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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: spookone]
    #15758898 - 02/04/12 03:00 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Lol spookone, colourful language...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: _OttO_]
    #15759422 - 02/04/12 09:00 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

LOL, I flashed back to Brad Pitt's gypsy in the movie "Snatch".  ;0)

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: Javadog]
    #15759454 - 02/04/12 09:14 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

hahahahaha sick otto forgot about that one lol:awedancexmas::awedancexmas:

fucking nice pics u have man when do the woodchip variety fruit round springbrook dude??:bobmarley:


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: spookone]
    #15762145 - 02/04/12 09:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Lol spookone, colourful language...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

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Never seen that OttO, funny stuff, yet sadly true.......................





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fucking nice pics u have man when do the woodchip variety fruit round springbrook dude??:bobmarley:






Last year the 1st tub began fruiting at the end of May.

We get a sudden drop in temperature round that time of year.

Subaeruginosa are not from this area, they grow 400km away in the south west of the state.


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #15762254 - 02/04/12 09:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Love that doco Olive, have seen it more times than I can count. I have a copy of it on VHS, and now an electronic one thanks to youtube. Have spoken a bit to the producers over the years as well, it's inspiritaional work and so funny....


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: _OttO_] * 1
    #15765756 - 02/05/12 07:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Love that doco Olive, have seen it more times than I can count. I have a copy of it on VHS, and now an electronic one thanks to youtube. Have spoken a bit to the producers over the years as well, it's inspiritaional work and so funny....






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Alrighty heres an update on the beds and tubs:biggrin::hatsoff:

   

A few pics of the surrounds to set the scene of how dry and hot it is here.
Have been feeding some ones donkeys in the paddock behind my block.:goat:




The majority of the tubs and beds have grown and grown well, the mycelium this time of year seems to be totally dormant even though the surrounding substrate is moist.
Its almost as if the myc has turned to a white flakey powder.
This would freak me out had I not seen the same thing last year, bout this time or a bit later I checked the 3 tubs I had then and decided I had failed as the myc looked dead and like powder.
A month or two later, luvly subs.:mushroomgrow:






This is the comparison bed, Pine one side Red Gum the other.
This bed was re-inoculated as the initial mycelium that was added failed to grow.:sad:
It was determined that covering the surface completely with cardboard for the first month or so probably suffocated the myc and didnt’t allow for FAE.
Time will tell if the knock back this bed experienced and the lack of colonization time will mean no fruits.:shrug:







This is the strawberry bed, this bed I’m not checking………….
It’s the only one I’m leaving to chance, I have been adding fresh myc covered cardboard though since the initial planting.







The ‘grave’…….I have a lot of faith in this bed.
When I checked it a while back it was colonizing well.
Something about gum bark and twigs that reminds me of where I find the wild specimens of subaeruginosa that I have used to colonize my garden.
The twigs and bark are from a large wandoo tree that grows next to the bed:biggrin:







The sub nursery. Before becoming a haven to shrooms it was used annually for some personal use cannabis cultivation, this hasn't changed.
As the cannabis plants fill the space, the old dope leaves should land in the tubs and act as a mulch layer, the myc may even colonize it.
I have put some myc covered woodchips in the pots of the dope plants too.:grin:






               

Most of these tubs are in the nursery and have done really well.
I am expecting big things from them.:thumbup:
3 months till hopeful fruiting time.





       

This bed i made in November, its around a number of water gardens in lge pots, when the pots are refilled every few days the water overflows into the bed, hydration:biggrin:
These are 'dyed woodchips' they appear to be some kind of soft wood thats dyed to look like hardwood for mulching gardens etc.......
I am unsure if the dye is toxic, I assume that it isn't as little kids and animals prob eat garden mulch in their wanderings and it wouldn't be to flash to poison them.:sad:
Either way I dont think I'll be eating any mushrooms from these 'red chips' until I find out for sure.
However the subaeruginosa mycellium loooooooves these chips, very fast to colonize and the white of the myc is a luvly contrast on the 'red' of the chip:biggrin:






 

One of two of the logs in tubs in the ‘nursery’.
These should look quite snazzy if they work.
I doubt though if the actual wood of the logs has been colonized as its been less that 12 months and the logs were still green when I made the tubs.






     

These containers live in a small shade house.
They have a soil base and shaved Pine topping, they have colonized very well and are also homes to very happy slugs that will be relocated before fruiting:evil:






The tub that fruited the best last year I ‘disturbed’ a few weeks before fruiting.
I had basically decided all the myc was dead, I thought if I went through 1 of the tubs thoroughly looking for signs of life and myc growth then I would know for sure.
2-3 weeks later it fruited well, the other two tubs that I didnt disturb, a few aborts was all they had.
In mid April I plan to ‘stir’ up half of each tub, this will then demonstrate if disturbing the mycelium a few weeks before fruiting increase the quantity or probability of fruits etc….
I plan also to ‘case’ a section of every tub also to demonstrate if topping will increase pinning and fruiting.


The whole dormant thing gives me hope that the myc would survive unaided throughout the 4 month summer, bush patches etc…………
I have taken note this summer of the areas that stay ‘green’ around the local vicinity. These areas of wasteland and bush could prove a likely home to subaeruginosa if the myc can live through the summer without regular water. I have been to the patch where I got the original mushrooms from in summer and it was dry as a bone, though they have cooler temps and a higher rainfall, its 4 hours drive from where I am.


When and if all these tubs fruit I will post a complete run down on which substrates worked and which fruited the most and which didn't.


3ish months till fruiting time, it will depend on when the sudden drop in temperature occurs this year. 


Whether 1, none, or all of my efforts fruit, I have learned big mobs about growing and keeping myc alive and also what this type likes to eat.
I think understand just a little more about whats going on with this organism.



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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #15765895 - 02/05/12 08:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

shittttcheaaaaa olivecunt thats a fucking great effort you've gone through there and a bloody good one too! seriously fuck yehh thats dope!:billymaythumbup: :idhitit:


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: spookone]
    #15768482 - 02/06/12 02:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Nice projects mate! wish i had time/room for that!

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #15906625 - 03/05/12 10:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I have taken note this summer of the areas that stay ‘green’ around the local vicinity. These areas of wasteland and bush could prove a likely home to subaeruginosa if the myc can live through the summer without regular water.




I'm doing the same but im much closer to the magic WA town.
There is some primo areas that stay green even when it's 40 degrees.
As i live in a rural area a good spot is next to dams that are close to fence lines. Dam walls leach a certain amount of water and the areas next to them stay very moist with thick long grass. As the dams are near the roadside there are also moist drainage ditches.

Once i get some material i'd be interested in shoving colonised chips into hessian sacks (ala Stamets Mycelium Running book) and then living them where water might flow in winter. The aim is to get the bags to break up and wash chips and mycelium bits all through the ditches. Subs love ditches.

I had some melbourne/victorian sub chips sent to me and they are much more aggressive and rhizomorphic than the WA subs. More potent and, from people who've compared both, the Vix subs can survive in more varied areas and survive more temp fluctuations.

Pure Melb sub has been isolated into a pure LC. Going to grains as we speak....


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: greencavefloat]
    #15908888 - 03/06/12 12:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

A fantastic informative post olive, look forward to developments.:goodluck:

And some insightful info from others too, I'm intrigued as to the massive difference in subaeruginosa across Australasia. I managed to acquire a Tasmanian sub spore print a while back but even the guy who sent me that spoke of an entirely different looking and super-potent version up the hills (wish had that one but beggars can't be choosers :wink:).

The myc I have running seems a little slow compared to other species around it but have just used a beech hardwood like them which may not be it's substrate of choice.



^He said looked like this nearby one and was "growing from the soil which also had a lot of rotting wood and eucalyptist leaves".



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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: UK Explorer]
    #15909241 - 03/06/12 02:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"an entirely different looking and super-potent version up the hills"

Ah yes, all the good stuff happens up "in the hills".  ;0)

Veeery interesting stuff.

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: Javadog]
    #15912320 - 03/07/12 01:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I have taken note this summer of the areas that stay ‘green’ around the local vicinity. These areas of wasteland and bush could prove a likely home to subaeruginosa if the myc can live through the summer without regular water.




I'm doing the same but im much closer to the magic WA town.
There is some primo areas that stay green even when it's 40 degrees.
As i live in a rural area a good spot is next to dams that are close to fence lines. Dam walls leach a certain amount of water and the areas next to them stay very moist with thick long grass. As the dams are near the roadside there are also moist drainage ditches.

Once i get some material i'd be interested in shoving colonised chips into hessian sacks (ala Stamets Mycelium Running book) and then living them where water might flow in winter. The aim is to get the bags to break up and wash chips and mycelium bits all through the ditches. Subs love ditches.

I had some melbourne/victorian sub chips sent to me and they are much more aggressive and rhizomorphic than the WA subs. More potent and, from people who've compared both, the Vix subs can survive in more varied areas and survive more temp fluctuations.

Pure Melb sub has been isolated into a pure LC. Going to grains as we speak....








Wow man, alot of good info there:biggrin:

Hope that you myc does real well, are you planning on putting those grains on cardboard then woodchips etc?
I had some success with sub LC directly on chips.







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A fantastic informative post olive, look forward to developments.:goodluck:

And some insightful info from others too, I'm intrigued as to the massive difference in subaeruginosa across Australasia. I managed to acquire a Tasmanian sub spore print a while back but even the guy who sent me that spoke of an entirely different looking and super-potent version up the hills (wish had that one but beggars can't be choosers :wink:).

The myc I have running seems a little slow compared to other species around it but have just used a beech hardwood like them which may not be it's substrate of choice.



^He said looked like this nearby one and was "growing from the soil which also had a lot of rotting wood and eucalyptist leaves".



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Thats an evil lookin sub UK Explorer, and that myc tub is superb!!!!
Are you going to case it? or spread it round?

I too am intrigued at the multitude of different looking subaeruginosa.

Within the couple of kilometers that I hunt their are distinctly different looking subs.
I often wonder is it environmental conditions, soil acidity etc that make them look different?





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"an entirely different looking and super-potent version up the hills"

Ah yes, all the good stuff happens up "in the hills".  ;0)

Veeery interesting stuff.

JD






Hey Javadog, the  'up the  hills'  is interesting, were i go, the ones up the hill arnt as potent as the ones in the gully:biggrin:
Up the hill they also have wavy caps.







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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #15915955 - 03/07/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

From my observations, subs don't need to stay moist all year long - only if you want them to spread faster.

They do most of their mycelial netweork spreading during the warm moist parts of spring and autumn, and the dry part of summer the mycelium simply goes dormant - it still comes back to life the next time it gets wet again....


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    #15920936 - 03/08/12 05:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Olive I plan to expand the above tub until have enough spawn to make an outdoor bed (standard woodlover tek style), which I will then add fresh substrate to hopefully establishing a mother patch this side of the planet that I can utilise to further spread the subs here be it from spores or mycelium/stem butts etc :thumbup:


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    #15921877 - 03/08/12 08:36 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Impressive as always olive! :thumbup:

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #15961634 - 03/17/12 10:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Hope that you myc does real well, are you planning on putting those grains on cardboard then woodchips etc?
I had some success with sub LC directly on chips.
^My myc




The LC proved to be dirty. The LC looked very clean though. Sadly there was green mould hiding (on the myc i'd say).
Anyway i sucked up some healthy looking myc and squirted it onto agar. I'll clean it up and try again using both LC and agar wedge.

For some reason if i scrape some myc onto agar straight from wood it doesn't grow at all. If i scrape it into LC then i get good growth. Then i go from LC to agar where the myc becomes fluffy again.
I'm still working on it but i think i'll eventually get it clean.
Even dirty LC is a good way to quickly expand your myc so you don't have to keep disturbing the colonised chips

I had 3 jars that got green mould contam in them. Even though the sub myc was outnumbered there was still some little bits of white healthy myc in there. I buried my grains in some nice mulch in the garden.
The beds get watered every night by a reticulation system.

Anyway i dug up a little bit and the myc is actually growing and the green mould seems to be giving up the fight. Obviously not ideal situation but i think a sub or two will grow there.


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: greencavefloat]
    #16248586 - 05/18/12 02:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

First fruit of 2012………………..



       



               




Went for a gander at my tubs/beds this morning and looky here the first luvly sub of 2012. :fonda:


It’s growing in a mix of crushed pinecones (radiata) and soil.
This particular tub is 10 months old


I’m am very happy  :bender:  :feelsshroomyman:


It’s been getting colder for a few weeks now, I have been watering the tubs and beds to keep them moist as is still quite dry here.


Hope this is the start of many more mushrooms to come up in the tubs and beds that I have lovingly tended for the past year.


Am also looking forward to seeing if/and what media the subs perform the best in, if any……..


I’ll be maintaining the moisture level and encouraging colder weather.


I'll post more pics as she grows :mushroomgrow:





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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #16249239 - 05/18/12 09:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Congrats Olive!

Let the data start rolling in.

How did the Wandoo logs doo?  lol....I still love that name.  :0)

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa [Re: olive]
    #16249245 - 05/18/12 09:15 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Been watching this one for a while man, so good to see an update!!!
I'm sure you'll have plenty more fruits in the coming weeks.
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    #16282075 - 05/25/12 04:24 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The first pin was developing nicely:biggrin:, when…………..


     

along came a lousy slug and had a chomp of it.  :goat::thumbdown:
That morning I spread ample slug pellets around but not in the tubs.:grin:





Over the next 2 das the cap opened:thumbup::fonda:


     






Then……….. the fukin slugz stuck again.:thumbdown::frown::sad:
This time decimating the cap.:sad::sad::sad:


   


Was going to print this fruit, but now I’ll leave it to drop what spores it has left.
Since then more slug control has taken place!!:billymaythumbup:







Meanwhile in another tub…………….:discorex:


   
   




and on the other side of the tub.:bender:


       


These pins are under a plantain that is growing in the tub with the myc.
Heaps of plantain grow in one of the spots that I pick wild subs from.
I bought this one back as a baby and planted it in the tub to see if the plantain has any thing to do with the subs fruiting etc…. like a symbiotic relationship.
Have a similar tub with a thistle in it.:thumbup:

Think now (and this'll be obvious to some) that the plant aids in providing humus for the mycelium, shade and added moisture for the pins.

This tub is a mixture of substrates, Hard and soft woods - leftovers from making the other tubs.:biggrin:






So the pins under the plant inspired me to ‘case’ some of the other tubs with some  deciduous leaves in the hope that this will aid in moisture buildup etc….. and that pins will sprout in abundance from the cased areas in the tubs.:thumbup::smile:







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Congrats Olive!

Let the data start rolling in.

How did the Wandoo logs doo?  lol....I still love that name.  :0)

JD






Hey JD,  The Wandoo logs are primed and waiting............ The redgum chips in and around the logs have colonised well.:thumbup::biggrin:



   




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Been watching this one for a while man, so good to see an update!!!
I'm sure you'll have plenty more fruits in the coming weeks.
Looking forward to it, best of luck mate! :mushroom2:






Thanks man, it's very exciting!!:aweyeah:




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