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android313
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Anyone Religious Here?
#14553147 - 06/02/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm agnostic and a lost soul I think. I'd really like to join a religion. I was confirmed a Catholic but I've lost faith over the years as I think the country has become somewhat out of touch with the actual religion. All "Catholics" and some Christians are having pre-marital sex, getting drunk, gambling, and really just not following the religion. I mean, Jesus Christ is still one of the biggest influences in my life, and I try to live as best I can according to him, but I just can't follow that religion anymore.
Does anyone have any tips? Should I talk to a priest?
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: android313] 1
#14553154 - 06/02/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fuck organized religions and become a spiritual being
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: android313]
#14553171 - 06/02/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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android313 said: I'm agnostic and a lost soul I think. I'd really like to join a religion. I was confirmed a Catholic but I've lost faith over the years as I think the country has become somewhat out of touch with the actual religion. All "Catholics" and some Christians are having pre-marital sex, getting drunk, gambling, and really just not following the religion. I mean, Jesus Christ is still one of the biggest influences in my life, and I try to live as best I can according to him, but I just can't follow that religion anymore.
Does anyone have any tips? Should I talk to a priest?
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: android313]
#14553174 - 06/02/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try Scientology
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android313
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: twighead]
#14553204 - 06/02/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I will attend Mass this Sunday and see if it helps. I don't know. I'm just going through one of those confusing times in my life right now.
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Sci-Fi
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: android313]
#14553216 - 06/02/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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android313 said: I think I will attend Mass this Sunday and see if it helps.
if it helps what?
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sci-Fi]
#14553231 - 06/02/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am at peace after finding dudism and pastafarinism. They make sense to me and the charts with pirate ratios to global warming really sold me.
I can't help but doubt any religion that tells me bad things will happen to me if I don't give them money or pray to some wizard.
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Sci-Fi]
#14553258 - 06/02/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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religion is all what you make it..
healthy personal life needs faith.. thought and reality are tangled up
if religion is evil do you think people would find salvation in it?
only the people without faith.
personally i think religion is beautiful but equally is thought
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said: fuck organized religions and become a spiritual being
THIS.
I went through this, sort of. Alot of people frown on independent spirituality, but I like to think of it this way: Your God understands you a shit ton more than anyone else, so I'm pretty sure he'd be cool with you worshiping in a way that you find best.
There's no way any ONE religion has it right.
Man is corrupt. Until I find the original scriptures, translate them myself, AND have Jesus come down and tell me I'm doing it right, I don't trust any religion.
I tend not to worry about it too much anymore anyway.
I was never asked if I wanted to be created, therefore I feel that I shouldn't have to live up to any standards or fear punishment in the afterlife. I believe that God understands this.
When I say God I usually think of the Biblical Christian God, just out of habit, but God is different to each of us.
And it helps that I because of those reasons, I don't believe in hell. Shit, if He Loves me half as much as my family does, there's no way he'd let me suffer for eternity.
Punishment is a leash created by man to chain others down.
The "good" fear just as much as anyone, so they try to bring everyone to their level.
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: twighead]
#14553266 - 06/02/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am a gnostic Christian (not to be confused with agnostic). It is the original version of Jesus' teachings. Much of its scripture was discovered in 1940's in Nag Hammadi, Egypt and dates before mark, matthew, luke, and john. It makes much more sense of the world, Jesus, God, and the purpose of life because it is closer to the truth.
I would recommend reading Ptolomy's Letter to Flora, The Gospel of Thomas, and Thunder Perfect Mind. They give the best sense of what the gnostics believed. Gnosticism means "knowledge through experience", which is different that factual knowledge. I may know your name, your address, what school you go to, etc... but until I have walked and talked and experienced you I do not really know you. Gnostics believe that you have to experience Jesus, such as helping others and being kind to all you meet, to experience suffering in life as Jesus did. Otherwise you only call yourself a follower of Jesus.
Lots of core beliefs are different from conventional Christianity such as there is no firey Hell, but rather Hell is on earth, and ppl are reincarnated into new bodies that are fitting for their actions in the previous life (karma). Unless the person finds Jesus they cannot break the cycle of death. But gnostics also believe that every soul will eventually find a life that is helped along to a knowledge of Jesus.
I'll answer any questions you may have about it all.
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#14553267 - 06/02/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i am a devout pastafarian.
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Shroom_i
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argg said: I can't help but doubt any religion that tells me bad things will happen to me if I don't give them money or pray to some wizard.
Holy shit, that's so fucked up, but I had to laugh.
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the human abstract said: religion is all what you make it..
healthy personal life needs faith.. thought and reality are tangled up
if religion is evil do you think people would find salvation in it?
only the people without faith.
personally i think religion is beautiful but equally is thought 
Faith and religion are two completely different concepts.
I have oodles of faith, but religion, I have little.
I have my BELIEFS. I have FAITH in those BELIEFS. I encourage others to THINK and FEEL as they wish. If that happens to be like me, or inspired by me, I'm humbled by it.
But I would never, ever try to start a group based off of it.
Religion, like everything else, is an excuse for prejudice and war.
I don't give a fuck what you believe, and I don't think you should give a fuck what I believe. I won't judge anyone by it, so how dare they judge me?
In some aspects it is beautiful, but always remember that it can be as ugly as anything else aswell.
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Buckeye Oysters said: I am a gnostic Christian (not to be confused with agnostic). It is the original version of Jesus' teachings. Much of its scripture was discovered in 1940's in Nag Hammadi, Egypt and dates before mark, matthew, luke, and john. It makes much more sense of the world, Jesus, God, and the purpose of life because it is closer to the truth.
I would recommend reading Ptolomy's Letter to Flora, The Gospel of Thomas, and Thunder Perfect Mind. They give the best sense of what the gnostics believed. Gnosticism means "knowledge through experience", which is different that factual knowledge. I may know your name, your address, what school you go to, etc... but until I have walked and talked and experienced you I do not really know you. Gnostics believe that you have to experience Jesus, such as helping others and being kind to all you meet, to experience suffering in life as Jesus did. Otherwise you only call yourself a follower of Jesus.
Lots of core beliefs are different from conventional Christianity such as there is no firey Hell, but rather Hell is on earth, and ppl are reincarnated into new bodies that are fitting for their actions in the previous life (karma). Unless the person finds Jesus they cannot break the cycle of death. But gnostics also believe that every soul will eventually find a life that is helped along to a knowledge of Jesus.
I'll answer any questions you may have about it all.
This sounds really interesting, and I had some thoughts about this.
I think I'm going to save those titles for a rainy day, sounds like a good read.
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Rastafarian here
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Shroom_i]
#14553356 - 06/02/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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even if you are 100% no God certain you STILL have made the choice just as much as the person that has made the choice to 100% to believe.
7 levels of belief
1.00: Strong theist. 100 percent possibility of God. In the words of C.G. Jung, 'I do not believe, I know.'
2.00: Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. De facto theist. 'I cannot know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there
3.00: Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. Technically agnostic but leaning towards theism. 'I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.'
4.00: Exactly 50 per cent. Completely impartial agnostic. 'God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.'
5.00: Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. Technically agnostic but leaning towards atheism. 'I don't know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be sceptical.'
6.00: Very low probability, but short of zero. De facto atheist. 'I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there.'
7:00: Strong atheist. 'I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung 'knows' there is one.'
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religion has no effect inherently in and of itself. you give power to it through your own personal belief system but any effects ultimately come from your own self
nothing external can give you any answers . only the self
return to your self
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Envix]
#14553405 - 06/02/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats why i worship power of thought more than anything..
its all interpretation
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Envix
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the word God or YHWH actually translates to "I AM"
and since your existence is the only thing you can know for certain exists...
breathe and speak the words I AM. that's all you need do to realize the self
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Re: Anyone Religious Here? [Re: Envix]
#14553441 - 06/02/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's the self?
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