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GuruBushHippie said: tell me what you thinnk about economy. not "the economy today," just economy in general. IMHO it's an unecessary waste of time and effort alltogether. let me hear your voice!
i agree, it's a waste of time. apparently a lot of people still feel like the reason we are in this economic mess is because of too much money going to labor. all those minimum wagers banking on the minimum wage really ruined our country 
i mean it's almost impossible to even get a correct point through to people, if you make $200 at the end of the week, almost none of the money stays in your pocket, you spend it in a hundred different places, mainly on THE RENT. if people who make more money don't buy houses, well then yeah obviously instead of blaming the people WITH the money to buy houses, let's blame the poor people for paying them too much minimum wage. not the wall streeters bonusing themself a few extra dozen mil or so at the end of the year.
considering most people still think the economic mess is WAY more obama's fault then Bush's, it's almost useless to even try and speak of the economy. it's such a waste of time. it's every man for himself I say. make as much as you can, doing whatever, stock broking, plumbing, w/e. and don't feel bad for a single second on how much you charge, if you don't over charge, someone else will. because at the end of your day, you have to compete with a bunch of rich voters, thinking the reason for national bankruptcy is 'spending too much on labor' 
Hey man... Lets not make too much sense here.. Of course the minimum wage workers are putting the megacorps outta business!!!!!!! I don't even average $200 a week.... I can't imagine how tough it must be for people that have to do this for an actual living.
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all really good replies
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GuruBushHippie said: I just hate that i have to go to come home from washing dishes under appreciated and covered in rich people's discarded food particles.
You have to start somewhere. I started working in exactly the same position that you are in now. I've never understood hating the opportunity that one has. It only makes things worse for yourself.
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These same rich assholes think they have some right to walk in 5 minutes before closing and eat for two hours because they "know the owner." Fuck that shit. if i have to stay till all the shit is washed then i shouldnt get bitched at for having to be payed overtime b/c of some money-scribbling asswipe.
If you're getting bitched at for overtime pay, then it's your boss who is fucked up, not only for bitching at you for something which isn't your responsibility, but for not not regulating closing-time well enough.
I really don't understand characterizing the customers in any kind of bad light. They are only coming in to do business. Why is that a problem? 
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Worst part is i have a batchelor's degree in sociology and recreation management but cant find a job. this country is bullshit.
I don't know what recreation management is, but I do know that a bachelor's degree in sociology is generally only one of the first steps of education towards being able to create for oneself a career that pertains to sociology. It really isn't that the country is bullshit that this is the case. It's just reasonable that there isn't very much demand at all for a sociologist with only a bachelor's degree, since there isn't, relatively, very many positions in the first place for a sociologist, and the ones that are typically demand further higher education as a means of quality and expertise assurance. It's just the way it works. Sociologists have a place in the economy, I'm sure there's some pretty sweet niches for a sociologist to get into that can provide for them a rich and full life, but it's something that you have to strive for to make happen for yourself. You can't just jump the first hurdle and expect as many jobs as you would if you had taken a bachelor's degree in teaching, or some kind of business-related diploma.
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GuruBushHippie said: Worst part is i have a batchelor's degree in sociology and recreation management but cant find a job. this country is bullshit.
I don't know what recreation management is, but I do know that a bachelor's degree in sociology is generally only one of the first steps of education towards being able to create for oneself a career that pertains to sociology. It really isn't that the country is bullshit that this is the case. It's just reasonable that there isn't very much demand at all for a sociologist with only a bachelor's degree, since there isn't, relatively, very many positions in the first place for a sociologist, and the ones that are typically demand further higher education as a means of quality and expertise assurance. It's just the way it works. Sociologists have a place in the economy, I'm sure there's some pretty sweet niches for a sociologist to get into that can provide for them a rich and full life, but it's something that you have to strive for to make happen for yourself. You can't just jump the first hurdle and expect as many jobs as you would if you had taken a bachelor's degree in teaching, or some kind of business-related diploma. 
What a perfect response. I lolled so hard when he said "This country is bullshit" (lolololol. i'm sure its his "guidance counselors fault" for pushing him into such a dead-end degree program, right? Just like its the bankers fault for "forcing" people into these giant homes they didnt want and couldn't afford )
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i know i have to start somewhere, but ive been there for two years. I deserve at least a tip-out on busy nights. That place would run itself into the ground without me and that's the truth. If i hated the opportunithy though, i wouldnt be there. Its a sweet gig other than the fact that i do my job plus the bus boy's, plus the custodian's because my boss is a jackass and won't hire people for those positions. Recreation management is what i'm banking on for a job, im trained as a climb facilitator/caving facilitator (building anchors, running lines, counter-ascending, rapelling, and belaying), a swiftwater rescue canoe/raft/kayaking guide, a wilderness first responder, and a backcountry guide in general specializing in the northeastern portion of pisgah natl forest. There's no reason i shouldnt have a job other than the fact that there just aren't any in my area of NC. Plenty of recreation, but no jobs. I'd have to pack up and move west and i just dont have the money for it as a dishwasher. The only reason one would ever get a masters in rec management is to teach it in college. The soc part is just a fall back in case i ever need to go back to school, i personally hated sociology at my university.
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recreation management is tough spot right now. federally-funded parks and camps won't be hiring because gov't spending is being cut back in non-necessary places.
your best bet is a domestic privately-owned adventure retreate place like Ace Whitewater (in WV) that stays operational because people continue to take domestic vacations in this time of economic woes
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tell me about it dude. shit sucks, but i hear it's a lot better outside of the US so there's an option. Not to mention that rec and liesure are on the rise even though opportunities for it are declining. There's alwasy NOLS i guess...
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ideally i'd like to get into wilderness threapy and the treatment of NDD
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GuruBushHippie said: tell me about it dude. shit sucks, but i hear it's a lot better outside of the US so there's an option. Not to mention that rec and liesure are on the rise even though opportunities for it are declining. There's alwasy NOLS i guess...
i bet there are lots of places abroad where they need english-speaking guides to cater to english-speaking tourists.
pursue it. only u can make it happen. picture yourself here:
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I aim to. they couldnt keep me out of the backcountry if they tried!
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I think it's so funny that everyone blamed obama so long for ruining the economy, apparently his 'stimulus' fucked us over. fucking lemmins and sheep, people that spout off things not even factual.
we were in a down hill spiral, every bank got in on a meeting, and sold our investments to the highest bidder, tarp? anyone remember tarp? yes, that's right, bush was president when the tarp stimulus went into effect. and it wasn't a low number, it was in the high billions.
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people should quit bitching and start working.
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That was an easier thing to do prior to the 2000's. Nowadays it just seems like to have a decent paying job you gotta have an education that some folks just can't afford. Manufacturing jobs within the country are dwindling, and those remaining don't pay shit. It use to be you only needed a college degree to be a doctor, lawyer, etc... now you have to have one to do just about anything. People are trying to work man, it's just not that easy for those already unemployed.
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No, it isn't and it isn't going to get any better any time soon.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7611016.html
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In the latest sign that the economic recovery may have lost whatever modest oomph it had, more small businesses say that they are planning to shrink their payrolls than want to expand them.
That is according to a report released Tuesday by the National Federation of Independent Business, a trade group that regularly surveys its membership of small businesses across America.
The federation's report for May showed the worst hiring prospects in eight months. The finding provides a glimpse into the pessimism of the nation's small firms as they put together their budgets for the coming season, and depicts a more gloomy outlook than other recent (if equally lackluster) economic indicators because this one is forward-looking.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/15/inflation-rises-to-highest-level-in-3-years-key-manufacturing-index-goes-negative/
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Yesterday’s economic news was at best a mixed bag, with indicators all dropping, but not as much as analysts expected. Stocks rallied a bit on the news, picking up about 1% — but don’t expect that to last. Today’s news was all bad, starting with news that consumer inflation has reached a three-year high without any evidence of economic strength:
And here we have President Retard opining that ATMs are to blame:
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/06/our-president-really-truly-does-not.html
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Our President Really, Truly Does Not Understand The Economy And they complain that Sarah Palin is "stupid" and unfit to be President?
Obama recently expressed a view of the economy in which technological innovation is viewed as a threat to jobs:
President Obama explained to NBC News that the reason companies aren't hiring is not because of his policies, it's because the economy is so automated. ... "There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don't go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."
This is a perfectly static view, which would have protected jobs in the buggy whip industry by preventing the creation and expansion of the auto industry; would have protected jobs at glass tube manufacturers against the advent of flat screen televisions; would have barred the creation of the cell phone industry because of all the jobs lost in the land line business, and so on and so on.
This is your modern union mentality at work, in which the preservation of the economic status quo takes priority over innovation and creation. Job losses in old industries make for good 30-second political ads, while the creation of new and more vibrant industries which create more jobs takes too long to explain on television.
He really, truly doesn't understand. It's frightening.
The reason employers are not hiring is due in large part to fear of Obama's economic policies which raise the cost of hiring.
The man is a fucking moron and must must must go.
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Stop smoking pot, save your money, go to community college start studying something that is actually in demand like accounting or some kind of medical tech job. Get federal financial aid, its not that hard. You have to realize you live in the world, the world doesn't live in you. You can't blame society because you got a dumb fuck degree without checking job demand first. If you don't wan't to do all that at least quit your bitching. At least we don't live in mud huts and eat termites and have to worry about the next tribe over coming over and killing us all for our food. Modern society is a good thing you just have to be smart enough to seek out a niche and get training for it.
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Another thing. It wasn't since 2000. For most of the 2000s I had a hard time getting employees. Construction was hot and young people seemed not to have any interest in a career building things. They just wanted to be computer geeks.
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whats up your ass? I got the degree i got because nature is my niche just like it is for some others. I intend to pursue that. Talk to the two men I saved last summer after they rappelled off their ropes and fell 30 feet to the bottom of a gorge and ask them about my "dumb fuck" degree. They walked again because I was trained to respond. I dont credit myself, i credit my education. Sorry i dont want a dead-end job. i have one already, shit sucks. @zappaisgod, yeah man, it's tough out there and i agree, Obama is a moron.
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You go on line and say I hate the economy because you can't get a nature job. Quit bitching and look harder or go get another degree. I am sick of how soft everyone is becoming. In my opinion we have it to good people have never been this comfortable. If you are unhappy you can only blame yourself.
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