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Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf
    #14555494 - 06/03/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

God damnit.  The ineptitude of the government has finally come to affect the body I reside within.



Back in November/December either my mom or I either did or did not run a red light.  In order to contest the ticket you had to either call in or fill out the form and send it off, either way I'm positive I did that because I remember the lady telling me that all I needed to do at that point was to wait for them to send me a letter about a court date.


WELL I MUST HAVE done that correctly because they are charging me with failure to appear for the court date they'd assigned.  I've never received a letter in the mail that notified me of this court date that I remember looking at and I've been receiving Unemployment checks since the beginning of November or so.  If a letter came for me, especially from the State I would have opened it.  I've been waiting on that letter in fact.

Address problems are a non-issue.  Just a few days ago I received a letter about Jury Duty (I think they might just be trying to get me to come in to arrest me though)


So wtf is going on here?  Is this some new revenue collection tactic, did someone fuck up and not send the letter or send it to the wrong address/confuse me with another person of my same first and last name?  The chances that I GOT the letter and didn't realize it was what it is are quite low.  My mother and I are quite vigilant about the mail.









So basically I am not trying to be arrested.  Its Friday so fuck driving anywhere this weekend and FUCK going in today; they'll probably hold me for the weekend "until they get things sorted out" which means they won't start working on it until Monday.  I'm prolly just gonna shoot the shit and chill this weekend.  MAYYYYBBBBEEEEE I'll take the huge risk of driving along with someone else to go pick up this stove I need (mine broke :frown:)  but I dunno, I might not even do that.


What kind of recourse do I have here?  Can I deal with this shit over the telephone, from the safety of a semi-anonymous location or will they force me to decide between going in and being arrested (for however long they say, 1 day, 1 week, a month if they fuck shit up which isn't unheard of) and living on the run?




What's the statute of limitations look like on failure to appear lol?  This is fucking *GAY* as shit.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14555674 - 06/03/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've had warrants out for my arrest many times, all over either failure to appear on traffic violations. It is HIGHLY unlikely they will come to your house or track you down an any way.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14555708 - 06/03/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
I've had warrants out for my arrest many times, all over either failure to appear on traffic violations. It is HIGHLY unlikely they will come to your house or track you down an any way.





Could you please share how some of those warrants went?  How did you resolve the issue?  Did your license remain intact?

Any help you could offer would be great, maybe exhibiting a few stories/occasions and how each of them went down.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14555719 - 06/03/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah unless you do something illegal, they aren't going to be out actively looking for you.

only way you get busted is if you were driving, cop runs ur plates, sees you have a warrant, or you do something illegal to warrant police attention.

otherwise...fuck it, go enjoy the weekend


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14555859 - 06/03/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I would just go into (or call into) the court and try to schedule a court date ASAP. It just makes you look good; also, it'll feel better than just letting it hang over your head all weekend.

It's not a big deal though, and I'd bet a lot of money that they will NOT take you into custody.

Just dress up, get into the court, sort the BS out (explain the story to the judge), and you'll be fine.

I had something similar when I spaced on the date that my payment was due to the court (for a more serious offense: DUI) and also hadn't scheduled the stupid classes you need to take. I talked my way out of that one, so I think you can probably talk your way out of a traffic ticket. Especially since I did not have a good reason (I lied and said I couldn't afford the payments...). Whereas your reason is 100% legitimate and believable (especially when you say you've been checking your mail daily and getting regular checks from the state).

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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14555912 - 06/03/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah just call the courts and try schedule a court date to take care of it.

They don't want to house you for something so small as most jails are overcrowded.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556026 - 06/03/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Or move to a different state and never go back again :awesome:


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    #14556081 - 06/03/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

id get an attorney, in north carolina if you have a traffic warrant, the first thing they do is suspend your license. when they do run up on you-and they will sooner or later, they will arrest you and put you in jail. you will stay there until traffic court is scheduled. in alphabetical order by your last name they start calling case`s. if they get to you, they get to you- if not tuff luck.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: jacobensis]
    #14556154 - 06/03/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I had a warrant once for not paying a traffic ticket. I thought it was a warning ticket (the cop wasn't real clear) and disregarded it. Some 2 years go by and I get pulled over again for not wearing seat belt. The cop comes back and tells me I've got a warrant for not paying a ticket and that my license is now suspended. He kept my license but left me there with my vehicle. That little misadventure set me back about $500. More recently I did run a red light and got blue lighted for it. The cop was a real dick about it and actually told me he gave me the max fine. Moreover my boss got a ticket once THAT HE PAID and still got a warrant over it. They actually came looking for him and took him to jail. Turned out the cop had been a real dick about it and entered his charge TWICE. So, he had paid it and got his lawyer to prove that but he still spent a few hours in jail over it. I'm hoping the cop that pulled me for running a red light doesn't do the same...

Anyways, thought I'd share since you seemed interested in how this unfolded for others. Hope it doesn't interfere with your life too much.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556168 - 06/03/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Humility said:
God damnit.  The ineptitude of the government has finally come to affect the body I reside within.





you got a ticket, you failed to show for court and it's the government's fault


to answer a few questions you had

go down and pay the bond, it's basically the ticket price plus administration fees

they may or may not suspend your license, depends on the jurisdiction, if
they suspend it and you keep driving all it takes is to have a cop stop
you or run your ID for any reason and you go to jail. much easier to have
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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14556303 - 06/03/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pris I really don't need your government ass-kissing right now, thanks. 

You're not saying anything I need to hear.  I'm not paying anything because I contested the ticket and I never received ANY notice, let alone MULTIPLE notices for a court date.  You can send out an official piece of mail but unless it's verified that I've received it it's logically and rationally impossible to justly hold me accountable for it.

The government doesn't give a fuck about that.  They do what they want and lock people up for all kinds of injustices.  This is an injustice in progress.  I don't owe anyone SHIT for allegedly going through some red light.  They say I do and I'm willing to consent to their system to address the matter and they can't even make sure they CONTACT me before talking about ARRESTING me.

So like I said, I don't need your shit right now.  Talk that shit when it comes to something generic, not something that deals with my personal life.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: fungus_tao]
    #14556318 - 06/03/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I had a warrant once for not paying a traffic ticket. I thought it was a warning ticket (the cop wasn't real clear) and disregarded it. Some 2 years go by and I get pulled over again for not wearing seat belt. The cop comes back and tells me I've got a warrant for not paying a ticket and that my license is now suspended. He kept my license but left me there with my vehicle. That little misadventure set me back about $500. More recently I did run a red light and got blue lighted for it. The cop was a real dick about it and actually told me he gave me the max fine. Moreover my boss got a ticket once THAT HE PAID and still got a warrant over it. They actually came looking for him and took him to jail. Turned out the cop had been a real dick about it and entered his charge TWICE. So, he had paid it and got his lawyer to prove that but he still spent a few hours in jail over it. I'm hoping the cop that pulled me for running a red light doesn't do the same...

Anyways, thought I'd share since you seemed interested in how this unfolded for others. Hope it doesn't interfere with your life too much.





The shit with your Boss is what I'm talking about.  I'm *positive* that he wasn't compensated in any way for his time or the assault on his body (kidnapping) and his hours-long detention against his will.

I fucking BET he didn't even receive an apology.

There is no responsibility or accountability for when people "make mistakes" with other peoples' lives.  Instead they replace it with excuses all the while they profit from others' misery and suffering.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556343 - 06/03/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

dude you better break for canada this shits for realz.:awehigh:


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556360 - 06/03/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Pris I really don't need your government ass-kissing right now, thanks. 




I know, you need to place blame everywhere but where it belongs

Quote:

You're not saying anything I need to hear.  I'm not paying anything because I contested the ticket and I never received ANY notice, let alone MULTIPLE notices for a court date.





obviously you do need to hear what I'm saying because you arent aware that
you contest a ticket in court, you plead not guilty they then reschedule the
court date, you can file a motion that states the same thing but you still
have to go file in person at the courthouse

it's because you didnt look into this prior to the court date and didnt
follow up on anything that you're where you are now

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I don't owe anyone SHIT for allegedly going through some red light.





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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14556397 - 06/03/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

God damnit you Prisoner Number One.

I never got a letter telling me my court date.  It should have come CERTIFIED MAIL.  Simple as that.


I already said I did everything that I was supposed to do up to the point of being told "Okay sir, wait for your court date to arrive via mail".

I even told her that I'd rather leave a phone # and she said that wouldn't be possible, notifications only occur through mail.

It doesn't make sense to send only one letter and then to not send it certified mail.  Really, no matter how many letters they send, at least one should come certified mail.  You know, to make sure I RECEIVE it?


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556410 - 06/03/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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God damnit you Prisoner Number One.

I never got a letter telling me my court date.  It should have come CERTIFIED MAIL.  Simple as that.




court dates are listed on the citation


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14556417 - 06/03/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Where you come from.  They schedule dates here.  I live in a municipality and it's pretty backlogged so they wouldn't be able to issue an accurate court date the day that they send the letter out for the traffic thing.  You receive like a month or two before you have to contest/pay the ticket.  Instead the secretaries at the courthouse do all that the moment you decide to contest the ticket by calling in.

They fucked up.  I wasn't bothering anyone.

I know that's hard for you to grasp :-\.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556433 - 06/03/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

even in atlanta with backlogged courts the cops issued the date, there's a
board they see when they clock in that lists the day for court for citations
issued that day, since you're saying it was either you or your mom, that
leads me to believe it's a photo ticket in which they'd have had no problem
scheduling that date and putting it on the citation

now, if the cp isnt writing the date on the tickets and it's having to go
through the court clerks, something I've never herd of, then it's no wonder
your courts are so backlogged

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They fucked up.  I wasn't bothering anyone.




doesnt matter, you committed an offense under the law and were cited, it's
your responsibility to appear in court, it's your fault that the warrant was
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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556443 - 06/03/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I already said I did everything that I was supposed to do up to the point of being told "Okay sir, wait for your court date to arrive via mail".





Well definitely don't believe anything a cop tells you. When I got ticketed for running a red light the cop actually told me "you are summoned to appear, however you may mail in you're payment if you can not appear." Turns out this is false and probably would have cost me my license if I'd done that. I actually have to appear in court, plead, and pay the fine. I completely ran the shit out of that light. I'm guilty.

Pris is actually giving you some good advice. I see what you're saying too, and it's easy to understand how someone could be frustrated at the judicial system. However, the gov't does exist mostly to you're benefit. Traffic laws and cops that enforce them help prevent people like you and I from getting killed when we're driving.

Why are you contesting you're original charge? Did you do it?


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: fungus_tao]
    #14556465 - 06/03/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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doesnt matter, you committed an offense under the law and were cited, it's
your responsibility to appear in court, it's your fault that the warrant was
issued, not anyone elses, not the government or the post office





That's where you're wrong buddy.

It's MY responsibility to do what I think is right.  If I were a white man with a house on the Eastern shore in the South, by your own admission it would have been "MY RESPONSIBILITY" to bond any fleeing slaves I found and to notify the government IMMEDIATELY of their apprehension.

That's fucking bullshit brah.  It's my responsibility to do right and not hurt people.  This shit is all extra.




It is funny to see how your mind works though.  I can see how people in SE Asia support murdering their fellow human beings now.  Your blind obedience to the law makes you karmically responsible for all sorts of horriffic shit.

If I were you I'd really cast that aside ASAP.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: fungus_tao]
    #14556466 - 06/03/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bench warrant = no worries. Go to the court house on Monday and they will reschedule your court date. They wont take you into custody for a traffic violation/failure to appear on a traffic violation. Lol!!

Least thats how it is in Washington state.

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    #14556477 - 06/03/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

here's a sample of a traffic citation, note near the bottom it mentions a court date




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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556516 - 06/03/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

doesnt matter, you committed an offense under the law and were cited, it's
your responsibility to appear in court, it's your fault that the warrant was
issued, not anyone elses, not the government or the post office





That's where you're wrong buddy.

It's MY responsibility to do what I think is right.




so you think it's right to blow through traffic control devices with no
regard to the safety of others, you think it's right to disregard a
summons to appear in court even though your license may be suspended and a
warrant is now issues for your arrest, hell, your general views on things
is seems to me you'd object to and disregard maintaining insurance, a
license and a tag for the car as well... why follow through only halfway
on your convictions



Quote:

It's my responsibility to do right and not hurt people.  This shit is all extra.




running redlights often times leads to people getting hurt, sure they
didnt this time but there's a price to pay when you disregard these devices




Quote:

It is funny to see how your mind works though.  I can see how people in SE Asia support murdering their fellow human beings now.  Your blind obedience to the law makes you karmically responsible for all sorts of horriffic shit.

If I were you I'd really cast that aside ASAP.





my mind? you halfass your convictions, endanger the lives of others and
claim it's your responsibility to do what's right and then pull some crazy
stuff out of your ass to try and explain how my mind works which has no
relation in the real world and then tell me I'm responsible for all the
deaths in asia


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    #14556517 - 06/03/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:trollz:

Aint nothin but trollin


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556556 - 06/03/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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so you think it's right to blow through traffic control devices with no
regard to the safety of others, you think it's right to disregard a
summons to appear in court even though your license may be suspended and a
warrant is now issues for your arrest, hell, your general views on things
is seems to me you'd object to and disregard maintaining insurance, a
license and a tag for the car as well... why follow through only halfway
on your convictions





I absolutely object to the titling, registering and inspection of vehicles.  I personally have insurance but that's because I believe insurance is a good thing to have.

I would never "blow through" a red light like that.  I always look both ways and make sure nothing is coming first.  You can better believe that I'm going to go through a red where there is no camera if it's 3 in the morning and NO ONE is around, and I'll do it at 3 in the afternoon too if no one is around.  I don't need a red light to help me get around in traffic.  My eyes legs and hands work great.

Kada is right though, you have to be trolling when you say I disregarded a court summons.  It can't be anything else.


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556587 - 06/03/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

But someone else was around...


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556595 - 06/03/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm pretty sure at least 50% of the time he is just trolling to get a rise out of someone.

Either way he wins. Pris loves to win.  :hellfire:


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Humility]
    #14556625 - 06/03/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Kada is right though, you have to be trolling when you say I disregarded a court summons.  It can't be anything else.





a citation is a summons to appear in court

for some dumb reason anyone that disagrees with the anti government crowd must be trolling

but once more, let us know how the 'fuck you judge, I dont owe you a damn
thing for running a red light' defense works out of you, hopefully with all
the red light running you seem to do, you should have plenty of chance to
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    #14556683 - 06/03/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno OP.

I would gladly take Pris advice here.

He did all the work for you... Plus he knows what he's talking about.

I know you probably just want to blow some steam off, but its still good to know how that shit works if you don't want to get caught in it again


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Re: Warrant out for my arrest. Wtf [Re: Patlal]
    #14556702 - 06/03/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

the best way would be to not run a redlight just because he doesnt see a car,
I mean seriously, he's inconvenienced for 30 seconds, maybe a minute, sure
beats paying a $100 fine or spending a month in traction and serving prison
time for vehicular manslaughter because he didnt notice the bus full of kids
on his way through that red light


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