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Wooden Spoon
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How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant?
#14557475 - 06/03/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So if you suspected a plant that has a lot in common with other DMT containing plants that isn't mentioned on the interwebs anywhere how would you check if it did or not? do you have to be a crazy science man? or is there a quick and easy way to test bark or what ever to see if it contains DMT or other alkaloids?
Edited by Wooden Spoon (08/20/11 04:35 AM)
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon] 1
#14557484 - 06/03/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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just cut it open and get like a 10x magnifier glass. If you look real close you will see crystals and then pick them out.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: argg]
#14557550 - 06/03/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Use the force.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
#14557571 - 06/03/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like this Admiral Ackbar chap...
OP, you need to be a crazy science man, that's the only way. Sorry. Even sane science men can't detect DMT in plants.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon]
#14557601 - 06/03/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wooden Spoon said: So i was wondering how people first found out there was DMT in plants like acacias and stated extracting from them....? .
Never underestimate the ability of bored humans to sniff, snort, or plug various things into orifices.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
#14557753 - 06/03/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just ask the plant.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: ChronicSmoke]
#14558129 - 06/03/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Probably use Gas Chromatography-Mass Spectrometry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chromatography%E2%80%93mass_spectrometry
or you could just plug it and see what happens
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#14558182 - 06/03/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said: Probably use Gas Chromatography-Mass Spectrometry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chromatography%E2%80%93mass_spectrometry
or you could just plug it and see what happens 
Nothing sends you in the next dimension faster than plugging some mimosa hostilis bark.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: stepup.stepout]
#14558612 - 06/04/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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 i like your serious answers guys, thanks a bunch
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon]
#14558615 - 06/04/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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no problem happy to help
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
#14559148 - 06/04/11 08:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Admiral Ackbar said:
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Wooden Spoon said: So i was wondering how people first found out there was DMT in plants like acacias and stated extracting from them....? .
Never underestimate the ability of bored humans to sniff, snort, or plug various things into orifices.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14559337 - 06/04/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the problem is, the question is sort of vague
Do you mean how did people first discover DMT in plants? Answer is trial and error over thousands of years... 'hey, I saw OoG eat plant, do funny dance. Maybe ms eat and dance too'
Do you mean how does modern people find new plants that might have DMT it? Then that goes to your crazy science man. Once you identify a genus that has DMT, then you test likely species. I do not think it's a bunch of current stoned people taking various plants and trying to extract various chemicals....
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: HarryL]
#14559893 - 06/04/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are a bunch of other plants that produce DMT/5-MeO-DMT. The fact that MH has a higher concentration N,N-DMT makes it a more favorable plant to work with and extract DMT through it's roots.
As for how people discovered the power of DMT and other psychoactive plants; look at the animals. They know their drugs.
A lot of but plugging might have help speed up the process quite a bit as well
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon]
#14559935 - 06/04/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the question is a bit vague. Some of the earliest tribes in S. America say the forest told them.
Now a days, that is in interesting question. I am sure science is involved, we have after all stopped listening to Gaia(or aliens/extra dimensional beings).
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon]
#14560181 - 06/04/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is an incredible amount of 14-year-olds that never have seen a school from the inside on these forums.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: German Kahuna]
#14562578 - 06/04/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have an app on my iPhone called, "The Encyclopedia of Entheogenic Plants."
As for "discovering" plants with DMT in them, you need to be a crazy science man in order to do that.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: occollegeboi]
#14562878 - 06/05/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, i know how ancient people went about doing that but i meant, if i had a random tree in my backyard what would i do to check if it had DMT in it... i wasnt actuly planning on checking various plants for DMT, i was just curious if there was a simple like test for it, like drop some type of acid on the bark and if it goes a certain colour it has dmt (<- i know that sounds stupid but you get what i mean)
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon] 1
#14562947 - 06/05/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well... Google and you can find a list on wiki for what plants do
No test, least no easy test. If you want to find a new one, probably look at what plants were treated as 'medical' by the natives...why re-invent the wheel
Best way is to go to college and get a degree in chemistry, and learn analytical technics uses in O-chem
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Wooden Spoon]
#14562962 - 06/05/11 01:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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luckily people have already done the work for you. you can make an educated guess by finding out what sort of trees and plants in your area grow containing dmt. then some people take a little bit of the bark and burn it and see if it has a familiar smell. but it's fairly useless to just wander around and try random trees and see if they contain dmt, you need to know what your looking for before you go looking.
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Re: How do you tell if theres DMT in a plant? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14563043 - 06/05/11 02:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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DosileFlynn said: luckily people have already done the work for you. you can make an educated guess by finding out what sort of trees and plants in your area grow containing dmt. then some people take a little bit of the bark and burn it and see if it has a familiar smell. but it's fairly useless to just wander around and try random trees and see if they contain dmt, you need to know what your looking for before you go looking.
ooooommmmmmmmgggggggggg i dotn actuly want to do it, i just wanted to know if there was a quick test or something for educational purposes...
i was kinda wondering how people randomly thought acacias might contain DMT and how they tested for it (because if im not mistaken no acient people ever used it)
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