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gopi
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living in the moment
#14547881 - 06/01/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have just come down from a 7 hour trip. it is crazy what u wake up to! basically, I have reassured myself that tripping is in the mode of ignorance. it opens ur eyes but its completely unnecessary, and can easily leave a negative impact. another bid thing, we dont have souls. we are souls. we have a human body, at the moment.
humans are very much animals. people need to stop killing animals for money. if not, there will never be peace of mind.
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Re: living in the moment [Re: gopi]
#14547884 - 06/01/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The moment is all there is. The past is already gone, and the future is totally uncertain.
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Re: living in the moment [Re: NetDiver]
#14548543 - 06/01/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would explore these thoughts on another trip.
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There's really no tangible proof of the past, and the future is just a fake destination to keep you distracted. "Oh really, you finished middle school? Here, go to highschool, so you can have a better future. Oh done with that? Nope, sorry, the future isnt here yet, go to college to make it a good future. Oh hey there, done with college? Oh sorry, you cant be happy yet, you have to get a low level job, spending 8 hours a day chasing someone else's dream. Oh, 15 years of that? Sorry, you're not done yet. Big promotion mister hard worker, you get the corner office now! Wait wait, dont be happy yet, you havent arrived. 15 more years in this office? Oh fantastic, now you're VP, but dont be happy about it, because the work isnt done. 10 more years of that, already done? Well have you been saving for your retirement? Better put in another 5-12 years, so you can have a good future. OH you've finally retired, but you're body and mind are destroyed from the mindless stress? Well sorry, maybe next time"
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Azure Essence said: There's really no tangible proof of the past, and the future is just a fake destination to keep you distracted. "Oh really, you finished middle school? Here, go to highschool, so you can have a better future. Oh done with that? Nope, sorry, the future isnt here yet, go to college to make it a good future. Oh hey there, done with college? Oh sorry, you cant be happy yet, you have to get a low level job, spending 8 hours a day chasing someone else's dream. Oh, 15 years of that? Sorry, you're not done yet. Big promotion mister hard worker, you get the corner office now! Wait wait, dont be happy yet, you havent arrived. 15 more years in this office? Oh fantastic, now you're VP, but dont be happy about it, because the work isnt done. 10 more years of that, already done? Well have you been saving for your retirement? Better put in another 5-12 years, so you can have a good future. OH you've finally retired, but you're body and mind are destroyed from the mindless stress? Well sorry, maybe next time"
^this .. sad but true.
I don't really buy into the whole American Dream. The world where people are constantly battling for standing and won't hesitate to damage someone else to get ahead. I strive to be successful but I don't necessarily strive to be number one. I would never do a thing detrimental to someones life just to get a promotion.
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Edited by JDB (06/02/11 01:38 AM)
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Re: living in the moment [Re: gopi]
#14549117 - 06/02/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You sound look you might have tripped a little to hard and FYI we kill animals for food not money and the money it produces funds something called supply and demand. Also when was the last time someone bought a steak for example because its somehow profitable. I admire your broad thinking but you simply cannot impose a vegetarian lifestyle upon everyone. Plus to think you think you know for a matter of fact what the definition of a soul is, is honestly somewhat comical.
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the human abstract
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we kill animals for money too
but we are the absolute ruler species on this huge rock
go into a trip more positive and make a schedule, ask yourself some premeditated questions while tripping.. i dont like hectic trips but 2.5-3g with some buds is always amazing.. and having a benzodiapine available helps
remember those who plan to plan will always plan to fail
are you going to trip again?
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the human abstract
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sorry OP i dont wanna be a buzz kill
but mushrooms fuck you up
that is what mushrooms do
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Ferdinando


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soul is an idea that comes to us when we have religious experiences or epiphanies it is a very simple idea matching the simplicity of a state of being which we can attain when tripping or through meditation there is nothing in this world that I would recommend more than meditation I just got back into it again that deserves a YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY
the past is in the present in consciousness. signals overlap - that is the open secret of our existence. if there was only NOW, there would be nothing an infinitely small slice of time there would actually be no slice at least not two cut!
and eating meat supports consciousness the consciousness of animals that live only because the future seemingly wants to eat them
and no mushrooms don't fuck you up they extend what is already there which is why set and setting (which is part of your set) is important you can notice how sound, thought and everything else extends and builds on trips I suggest you keep that in mind next time
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Edited by Ferdinando (06/02/11 03:50 AM)
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Re: living in the moment [Re: Ferdinando]
#14549198 - 06/02/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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they do fuck you up
thats not something good or bad. its what you make of it
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gopi
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HowNowBrownCow said: "At the moment"- Are you implying that we experience more than one human body in a soul's lifetime? Serious question.
the soul is part, and parcel of God, the Ultimate. equal in quality, but not quantity. just like a drop of water and the ocean. therefore the soul does not have a lifetime, only material bodies in the material plane do. to answer your question, yes. when the soul incarnates into the material world, it is born and dies countless times into all different kinds of bodies (humans, germs, zebras, tigers etc.) the kind of body u receive is due to your accumulated karma from past actions, intentions and desires. ultimately the goal is to not take birth again, to stay in your original, pure soul state to worship, serve, and give love to the universe, or God, Lord Sri Krsna.
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Seriously_Spaced said: You sound look you might have tripped a little to hard and FYI we kill animals for food not money and the money it produces funds something called supply and demand. Also when was the last time someone bought a steak for example because its somehow profitable. I admire your broad thinking but you simply cannot impose a vegetarian lifestyle upon everyone. Plus to think you think you know for a matter of fact what the definition of a soul is, is honestly somewhat comical.
well, YOU eat meat to enjoy. the meat industries unnecessarily take the life from a defenseless animal to sell IT for money! imagine if there was demand for human baby flesh! i'm not saying I have full knowledge of the soul or life, but I do know I am not this human body. though, I do care after this body because it is part of Krishna and nothing should be unappreciated. I am making the best out of a bad bargain.
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gopi
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the human abstract said:
are you going to trip again?
I plan on taking .5grams or 1gram max for a show coming up to wake up my awareness of my animal state. but like u said, tripping just fucks u up. it's a way of escaping the daily routine.
after this trip I realized that saying "tripping shows u the truth" is complete bull. the truth is revealed in our sober state. people who put drugs on a pedestal instead of God are unappreciative of the potential, sober happiness and bliss of the soul, who is spread throughout the living body.
what we need to realize is what makes us happy now, and for eternity. no temporary happiness type stuff allowed.
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Azure Essence said: There's really no tangible proof of the past, and the future is just a fake destination to keep you distracted. "Oh really, you finished middle school? Here, go to highschool, so you can have a better future. Oh done with that? Nope, sorry, the future isnt here yet, go to college to make it a good future. Oh hey there, done with college? Oh sorry, you cant be happy yet, you have to get a low level job, spending 8 hours a day chasing someone else's dream. Oh, 15 years of that? Sorry, you're not done yet. Big promotion mister hard worker, you get the corner office now! Wait wait, dont be happy yet, you havent arrived. 15 more years in this office? Oh fantastic, now you're VP, but dont be happy about it, because the work isnt done. 10 more years of that, already done? Well have you been saving for your retirement? Better put in another 5-12 years, so you can have a good future. OH you've finally retired, but you're body and mind are destroyed from the mindless stress? Well sorry, maybe next time"
Haha, while I find this to be true, I don't see any harm in "playing the game" a bit.
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Re: living in the moment [Re: Cynosure]
#14553448 - 06/02/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i like to put it in computer terms
since electronic defined is something that imitates electrons
weed = defragment pain killers = updates shrooms = reformatting
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#14553841 - 06/03/11 12:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ferdinando


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where is the pudding?
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Re: living in the moment [Re: gopi]
#14553976 - 06/03/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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gopi said:
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the human abstract said:
are you going to trip again?
I plan on taking .5grams or 1gram max for a show coming up to wake up my awareness of my animal state. but like u said, tripping just fucks u up. it's a way of escaping the daily routine.
So how much did you take to go for 7 hours?
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gopi said: the soul is part, and parcel of God, the Ultimate. equal in quality, but not quantity. just like a drop of water and the ocean. therefore the soul does not have a lifetime, only material bodies in the material plane do. to answer your question, yes. when the soul incarnates into the material world, it is born and dies countless times into all different kinds of bodies (humans, germs, zebras, tigers etc.) the kind of body u receive is due to your accumulated karma from past actions, intentions and desires. ultimately the goal is to not take birth again, to stay in your original, pure soul state to worship, serve, and give love to the universe, or God, Lord Sri Krsna.
I share the same sentiments as you, except that when every time our soul returns to the physical form, it's in a human body each time - for our souls have grown/developed to be too advanced to return to a lesser being other than the human species. Just my opinion!
Lol care to tell me what makes us so superior to everything else? Personally, I can't think of anything. If ants walked on two legs and had opposable thumbs you can be damn sure they'd be building shit just like we are. In fact we destroy everything we touch, there's not a single redeeming thing to say about us.
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malaka the werewolf



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Re: living in the moment [Re: tokinman21]
#14554034 - 06/03/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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gopi
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Re: living in the moment [Re: farmer88]
#14554740 - 06/03/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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HowNowBrownCow said: I share the same sentiments as you, except that when every time our soul returns to the physical form, it's in a human body each time - for our souls have grown/developed to be too advanced to return to a lesser being other than the human species. Just my opinion!
im glad u believe in reincarnation, but what u're saying, and correct me if im wrong, sounds like u dont believe in the law of karma. having a human body is a chance to get out of the material plane since we dont just act on instinct like babies or animals. if this great opportunity is misused by wasting time and simply trying to enjoy, depending on ur intentions and actions in this life u may very well get a non-human body. I like how u mentioned that it's ur opinion. it shows u are humble and willing to hear what others say receptively.

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Lol care to tell me what makes us so superior to everything else? Personally, I can't think of anything. If ants walked on two legs and had opposable thumbs you can be damn sure they'd be building shit just like we are. In fact we destroy everything we touch, there's not a single redeeming thing to say about us.
I agree. 100%
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So how much did you take to go for 7 hours?
fasted for about 12 hours and ate about 22grams of fresh shrooms.
I think this read will interest all those in the search of "truth" http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/35234-how-should-we-relate-radha.html
this too: http://www.krishna.com/turning-beauty-krishna
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Edited by gopi (06/03/11 10:02 AM)
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