him (preferably live) someplace. If you were good with the hammer the first time around he doesn't know who did this and I highly doubt he will EVER be breaking into peoples houses ever again.

I've been robbed at gunpoint, once, so I'm somewhat strong willed on the consequences of those who would prey on others.

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