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Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style
    #14545110 - 06/01/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I find this pretty sick...

Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style
The Miami Herald
BY FRED GRIMM
Posted on Saturday, 05.28.11


They’re children of the new Florida ethic. Zombie kids warehoused on the cheap in the state’s juvenile lock-ups. Kept quiet, manageable and addled senseless by great dollops of anti-psychotic drugs.

A relatively small percentage of young inmates pumped full of pills actually suffer from the serious psychiatric disorders that the FDA allows to be treated by these powerful drugs. But adult doses of anti-psychotic drugs have a tranquilizing effect on teenage prisoners. Prescribing anti-psychotics for so many rowdy kids may be a reckless medical practice, but in an era of budget cuts and staffing shortages, it makes for smart economics.

Florida fairly inundates juvenile offenders with this stuff.
The Palm Beach Post reported last week that the Florida Department of Juvenile Justice has been buying twice as many doses of the powerful anti-psychotic Seroquel as it does ibuprofen. As if the state anticipated more outbreaks of schizophrenia than headaches or minor muscle pain.

The Post found that Florida purchased 326,081 tablets of Seroquel, Abilify, Risperdal and other antipsychotic drugs during a two-year period for the boys and girls who occupy the 2,300 beds in state-run residential facilities. (Most of the state’s juvenile offenders are held in jails operated by for-profit contractors. Records revealing the quantity of medications that private companies pour down their prisoners’ gullets were not available.)

Such drugs, meant for adults, are known to send children into suicidal despair, along with risking heart problems, weight gain, diabetes and facial tics. Yet, the DJJ and its contract psychiatrists push them willynilly onto their young wards.

It’s not as if state officials have been unaware of the risks facing children prescribed “off label” uses (unapproved by the FDA) of these pharmaceuticals. Even as the state doled out Seroquel like candy to kids in DJJ jails, the Florida Attorney General’s office was entering into a lawsuit with 36 other states against drug manufacturer AstraZeneca for promoting dangerous, off-label uses of Seroquel for treating both the young and the elderly. (AstraZeneca agreed to settle the lawsuit in March for $68.5 million and to stop marketing the drug for unauthorized uses.)

It was as if the schizophrenics most in need of Seroquel were roaming the halls of government, not the juvenile jails.

“This is the face of all these budget cuts; what happens when you eliminate social workers and prison guards,” said Broward Public Defender Howard Finkelstein. He suspects that DJJ has compensated for the staff shortages at state lockups by pumping “the most powerful drugs known to man into children who have not been diagnosed for psychiatric problems.”

Finkelstein says he assigned two of his staff attorneys last week to visit juvenile lock-ups and investigate what he calls the “zombification” of young offenders who had been represented by his office.

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi opened her own investigation last week. Bondi’s staff attorneys are interested in the Post’s report that psychiatrists prescribing off-label uses of such astounding quantities of the profitable anti-psychotics for DJJ prisoners (at taxpayer expense) had been greased by drug manufacturers with some $250,000 in gifts and speaking fees.

The DJJ drug scandal seems all the more maddening considering that it follows a similar uproar just two years ago after the suicide of a seven-year-old Margate foster child. Young Gabriel Myers had been given adult dosages of three anti-psychotics before he hung himself.
The Gabriel Myers Task Force, made up of child advocates, state officials, political leaders and judges from across the state, spent a year investigating whether the Florida Department of Children and Families had administered dangerous drugs as “chemical restraints” for troublesome foster children.

Foster kids, as it turned out, weren’t the only victims of the on-the-cheap ethic. But don’t think of children reduced to zombies. Think of all the money we save on prison guards.

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style *DELETED* [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
    #14545220 - 06/01/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: mikehauncho]
    #14545268 - 06/01/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This is disgusting.

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
    #14545411 - 06/01/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It was as if the schizophrenics most in need of Seroquel were roaming the halls of government, not the juvenile jails.





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    #14545591 - 06/01/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: t23]
    #14545792 - 06/01/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It really is terrible.  My brother a few years ago developed a little bit of a drug problem.  He was put into a juvenile program and was being very rebellious.  After about a year he came out fairly tranquilized.  I later found out from him that a lot of the rebellion was from improper medication dosing.

Right now I believe he's still on a combination of Seroquel and Abilify.  He's manageable but really has no desire or ambition.  I haven't really seen him get excited about anything.  Fuck Society.


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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: dickpayne00]
    #14545825 - 06/01/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Finkelstein. FINKELSTEIN!

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: scoredon]
    #14546379 - 06/01/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This isn't to save money its to turn kids onto government slaves.  If people are really fooled into thinking that it is strictly to tranquilize kids they are wrong its to brainwash them and make them submissive to the government, just turning more kids who have a chance of finding the truth into government drones by means of over medication.  Of course our government supports this our government wants to hide the truth from everyone and the more drones they create at a younger age the easier it is for these powerful political families to stay in power.

Edit: Not to mention getting these kids addicted to their prescription pills, in turn getting more money from these children in the long run by turning them into drug addicts so that they keep coming back to the system.  This fucking disgusts me!!!!!!


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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: headiesmokeonly420] * 2
    #14546996 - 06/01/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Can´t these juveniles just NOT take the pills..... I´m pretty sure it´s not literally forced down their throats... They can always argue that there are to many side effects, ect... maybe i´m missing the point...

Besides, if i was in prison, and bored as fuck, i´d welcome any drug if it even remotely relives boredom....

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14548454 - 06/01/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was in California Juveinille hall for nine days, and I can tell you that if I was offered seroquel I would have definitely taken anything that altered my state of utter normality.


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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: withoutawire]
    #14548567 - 06/01/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When, oh when will we finally get pissed enough to take down this fascist regime? Probably when it's almost too late.


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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14552835 - 06/02/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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StatuesCryBleeding said:
Can´t these juveniles just NOT take the pills..... I´m pretty sure it´s not literally forced down their throats... They can always argue that there are to many side effects, ect... maybe i´m missing the point...

Besides, if i was in prison, and bored as fuck, i´d welcome any drug if it even remotely relives boredom....




Wow there fucking kids juveniles they  dont know what this shit is or what what kind of effect its going to have on them...


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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: mskip23]
    #14561925 - 06/04/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd take seroquel in lockup. I have some insane sensitivity to it for some reason. ~5mg off of a 20mg pill will put me down for 36 hours, at least.

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
    #14561975 - 06/04/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This shit barely even surprises me anymore.

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14563723 - 06/05/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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StatuesCryBleeding said:
Can´t these juveniles just NOT take the pills..... I´m pretty sure it´s not literally forced down their throats... They can always argue that there are to many side effects, ect... maybe i´m missing the point...

Besides, if i was in prison, and bored as fuck, i´d welcome any drug if it even remotely relives boredom....




I was in detention when I was 17 (here in utah) and no I didn't have a choice. Children don't have even the few rights we still have as adults. My mother convinced the judge i was psycho and the court appointed psychiatrist mysteriously never met with me but they forced pills on me anyway. If you literally closed your mouth and refused, they would lock you in your cell all day, take away all your points for "good behavior" (which took days off your sentence) and tell the judge and your probation officer that you were being difficult and suggest that you not be released until you submit to them. thats what happened to me anyway. and yes they put on a delicious latex glove and felt around in your mouth to make sure u swallowed.

I also was sent to a teen facility where it was worse, they tried so many drugs on me, changed dosages, used drugs not approved for kids etc, i still remember one that gave me hives all over my body for 2 weeks straight and all the psycho "doctor" said was, there will initially be some side effects, but it will wear off. They gave me one that fucked up my vision and balance so badly i'd sometimes run into the walls. fuck them
edit: and in that facility, refusal was also punished by being locked in the panic room or whatever where they served u food thru the door and no one ever talked to u. like u are in solitary fucking confinement. u can refuse.. but how long do you think a 15 year old can hold out?

If any of you have kids, you better be careful. keep them out of the hands of insane people like this, they prescribe the medication that makes their fucking job easier. This isn't just happening in Florida I've seen it first hand, so have some of my friends.  Children have no rights and no choice.

Edited by OrgasmicBanana (06/05/11 09:05 AM)

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #14563843 - 06/05/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not to mention these drugs cause permanent side effects.  Does a 15 year old have the forethought to consent to taking these pills?  Are they even made aware of the possible permanent side effects?  I very much doubt it.

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #14564531 - 06/05/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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OrgasmicBanana said:
Quote:

StatuesCryBleeding said:
Can´t these juveniles just NOT take the pills..... I´m pretty sure it´s not literally forced down their throats... They can always argue that there are to many side effects, ect... maybe i´m missing the point...

Besides, if i was in prison, and bored as fuck, i´d welcome any drug if it even remotely relives boredom....




I was in detention when I was 17 (here in utah) and no I didn't have a choice. Children don't have even the few rights we still have as adults. My mother convinced the judge i was psycho and the court appointed psychiatrist mysteriously never met with me but they forced pills on me anyway. If you literally closed your mouth and refused, they would lock you in your cell all day, take away all your points for "good behavior" (which took days off your sentence) and tell the judge and your probation officer that you were being difficult and suggest that you not be released until you submit to them. thats what happened to me anyway. and yes they put on a delicious latex glove and felt around in your mouth to make sure u swallowed.

I also was sent to a teen facility where it was worse, they tried so many drugs on me, changed dosages, used drugs not approved for kids etc, i still remember one that gave me hives all over my body for 2 weeks straight and all the psycho "doctor" said was, there will initially be some side effects, but it will wear off. They gave me one that fucked up my vision and balance so badly i'd sometimes run into the walls. fuck them
edit: and in that facility, refusal was also punished by being locked in the panic room or whatever where they served u food thru the door and no one ever talked to u. like u are in solitary fucking confinement. u can refuse.. but how long do you think a 15 year old can hold out?

If any of you have kids, you better be careful. keep them out of the hands of insane people like this, they prescribe the medication that makes their fucking job easier. This isn't just happening in Florida I've seen it first hand, so have some of my friends.  Children have no rights and no choice.




Fucking Christ man! Different story now altogether. That´s just fucking sick! I would´ve paid the nice doctor a little visit afterwards.... (insert malicious laugh).

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14566220 - 06/05/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

These guys choose to take the pills you fools, there aint shit to do in lock up they actually stash pills and then take larger doses to try to get some effect

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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: wowwtf]
    #14566227 - 06/05/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes they all want to take the durgs! Fools!


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Re: Creating juvenile zombies, Florida-style [Re: blujay]
    #14568151 - 06/06/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ha I'd love to be doped up in jail.. I hear in texas adult prisons they give you the option of taking thorzine and most people take it and just sleep their sentence away.. sounds like a better choice than being conscious through the living hell that jail/prison is..

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