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Offlineharryboy300
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My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul
    #14554170 - 06/03/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This is just some deep though, and long talks about the Universe... It is not about aliens, so don't think that's what it is. Feel free to point out anything that bothers you, and don't be afraid to ask. I also REALLLY want to hear thoughts you have. I am addicted to learning, so please teach me....

THINK DEEP......

I have had this very big awakening recently sparked by taking LSD, and  it caused me to have deep conversations with my friends about these "aliens" Reptilians, and Pleiadians. At the time I knew pretty much NOTHING about them, but learned so much over time. Ever since then my mind has sparked with thoughts and ideas that cause most people to think i'm crazy... It goes to show, Any small minded person, will just think an open minded person is crazy. It doesn't make them stupid, they just need to open their minds first.

If you were the smartest human on earth, you'd probably only know half a % of what you could still learn.


After all this thought, i had come up with this theory...
Anything you don't see, doesn't exist
To start out, think of how they say you only use around 10% of you're brain. You have to realize that's only 10%. If you DOUBLE how smart you are now, you'd be AMAZINGLY smart... Off the charts smart. The thing is, that's only 20%. You would have to multiply you're brain strength by 10. So i believe, the 90% of the brain you don't use makes up everything around you, for you're 10% to comprehend. You're doing so many things subconsciously..

You created this universe subconsciously, and made up you're own evidence as to why you exist. You made up EVERYTHING, and literally EVERY LITTLE DETAIL. Why the grass grows up. Why there's gravity. Why there's pain, matter, balance, and anything else you can think of. You created all the history you've ever learned to make everything now make sense. You created everyone, and how they act. No one is actually real, they're all you're imagination. They're all ways you're mind is talking to you. You created the fact that I am telling you this, you're mind finally wants you're human body to realize the truth, so you created me to tell you this. I am the messenger of you're mind to speak truth. You made up all you're doubts about this. You're going to use you're own evidence (that you made up) to prove this theory wrong.. Think about it as much as you can... How would you know this isn't the truth...?

The mind comes along with the soul, and the soul is what travels and moves on. The human body is a restriction of the soul and mind
There's so many thoughts in you're head that you can't speak of with words, because of the restrictions you're human body has. A theory in this is that the human body is the stage where the soul goes through  where you learn to create you're own reality and test you're minds imagination. There are other souls somewhere, doing the same exact thing as you, except their universe is most likely COMPLETELY different. They might not even have balance, or matter, or space, or the universe, or people/beings. They could have possibly made it way more complex than yours. Maybe yours is as simple as it gets, or maybe yours is the most creative. Who knows...

The mind has 5 cameras, or projectors, it uses to project the universe for you're human body. The 5 cameras are Sight, Hearing, Smell, Taste, and Touch. Each one of these cameras sees differently in different ways.

What i said before, "Anything you don't see doesn't exist."
Look straight ahead of you and DON'T move your eyes right now. How do you know what's not in you're vision doesn't exist? You don't. You have no evidence. Well, it may not exist to you're sight, but you say it exists because you can hear it? Well, it's actually just portrayed from you're hearing sense. It exists to that sense, but it doesn't exist to you're sight sense. So back to looking straight without moving you're eyes... Do that, and then turn you're head 90 degrees left or right. Now a new part of the universe is loaded and what you were just looking at has broken down. It's no longer there. You can constantly keep moving you're head to try and catch what "Nothing" would look like, but no matter what, it won't work. The projector just keeps projecting.
It's kind of like a Camera filming a movie. It has a limit to how much it can film at once. Once you move the camera, you see a whole new area, and to the people watching the movie don't realize what is now Off screen. It just doesn't exist anymore.

Since the universe was created by you, you also created movement. You made it seem like you're walking around, but in actuality every time you move, you're actually just moving the universe around you. If you stand up from the chair you're sitting on right now, you don't actually stand up, you move the universe down to make it seem like you stand up.


There's A LOT more to it.. I constantly come up with ideas that go along with this theory. If you get this theory in you're head you would too. Maybe if you get it into you're head enough, you'll start realizing that since it's you're universe, go and bend you're reality...

I want to hear all you're theories please, any idea at all about anything. Also tell me you're thoughts on this. Don't be afraid to think outside the box.. because once you're outside the box you can start playing with whats inside..

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    #14554728 - 06/03/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: john6886]
    #14554815 - 06/03/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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john6886 said:
Humans use 100% of their brains not 10%



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and you're = YOU ARE




Both are correct. I lol'd.

You've got some serious learning to do OP.

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14554824 - 06/03/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The whole "humans use 10% of their brain" is actually referring to only 10% of the brain being active at any one time. Really though this is insignificant. Amount of brain means nothing. It's how it's used that matters. Some peoples brains are good at remembering facts, they get good grades at school and are told they're smart, but are their brains any better than than say the artistic slacker with shit grades? no. Everybody uses their brain in whatever way they like to - it's a tool.

Somebody may even have a mutation that causes them to have a eidetic memory, complete focus and major artistic talents. And yet they may end up spending their whole life on a couch smokin weed, doing shit-all and being considered by society as an "uneducated loser." In the same way a guy might have a very difficult time working with numbers, facts and shapes BUT he decides to dedicate his life to mastering these concepts and in the end everyone regards him as one of the intellectually elite.

Also, going back to the using 10% at any one time phenomenon, this isn't a limitation, in fact it's an essential part of how we can perceive our surroundings. The brain needs to be able to limit the information it works with in order to give us a manageable canvas. If we were constantly bombarded with information and our whole brain started trying to process it simultaneously and our poor frontal cortex would become overloaded and we would start shutting down. In fact that's why many autistic people close their eyes and start humming when things get too intense for them, it helps them to reduce the amount of data in their brain.

Think of it like a magnifying glass. When you hold the glass close to a page you can see the finer detail of the page, but only 10% of the total data. If you move the magnifying glass away from the page you can now see 100% of the data BUT it has become blurry, less detailed and pointless.

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: mrroboto187]
    #14554828 - 06/03/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Also, what your describing sounds similar to the 'Simulation Argument' you should check that out. Your hypothesis that what you can't see doesn't exist coincides with this, in that the machine can't simulate the entire universe all the time, so it caches everything that isn't in the direct vicinity of an observer (i.e. the next room over in your house or the opposite side of the universe).

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: mrroboto187]
    #14554916 - 06/03/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Universe is just a doily my friend, its an experiment.


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14554926 - 06/03/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As for the rest of your post OP I pretty much agree with the whole thing. The "universe" is a subjective idea created by you.

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There are other souls somewhere, doing the same exact thing as you, except their universe is most likely COMPLETELY different.




I view all consciousness as being one, all at this very moment. Each incarnation, or what you call "soul" is still the same observer just viewing itself (everything) from a different perspective.

So rather than there being a multitude of observers observing the "universe" there is simply one observer observing itself (the univsese) from many different perspectives. This effect creates the illusion of the universe.

Good post OP :thumbup:

Actually I read a rather nice story that sums it all up, on /b/ of all places:


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14554948 - 06/03/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Haha sorry guys. i wasn't paying to much attention when i was writing this out. and i didn't know the whole brain thing until now. So that's good to know before i really talked about this theory.

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Universe is just a doily my friend, its an experiment.




i've had this thought too on my first shroom trip. There's many other universes.. and they're going through the same thing. And the creator is trying to find out which universe makes it.

I've had a similar thought concept, except with earth... They say that Earth is the perfect place for a human to live, with resources and what not. But would if humans are just perfect for earth, and not earth is perfect for humans. We are a test subject from a smarter being. They created us first, and then put us on earth. They could have chose any other planet they could have built us for, but they chose earth for a certain reason.




Thenks Dawks. And that post was great. It gave me more perspective to the whole idea and open new doors in my mind. I LOVE that whole conversation post. Soo goood :thumbup:

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14554972 - 06/03/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How can you assume we are a test subject from a smarter being? Or even that there is a smarter being out there? There is absolutely no evidence to support the existence of a creation being. We could've been created by a flying mass of spaghetti or a mystical fuckin' tree. Or maybe we weren't created and we have existed and will exist for eternity. You can't prove that anything exists but yourself because everything could be a figment of your imagination.

You should take the things you learn on your trips with a grain of salt. Psychedelics don't show you the absolute truth.

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: AUX]
    #14555006 - 06/03/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A little Shine on You Crazy Diamond playing in the background and it all kind of makes sense for a little bit.

Great thread, great posts.


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: joemolloy]
    #14555013 - 06/03/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Psychedelics don't show you the absolute truth.




That's quite a powerful lesson and it's a tough one to learn.


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: joemolloy]
    #14555198 - 06/03/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

always the cynic..ha


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14555226 - 06/03/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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How can you assume we are a test subject from a smarter being?





oh well, i apologize for dreaming. I'll try not to think anymore and i'll stop having theories.

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #14555284 - 06/03/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Keep dreaming, Harryboy, I think you're brilliant and you got a good future.  Lay off the drugs for your full potential though.


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: joemolloy]
    #14556620 - 06/03/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive had various experiences on psychedelics where id be watching tv and think that the person on the tv was me. I couldnt tell the difference between other humans and myself. We all looked like one being to me.


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: AUX]
    #14558575 - 06/04/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's just a theory. Relax.

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14558579 - 06/04/11 01:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I, personally, enjoy reading these ideas.

Keep them coming, Harry ole buddy ole pal !

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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: harryboy300]
    #14558670 - 06/04/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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harryboy300 said:

You created this universe subconsciously, and made up you're own evidence as to why you exist. You made up EVERYTHING, and literally EVERY LITTLE DETAIL. Why the grass grows up. Why there's gravity. Why there's pain, matter, balance, and anything else you can think of. You created all the history you've ever learned to make everything now make sense. You created everyone, and how they act. No one is actually real, they're all you're imagination. They're all ways you're mind is talking to you. You created the fact that I am telling you this, you're mind finally wants you're human body to realize the truth, so you created me to tell you this. I am the messenger of you're mind to speak truth. You made up all you're doubts about this. You're going to use you're own evidence (that you made up) to prove this theory wrong.. Think about it as much as you can... How would you know this isn't the truth...?

The mind comes along with the soul, and the soul is what travels and moves on. The human body is a restriction of the soul and mind
There's so many thoughts in you're head that you can't speak of with words, because of the restrictions you're human body has. A theory in this is that the human body is the stage where the soul goes through  where you learn to create you're own reality and test you're minds imagination. There are other souls somewhere, doing the same exact thing as you, except their universe is most likely COMPLETELY different. They might not even have balance, or matter, or space, or the universe, or people/beings. They could have possibly made it way more complex than yours. Maybe yours is as simple as it gets, or maybe yours is the most creative. Who knows...

The mind has 5 cameras, or projectors, it uses to project the universe for you're human body. The 5 cameras are Sight, Hearing, Smell, Taste, and Touch. Each one of these cameras sees differently in different ways.

What i said before, "Anything you don't see doesn't exist."
Look straight ahead of you and DON'T move your eyes right now. How do you know what's not in you're vision doesn't exist? You don't. You have no evidence. Well, it may not exist to you're sight, but you say it exists because you can hear it? Well, it's actually just portrayed from you're hearing sense. It exists to that sense, but it doesn't exist to you're sight sense. So back to looking straight without moving you're eyes... Do that, and then turn you're head 90 degrees left or right. Now a new part of the universe is loaded and what you were just looking at has broken down. It's no longer there. You can constantly keep moving you're head to try and catch what "Nothing" would look like, but no matter what, it won't work. The projector just keeps projecting.
It's kind of like a Camera filming a movie. It has a limit to how much it can film at once. Once you move the camera, you see a whole new area, and to the people watching the movie don't realize what is now Off screen. It just doesn't exist anymore.




You actually are more correct than you might think. Quantum Mechanics is starting to prove that very fact. I go over it in my last post

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14554315


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Re: My thought on the universe, you're mind with you're soul [Re: Itssointense]
    #14560092 - 06/04/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When you say you have evidence of the past like a picture or a fossil what you have is not proof of a past but proof that there is a picture in the present. Everything is here, everything is now. The past and the future do not exist as places per say in the way you tend to think about it. The past and the future are created in the present. What you call the past is actually a simultaineously coexisting parallel reality. You are actually shifting your consciousness through billions of parallel realities a second to create the illusion of motion.What you call different moments are actually the same moment from a different point of view. There really is only one now creation moment. Everything exists NOW!
Also all of your past,present and future lives(incarnationally speaking)all exist NOW! Along side you on parallel tracks.

Everything is really ONE thing. The One is all, the all are one. I do not believe in this man-made, materialistic, dichotomy GOD. But I do know that the universe is friendly and unconditionally loving and supportive. You are so unconditionally loved and supported that you may choose to experience being unloved and unsupported. Creation doesn't care. YOu always have choice and freewill.

Remember..there is no outside! Physical reality is just a reflection of consciousness. It is just a dream. When you die it will be very much like waking from a dream. Then you will realize "Oh,this is reality" and the dream will fade and become less important but you will take from this experience what you needed as a spirit being.

At least this is the way I enjoy thinking. As I become more lucid in the dream of physical reality, I live with greater ease and contentment.
But these are just concepts, ideas I borrowed from Bashar. Once I understood the nature of the structure of existence everything became obvious. If you don't know who Bashar is I highly recommend getting to know him. His ideas have changed my feeling about life completely.

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