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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14553985 - 06/03/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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a christain believes in the father, son and spirit

what is spiritual?




I thought that was called a "Trinitarian"

The Trinity isn't mentioned anywhere in the bible, nor even hinted at before the new testament.

you're telling me you can't be christian without being Trinitarain?


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1. relating to the spirit or soul and not to physical nature or matter; intangible/quote]


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14553988 - 06/03/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I thought you said "real science" had been dead for 4000 years... this is a very confusing conversation.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14553990 - 06/03/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

awful statement :nonono:


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Shins]
    #14553994 - 06/03/11 01:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Shins said:
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the human abstract said:
a christain believes in the father, son and spirit

what is spiritual?




I thought that was called a "Trinitarian"

The Trinity isn't mentioned anywhere in the bible, nor even hinted at before the new testament.

you're telling me you can't be christian without being Trinitarain?





The New Testament itself is pretty clear about the trinity though, and that's the basis of Christian belief as it survives today. The Old Testament is like garnish for them.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14553996 - 06/03/11 01:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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awful statement :nonono:



:zomgwtf:


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Shins]
    #14554002 - 06/03/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

im not tryingg to win here shins.. christains are usually christains for the community not for themselves

thats why i see it as positive not some occult shit that always gets posted on shroomery.

organized religion being evil should be talked about in the conspiracy forum..


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14554006 - 06/03/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14554020 - 06/03/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

A lot of people on the Shroomery have a kind of atheism-vision where they are incapable of noticing anything good about any form of religious expression and incapable of noticing anything bad about any practice of atheism (in spite of atheist organizations being responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions of people last century alone).

Like most fundamentalist belief systems in practice, antitheism is a form of bigotry.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14554027 - 06/03/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

that was a great post.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #14554028 - 06/03/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, most Atheists i know are just butt hurt about their overbearing "christian" parents.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Shins]
    #14554031 - 06/03/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:ilold:


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14554033 - 06/03/11 01:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

im not gay i just have problems expressing myself differently in the proper way


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Shins]
    #14554038 - 06/03/11 01:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, most Atheists i know are just butt hurt about their overbearing "christian" parents.




The ironic part is that they usually inherit the qualities and attitudes that caused their parents to be overbearing in the first place. This is not really about religion.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14554126 - 06/03/11 02:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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A lot of people on the Shroomery have a kind of atheism-vision where they are incapable of noticing anything good about any form of religious expression and incapable of noticing anything bad about any practice of atheism (in spite of atheist organizations being responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions of people last century alone).

Like most fundamentalist belief systems in practice, antitheism is a form of bigotry.




If you are referring to communism as the destructive atheist entity, I would say that the State serves the function of God, and that because there is a central figure you must be devout to, there is not atheism in practice. Since the state replaces God as the object of worship, therefore I think it is theism where God merely has a different face. A true atheist is as skeptical about his country as a God. Communism and Theism both rely on faith in a higher entity. In this case, the state.


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #14554179 - 06/03/11 03:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:gayfish:


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14554225 - 06/03/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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organized religion being evil should be talked about in the conspiracy forum..




There are thousands of people dying of aids because of the catholic church's stance on condoms. Stem cell research which could have helped a lot of people with various illnesses have been held back by religious zealots. The catholic church have covered up the rape of children. Wars are being fought because the followers of one holy book doesn't agree with the followers of another holy book. Children have their genitals mutilated. Etc etc etc..
Organized religion is the very definition of evil.

"Without religion a good man may do good things, and a bad man may do evil things. But for a good man to do evil things you need religion."


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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Shins]
    #14554231 - 06/03/11 04:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, most Atheists i know are just butt hurt about their overbearing "christian" parents.



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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14554251 - 06/03/11 04:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, most Atheists i know are just butt hurt about their overbearing "christian" parents.



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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #14554260 - 06/03/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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fuck organized religions and become a spiritual being




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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #14555476 - 06/03/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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A lot of people on the Shroomery have a kind of atheism-vision where they are incapable of noticing anything good about any form of religious expression and incapable of noticing anything bad about any practice of atheism (in spite of atheist organizations being responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions of people last century alone).

Like most fundamentalist belief systems in practice, antitheism is a form of bigotry.




If you are referring to communism as the destructive atheist entity, I would say that the State serves the function of God, and that because there is a central figure you must be devout to, there is not atheism in practice. Since the state replaces God as the object of worship, therefore I think it is theism where God merely has a different face. A true atheist is as skeptical about his country as a God. Communism and Theism both rely on faith in a higher entity. In this case, the state.




This is very easy to say when you're living in a country that provides for freedom of information and freedom of speech, but totally moot when you live under Godless Communism. You're a dirt farmer and the state has an army. Where's your skepticism now? Get in line.

I realize I'm adopting a fairly extreme argument right here, but I'd also like to add that I'm not referring only to communism; I'm also referring to other programs such as national socialism, which were nominally religious but had atheistic leadership and were not accountable to any religious community. Saddam Hussein's government offers a handy microcosmic example of how the moral compunctions of a state vanish soon after the collapse of its religious authority, leading almost immediately to genocide and mass murder.

I'm not suggesting that atheism contributes to personal degradation or a decay of morals in the individual. I know far too many good-hearted atheists and rotten-hearted Christians to believe that kind of bull. However, from an institutional, societal perspective, the correlation seems a bit stronger.

As a final aside, it probably stings to hear this, but we have radical Christians to thank for our freedom to reject the existence of God. :shrug:


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