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First time 2C-E today
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as we speak. I would say I had 3 1/2th sugar cubes around 3. What should I be in for? How does it relate to/differ from the traditional psyches? I've never had a compound of the 2C family before.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: 28064212]
#14556205 - 06/03/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's what I like to hear 
The stage today is set perfectly. Work finished 4 hours early, got paycheck today, ran into old friend (who later acquired me the 2C-E shortly thereafter ), saw many small mammals, blue sky, and
I even helped a random kid who's bike got fucked up (didn't know how to put the chain back in ), I HATED when that shit would happen to my bikes back in the day when the chain would pop out and I had no clue what to do, did it for this kid in 15 seconds and bid him well.
Today will be a most peaceful day.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: 28064212]
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How many mg is on a sugarcube?
It's okay stuff. Very colorful, interesting sometimes awful body load. Lots of body temp fluctuation, at least for me. My fav part about 2c-e is definitely it's take on colors. It makes them very different in vibe than you're accustomed to, kinda pastel almost but that doesn't do it justice, hard to explain but very cool.
Pretty empty in the mindfuck department. One of the more mentally clear psychedelics I've done.
The visuals are very good though, you'll enjoy yourself.
Mixed with acid it's and then do a whippit on top of that and blast off
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How much per cube? That makes a pretty big difference. The dose response curve is fairly steep.
Also, It's almost 6PM here, so you might want to be more specific about how long ago you took them.
If it's a decent dose, you'll probably puke about an hour after dosing. A few people with iron stomachs don't get sick, but I always have. You'll probably also be extremely cold. Make sure you have a sweater and some blankets. The chills go away after you finish coming up though.
The comeup is fairly unpleasant, but the actual trip is nice. Nothing spectacular, but fun. It's more of a mixer for me. Much better with other drugs.
But you'll no doubt enjoy it.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: BothHands]
#14556214 - 06/03/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dunno, I've never had any stomach discomfort from 2c-e at all. Most I've done was like 23 mg though. Done it a few times.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: propensity]
#14556228 - 06/03/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I puke at anything over 20mg. My doses usually range from 20-40mg. Unless I take it with something else, then I generally don't take more than 10mg. Low doses have an enormous impact on other psychedelics without adding any extra body load.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: propensity]
#14556235 - 06/03/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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propensity said: I dunno, I've never had any stomach discomfort from 2c-e at all
this. of the 8 people i know personally (including myself) who have done 2c-e, only 2 have vomited.
i threw up one time, and i think that was a dose that was measured wrong because i also tripped harder than i have ever tripped on 2c-e before from that dose.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: BothHands]
#14556236 - 06/03/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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BothHands said: You'll probably also be extremely cold.
Then extremely hot a few minutes later  Sounds nice, Sunset. Sometime soon I'll be taking 100mg of MDMA with 15mg 2c-e. Enjoy the trip
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Caine]
#14556262 - 06/03/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never got hot on any of the 2C's. Just freezing fuckin shivering cold. Usually just go lay on the grass in the Florida sun though, and I warm up. Eventually I will get hot, and move to the shade, but when it's 90F outside, that's normal.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Caine]
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Then extremely hot a few minutes later  Sounds nice, Sunset. Sometime soon I'll be taking 100mg of MDMA with 15mg 2c-e. Enjoy the trip 
Yes, this.
Hot one minute, freezing cold the next.
A common theme.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: propensity]
#14556295 - 06/03/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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the biggest complaint i've heard aside from people wishing they would feel normal again is back aches.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Caine]
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Well so far I've been feeling REALLY euphoric, I'm definitely alot more talkative, fluid thinking, I'm finding a very profound bliss in the stillness of each moment (whenever I shift my vision it's as though I'm in a different place). Shit is shimmering and flickering alot, tints tones and shades are fluctuating alot, I'm feeling slight bodily discomfort in the form of slight leg cramps (but hey, I'm an LSA enthusiast, vasoconstriction or feelins like it ain't no thang)
I was told each sugar cube had 6 drops in it, my friend wasn't more specific on the MG's I just spoke to the dude and he told me around 3mgs in each dropper. I'd say I have ~40mgs of 2C-E in me at the moment? This was at 3-3:15 that I started and finishing the cubes, and time has been much akin to a fuckload of molasses right about now.
Blunt time, then forest time 
And yeah I felt a bit hot and sticky at one point and cool the next second, it's a bit annoying but it's all good.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: propensity] 1
#14556320 - 06/03/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I usually get sore muscles from any dose of psychedelic. Especially mushrooms, though.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Caine]
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Yeah, it's a function of 5-HT2A agonism. That's why many muscle relaxers (like flexeril) act as 5-HT2A antagonists.
It's also why stretching on psychedelics feels so good. Stretching releases nitric oxide, which is a muscle relaxer.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: BothHands]
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Yeah, it's a function of 5-HT2A agonism. That's why many muscle relaxers (like flexeril) act as 5-HT2A antagonists.
It's also why stretching on psychedelics feels so good. Stretching releases nitric oxide, which is a muscle relaxer.
Interesting  I am of the opinion that we need many more distinguished neuroscientists and biochemists finding out what the hell is really going on when it comes to psychedelics.
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this. of the 8 people i know personally (including myself) who have done 2c-e, only 2 have vomited.
i threw up one time, and i think that was a dose that was measured wrong because i also tripped harder than i have ever tripped on 2c-e before from that dose.
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this. of the 8 people i know personally (including myself) who have done 2c-e, only 2 have vomited.
i threw up one time, and i think that was a dose that was measured wrong because i also tripped harder than i have ever tripped on 2c-e before from that dose.
SAme here but i took 20 mg and a superbly dank e pill that come up was
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Enjoywho]
#14556395 - 06/03/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I usually have a cup of ginger tea with the capsule, and I've been fine. Seems like the 2C family is prone to extremely subjective responses by nature.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Caine]
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Caine said: I usually get sore muscles from any dose of psychedelic. Especially mushrooms, though.
Yeah, it's a function of 5-HT2A agonism. That's why many muscle relaxers (like flexeril) act as 5-HT2A antagonists.
It's also why stretching on psychedelics feels so good. Stretching releases nitric oxide, which is a muscle relaxer.
Interesting  I am of the opinion that we need many more distinguished neuroscientists and biochemists finding out what the hell is really going on when it comes to psychedelics.
Seconded. I really want to know what agonists and antagonists are in regards to receptors and what being a function of 5-HT2A even means.
I wonder how it feels to be a psychoactive molecule...
Just imagine it. How would it feel to just be a molecule, let's say you were LSD. How would it feel being absorbed into someone's system? Since the molecule isn't self aware its perceptions wouldn't be altered, but then what teh fook would be going on?
Would it experience being human?
I need to know this answer.
BothHands are you a molecule?
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2C-E is friggin' great. Strong visuals and strong head trip IME. The head trip is not so much "absent" as it is unobtrusive - you can operate through it if you wish, but if you have the comfort level necessary then you can really sink into it and do some deep-water diving. Kinda like LSD that way, and one of the reasons why I love it.
You're bound to have a good time. Happy trails.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Micawber]
#14556423 - 06/03/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You dosed 3 1/2 hours ago? Are you feeling it yet?
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yep he might be tripping
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How is social interaction? This trip'll be mostly solo but in a few minutes I may be going to meet up with this dude I ran into that was on the same bus as me who just moved into the neighborhood, gonna smoke a few blunts and chill back, he was curious as to what instrument I play since he saw me fingertapping to Deathspell Omega on the bus (T+1hour) , the conversation ended up mentioning psychedelics and he gave that hearty ol' laugh and smile of someone who is very much familiar with that headspace.
Afterwards I'll just head off into a forest park and enjoy the peak in nature.
Thanks dudes!
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You're bound to have a good time. Happy trails. 
Yeah if something random appears (like WHITE POWER GARGLED MILK FOR INSTANCE izope) it'll give me a very WTF moment where I start analyzing things to a great degree (which is what I'm loving so far, 2C-E seems to have plenty of potential as an introspective tool so far)
Also Prisoner#1 admitting that he is indeed an Ocelot Overlord slowly turning the wheels ov doom and utter enslavement as we speak is also ... I'm not so sure. That still hasn't sunk in yet.
I TRUSTED YOU PRIS WE ALL DID 
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Micawber]
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Seconded. I really want to know what agonists and antagonists are in regards to receptors and what being a function of 5-HT2A even means
I'm not sure if you're asking a literal question. Agonists turn on the receptor, and antagonists bind to the receptor and prevent it from being turned on. And inverse agonists bind to a receptor as an agonist, but cause an opposite effect.

Being a function of 5-HT2A agonism means that it is caused by turning on the receptor.
Now if you weren't asking a literal question, you're probably not going to get an answer from a sober person. 
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Social interaction is hilarious. It's just like acid (again) where you have that feeling of being displaced from and ultimately above the normal routines of social interaction. You analyze everything people say very deeply, pick apart its various possible meanings, apply them to yourself, then respond thoughtfully...
I fucking love it If you're with chill people it's great.
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Tchan909 said: Social interaction is hilarious. It's just like acid (again) where you have that feeling of being displaced from and ultimately above the normal routines of social interaction. You analyze everything people say very deeply, pick apart its various possible meanings, apply them to yourself, then respond thoughtfully...
I fucking love it If you're with chill people it's great.
dude you put how social interaction is while tripping perfectly right there.
holy shit.
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People who say the 2C-X's are basically an amphetamine-type "high" have obviously not had much experience with 2C-E, that's all I'll say.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: BothHands]
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Somebody around here the other day was actually saying that.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14490566#14490566
Beyond that (obviously) ignorant-ass newsmedia are quick to compare any new drug fad to crystal meth and cocaine, however irrelevant the comparison may be, and 2C-E is the latest victim.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: BothHands]
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2c-e is awesome. I've found that it has a "magic" dose, similar to MDMA. If you find this you're in for a pretty awesome time.
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I'm not sure if you're asking a literal question. Agonists turn on the receptor, and antagonists bind to the receptor and prevent it from being turned on. And inverse agonists bind to a receptor as an agonist, but cause an opposite effect.

Being a function of 5-HT2A agonism means that it is caused by turning on the receptor.
Now if you weren't asking a literal question, you're probably not going to get an answer from a sober person. 
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Sure, if you want me to be.
I figured that's what it meant just by knowing what antagonist and agonist, thanks for clearing that up!
Hmm... if you were a molecule...
Mescaline derivative? 
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I fucking love it If you're with chill people it's great.
I decided on not going as I didn't want to have to deal with interacting with someone completely new on a new psyche and while I seem to be handling myself fine now I'm sure things will soon change if I start hitting a blunt and quite frankly I don't want to subject the poor dude to any antics that may arise today.
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Substances behave strangely like that, I always find it difficult, even on something like MDMA, to interact with someone who does not share the experience with me. It feels like I am operating on a completely different set of brain waves, and talking to sober people is just clunky and awkward to me.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: Caine]
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Caine said: Substances behave strangely like that, I always find it difficult, even on something like MDMA, to interact with someone who does not share the experience with me. It feels like I am operating on a completely different set of brain waves, and talking to sober people is just clunky and awkward to me.
Yeeeep. Especially considering I JUST MET HIM and while I am normally very chill and laidback and get along fine with anybody I'd prefer to get to know people when I'm not busy psychoanalyzing them, their mannerisms, doing pretty much what tchan said but with the added feature of SHIMMERING GLITTERY FRACTAL PATTERNS ON HIS FACE WHILE HE'S TALKING TO ME
Tripping hard around sober people, even if they are experienced with tripping, still feels weird. I don't dig social interaction on psyches much though social interactions when they do occur do give me some insight into what kind of a person I am as I begin analyzing myself based on how I responded, what were my intentions for this response, etc. all that Freudian jazz.
Anyways I'm going to go trip away from here now and spare the Shroomery any such isms that may have arisen.
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Re: First time 2C-E today [Re: propensity]
#14556774 - 06/03/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's okay stuff. Very colorful, interesting sometimes awful body load. Lots of body temp fluctuation, at least for me. My fav part about 2c-e is definitely it's take on colors. It makes them very different in vibe than you're accustomed to, kinda pastel almost but that doesn't do it justice, hard to explain but very cool.
Pastel's a good way to put it. I always feel like I'm in an oil painting.
As for social interaction, I've always found it very easy to talk to people on 2c-e, although I think staying in on ~40mg was probably a good idea.
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