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Mosis
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my mom has a cabinet full of oxazepam, temazepam, and alprazolam, and alcohol is easy enough to get. what kind of cocktail do i have to ingest to guarantee death?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14552813 - 06/02/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Etc. etc. etc. you know what people will say
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14552816 - 06/02/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey don't take your life... that's a terrible idea. What going on with you to want to do this?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: OddEye] 1
#14552830 - 06/02/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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OddEye said: Hey don't take your life... that's a terrible idea. What going on with you to want to do this?
Yeah, let's talk it out before you do anything.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Moronicus] 1
#14552871 - 06/02/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Moronicus] 2
#14552875 - 06/02/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Suicide doesn't make existence or the pain stop, you will keep going. The sooner you realize life is about suffering and overcoming it, the sooner you will suffer less. Instead of taking your life, give your life to God, make it His to own, then your fate is His will and He will make the decisions in life for you.
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Mosis
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stfu buckeye oysters, you sound like an idiot
anyone with any useful information?
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Mosis
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14552928 - 06/02/11 09:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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seriously, i'm some random jack off who just leeches off and uses and hurts people. what difference does it make to any of you if i'm alive or dead?
and anyway, i'm not committing to anything. i'd just like to know that there's a foolproof, convenient backup plan, just in case.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 2
#14552934 - 06/02/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will agree, fuck life nothing worthwhile here anyway. Just get really hammered and take several time the recommended dosage of several benzos, quick and painless; just make sure your not so hammered that you throw up.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Wise Toad] 1
#14552956 - 06/02/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The fact that you came on here and posted shows that you have at least SOME desire to keep living. Rather than just go and gobble down all of them and all the booze, you came on here asking for help.
What makes you hesitate?
Dude, if you're going to off yourself, do it. It's your life, your body, your choice and I really can't be arsed to tell you what to do.
But really, why do you want to off yourself? What makes you hesitate? Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You're talking, which is good. Tell us whats up?
I'm not going to tell you it's all going to be okay, because it's not. If life is so fucked up that DEATH seems better, it's not going to be easy to get your life back on track. It's not going to be roses and sunshine, and you WILL have a lot of work ahead of you. But it IS possible.
Talk to us, what's up man?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14553124 - 06/02/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: stfu buckeye oysters, you sound like an idiot
anyone with any useful information?
Maybe you have dumb ears?... I'll say what I want, I call it like I see it. Maybe in your current lifetime you will get to see what I have seen.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Shroomerited] 1
#14553169 - 06/02/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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that's the point. i don't see that the effort of getting my life back on track is at all worthwhile.
are you sure you're willing to commit to the statement, "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem?" that's tossed around all the time, but i'm pretty sure that there are permanent problems for which suicide is an effective solution.
i'm asking, because i don't want to take too few, end up in a coma, and then wake up in a hospital a few days later. hence the desire to guarantee death.
and anyway, i'm some kind of fucking genius when it comes to everything except social interaction. a literal fucking genius; i was an undergraduate physics all-star, and then i started from scratch in graduate pure mathematics and again rose to the top. i won piano competitions and wowed endless audiences with my musical performances. the first time i sat behind a drumset, people's jaws dropped. i could go on.
too bad i have no friends. i have lost them all to anger, jealousy, insecurity, and lack of communication. the life that i've built up for myself over the past 23 years has crumbled. i'm not interested in the career path to which i've devoted myself over the past 5 years. i don't see that starting again is wortwhile.
even now, i'm not living for myself. i'm alive out of consideration for my parents.
i don't know how to talk to people. i don't know how to empathize with people. i don't understand why people don't love me like i love them. no one wants to fuck me, and i think i'm a pretty attractive guy. i need constant external validation. i'm never happy with my accomplishments. my leg has been fucked up and in pain for years. my hand is being crippled to repetitive strain injury. my social phobia is out of control. somewhere in the past few months i've lost my mind. i thought it was with my keys, but i still can't find it (i'm also very, very funny; when i'm not trying too hard i.e. when i'm not being an insecure dipshit)
i just don't get people. they don't make sense. i don't know how they work. i don't know how to get them to do what i want them to. i easily become infatuated, and when my expectations aren't met or whatever, i demonize the other party. i've never had a healthy relationship. i either dominate or am dominated. i either take for granted or am taken for granted.
i'm very insecure. i'm always scared. i have a penchant for drug abuse. i'm irrationally perfectionistic. i don't play piano anymore because of this.
i hurt people when i'm hurt; in fact, i go out of my way to hurt them. i'm very good at hurting people. very good at using their darkest fears and insecurities against them.
i'm delusional. i'm not honest with myself. i have brief moments of lucidity, and then i'm again dragged down by the undertow of destructive emotions.
the path to recovery is long, uncertain, difficult, and does not offer any worthwhile reward. all there is in the end is death and decay. in 50 years our entire planet is going to be a smouldering ball of shit. people don't give a fuck about you; they don't give a fuck about you. love is a lie. women are manipulative and untrustworthy. love is convenience.
i wish i had some weed.
tl/dr: i'm a miserable cunt and i want out!
Edited by Mosis (06/02/11 10:45 PM)
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14553175 - 06/02/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: stfu buckeye oysters, you sound like an idiot
anyone with any useful information?
Says the man trying to off himself.

Why not just run away from it all? You don't have to overcome it to avoid killing yourself, you can just run away from the situation and restart. It works sometimes.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Maverick] 1
#14553237 - 06/02/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i don't even remember making 100+ posts on this forum back when i joined 5 years ago. this is a pretty funny place. the picture of red forman with the dumbass caption is great.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Wise Toad] 1
#14553262 - 06/02/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wise Toad said: I will agree, fuck life nothing worthwhile here anyway. Just get really hammered and take several time the recommended dosage of several benzos, quick and painless; just make sure your not so hammered that you throw up.
That's stupid advice, no matter which way you look at it. Telling someone to commit suicide is against the forum rules, for one. And two, the combo is far more likely to cause him to wake up in jail.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Wise Toad] 1
#14553272 - 06/02/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wise Toad said: I will agree, fuck life nothing worthwhile here anyway. Just get really hammered and take several time the recommended dosage of several benzos, quick and painless; just make sure your not so hammered that you throw up.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: BothHands] 1
#14553278 - 06/02/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wise Toad said: I will agree, fuck life nothing worthwhile here anyway. Just get really hammered and take several time the recommended dosage of several benzos, quick and painless; just make sure your not so hammered that you throw up.
That's stupid advice, no matter which way you look at it. Telling someone to commit suicide is against the forum rules, for one. And two, the combo is far more likely to cause him to wake up in jail.
who makes the rules? you can post gifs of people fucking each other but you can't tell someone to kill themselves?
silly hippies
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Mosis
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Maverick] 1
#14553285 - 06/02/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maverick said:
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Mosis said: stfu buckeye oysters, you sound like an idiot
anyone with any useful information?
Says the man trying to off himself.

Why not just run away from it all? You don't have to overcome it to avoid killing yourself, you can just run away from the situation and restart. It works sometimes.
'cause i'm the situation.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 2
#14553304 - 06/02/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said:
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Wise Toad said: I will agree, fuck life nothing worthwhile here anyway. Just get really hammered and take several time the recommended dosage of several benzos, quick and painless; just make sure your not so hammered that you throw up.
That's stupid advice, no matter which way you look at it. Telling someone to commit suicide is against the forum rules, for one. And two, the combo is far more likely to cause him to wake up in jail.
who makes the rules? you can post gifs of people fucking each other but you can't tell someone to kill themselves?
silly hippies
not important WHO makes them you flake.
there are a lot of people that enjoy this site. dont be a fucktard
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14553335 - 06/02/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Whoever has something in hand will be given more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little they have." [Jesus]
You have so much, but have so little. And it pisses you off.
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jesus was a cunt. seriously dude, go back to the dark ages. we've learned a thing or two since then.
edit: the fact that your sig starts with "evolution isn't a religion, it's a cult..." implies nothing you say is worth the bits needed to encode it.
Edited by Mosis (06/02/11 10:58 PM)
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#14553363 - 06/02/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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no
theres a light.. life is but a candle and a dream, you must give it flame.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14553365 - 06/02/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: i don't see that starting again is wortwhile.
Awaken within the eternal moment and your perspective will change for the better.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: muistrue]
#14553391 - 06/02/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP guess what happens when you dwell in your depression?
your only going to get depression back.
get the fuck out of that mind state
focus on positive
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the human abstract said: OP guess what happens when you dwell in your depression?
your only going to get depression back.
get the fuck out of that mind state
focus on positive
Don't necessarily agree with that. He should be real. Don't focus on positive or negative. Just be real about things. If his life sucks, then it sucks and he has a right to feel this way.
It's his actions that matter. Either he offs himself, or he deals with his shit and makes his life better.
Both optimism and pessimism are shitty worldviews...
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 1
#14555739 - 06/03/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: stfu buckeye oysters, you sound like an idiot
anyone with any useful information?
Ironic how the one who sounds like an idiot.....isnt on the verge of killing him/herself. Maybe theres something to this insane God concept
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis] 2
#14556176 - 06/03/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: my mom has a cabinet full of oxazepam, temazepam, and alprazolam, and alcohol is easy enough to get. what kind of cocktail do i have to ingest to guarantee death?
It's a lot harder to kill yourself with benzos than you might assume. Don't even try it.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Society]
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are you sure? i've read that temazepam is responsible for a lot of fatal overdoses, much more than any other benzo. that together with all the others should work.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14557645 - 06/03/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: seriously, i'm some random jack off who just leeches off and uses and hurts people. what difference does it make to any of you if i'm alive or dead?
doesn't make any difference to me
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: mirage]
#14560142 - 06/04/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're still here, which means you don't want to die.
What do you want? Do you want us to tell you not to do it? Are you just looking for help?
Dude, if you want help, GET help. Tell people how you're feeling. People close to you. Family, good friends.
If you have no one you can trust, call up 1 800 273 TALK Tell them you want to off yourself. Explain to the person what's up. You will probably get taken away and sent to a hospital for awhile, but you WILL get some help. If nothing else, a story.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
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Mosis said: are you sure? i've read that temazepam is responsible for a lot of fatal overdoses, much more than any other benzo. that together with all the others should work.
Not necessarily.
Benzos are a great tool for anxiolysis, insomnia treatment, etc. Please don't waste these drugs on a petty attempt at suicide. You're just going to wake up in the hospital in worse condition than before and having wasted perfectly good treatment.
Instead, dedicate your life to loving people and perhaps fighting the drug war. You're human and therefore capable of doing so. Why not?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Society]
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Also, I forgot to mention. The main reason benzos exist so prominently on the pharmaceutical market is because they are a much safer (albiet perhaps less fun) alternative to barbiturate drugs. They sedate you and knock you out at a waaaaaaaaaaaay lower dose than is the LD50 as compared barbiturates. It's pretty difficult to kill yourself with benzos, but it's really easy to ruin your life.
You can change now. Be the change you want to see in the world and yourself. Or something like that.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Society]
#14560830 - 06/04/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis you still want to kill yourself, or did you get over it yet?
It just takes time.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
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I have eaten 2.7 grams of temazepam in one sitting while drinking beer and still woke up. All it made me do was black out and call everyone I know cussing at them like a bitch and acting like a total bitch.
Don't opt out of life. It's not worth it.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
#14562127 - 06/04/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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vandago said: I have eaten 2.7 grams of temazepam in one sitting while drinking beer and still woke up. All it made me do was black out and call everyone I know cussing at them like a bitch and acting like a total bitch.
Don't opt out of life. It's not worth it.
yeah i mean i got all that piss drinking and tampon sucking to which to look forward 
but anyway, i'm fucked up on benzos now (no suicide intended, just a normal dose) and i'm feeling quite calm. that's the thing, though: drugs always make everything seem alright. of course, the next morning i always wake up the same miserable cunt. and when i get my next "fix," i don't know what to do 'cause i feel "hey, it's not so bad after all." vicious cycle.
my social retardation has been with me my entire life. sometimes i think i'm slightly autistic, and definitely have some kind of borderline and/or narcissistic personality disorder. regardless, i don't believe that i can change. how does one replace/control/ignore habits deeply ingrained over 23 years? i don't have faith in the possibility of my own change, and because of this, i don't see that it's worthwhile to try.
i heard some bloke say something like, "too many of us only change when the pain of our current situation exceeds the pain of change." but what if the pain of living trumps both?
i wish someone here would read my rant above
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14553169#14553169
and empathize, or tell me i'm not alone and share their own experiences, instead of just calling me a dumbass (which i see as totally irrelevant anyway. plenty of intelligent, successful, loved people make the choice to off themselves, and from this vantage point, i can't see that i blame them)
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14562142 - 06/04/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosis said: seriously, i'm some random jack off who just leeches off and uses and hurts people. what difference does it make to any of you if i'm alive or dead?
and anyway, i'm not committing to anything. i'd just like to know that there's a foolproof, convenient backup plan, just in case.
why be suicidal when you can be homicidal?
kill your enemies, not yourself.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
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vandago said: I have eaten 2.7 grams of temazepam in one sitting while drinking beer and still woke up. All it made me do was black out and call everyone I know cussing at them like a bitch and acting like a total bitch.
Don't opt out of life. It's not worth it.
yeah i mean i got all that piss drinking and tampon sucking to which to look forward 
but anyway, i'm fucked up on benzos now (no suicide intended, just a normal dose) and i'm feeling quite calm. that's the thing, though: drugs always make everything seem alright. of course, the next morning i always wake up the same miserable cunt. and when i get my next "fix," i don't know what to do 'cause i feel "hey, it's not so bad after all." vicious cycle.
my social retardation has been with me my entire life. sometimes i think i'm slightly autistic, and definitely have some kind of borderline and/or narcissistic personality disorder. regardless, i don't believe that i can change. how does one replace/control/ignore habits deeply ingrained over 23 years? i don't have faith in the possibility of my own change, and because of this, i don't see that it's worthwhile to try.
i heard some bloke say something like, "too many of us only change when the pain of our current situation exceeds the pain of change." but what if the pain of living trumps both?
i wish someone here would read my rant above
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14553169#14553169
and empathize, or tell me i'm not alone and share their own experiences, instead of just calling me a dumbass (which i see as totally irrelevant anyway. plenty of intelligent, successful, loved people make the choice to off themselves, and from this vantage point, i can't see that i blame them)
You may not like having a girl dominate over you, but I'd imagine you have equal sexual desires you'd like to fill.......you can't feel when you die.
What you just described is spot on benzo addiction. Stop taking your parents meds. You feel good when you take the drugs......and then you wake up and feel like killing yourself? That is what happens to some people who dabble in benzos......and why they are prescribed to your parents and not you. One of the biggest side effects of prolonged benzo use is suicide. If you give your head a couple weeks of getting over these issues without those stupid pills, you'd begin to actually wake up feeling better instead of trying to figure out how to fall asleep feeling doped up.
Life is fucking awesome. Gimme all the bloody snatch I can eat.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
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Down a whole handle of vodka. Chances are you will pass out and die. 
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
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Giving up on life at 23 is a bad decision. It's like forfeiting a hockey game before the first period is even over.
I can empathize with many of the things you say, as I have crippling social anxiety, and have had periods in my life where my only respite from depression was drugs.
That being said since you seem to think YOU are the problem. The only thing that will make your life better is to improve yourself. This is pretty hard. It will take several years and you will often feel like you are making no progress.
It's still worth trying.
I advocate this as the only real solution for you since you probably (like me) will never have the guts to carry out your theoretical suicide. This is why you didn't kill yourself yesterday or the day before, and probably wont kill yourself today or tomorrow.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
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vandago said: I have eaten 2.7 grams of temazepam in one sitting while drinking beer and still woke up. All it made me do was black out and call everyone I know cussing at them like a bitch and acting like a total bitch.
Don't opt out of life. It's not worth it.
yeah i mean i got all that piss drinking and tampon sucking to which to look forward 
but anyway, i'm fucked up on benzos now (no suicide intended, just a normal dose) and i'm feeling quite calm. that's the thing, though: drugs always make everything seem alright. of course, the next morning i always wake up the same miserable cunt. and when i get my next "fix," i don't know what to do 'cause i feel "hey, it's not so bad after all." vicious cycle.
my social retardation has been with me my entire life. sometimes i think i'm slightly autistic, and definitely have some kind of borderline and/or narcissistic personality disorder. regardless, i don't believe that i can change. how does one replace/control/ignore habits deeply ingrained over 23 years? i don't have faith in the possibility of my own change, and because of this, i don't see that it's worthwhile to try.
i heard some bloke say something like, "too many of us only change when the pain of our current situation exceeds the pain of change." but what if the pain of living trumps both?
i wish someone here would read my rant above
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14553169#14553169
and empathize, or tell me i'm not alone and share their own experiences, instead of just calling me a dumbass (which i see as totally irrelevant anyway. plenty of intelligent, successful, loved people make the choice to off themselves, and from this vantage point, i can't see that i blame them)
You may not like having a girl dominate over you, but I'd imagine you have equal sexual desires you'd like to fill.......you can't feel when you die.
What you just described is spot on benzo addiction. Stop taking your parents meds. You feel good when you take the drugs......and then you wake up and feel like killing yourself? That is what happens to some people who dabble in benzos......and why they are prescribed to your parents and not you. One of the biggest side effects of prolonged benzo use is suicide. If you give your head a couple weeks of getting over these issues without those stupid pills, you'd begin to actually wake up feeling better instead of trying to figure out how to fall asleep feeling doped up.
Life is fucking awesome. Gimme all the bloody snatch I can eat.
uh, no it's not. you missed the point. i've had access to benzos for only a few weeks, and i might have taken them a handful of times at low doses. i've been having daily suicidal ideation for a few months now, and the cycles of drug use described above have persisted for many more months than that.
living with my parents for the past few weeks has been helpful with my drug abuse issues, but only to a point. i drink whenever i can. i've taken all my dad's t3s. i can't take too many benzos cuz my mom needs them, and is only prescribed a few at a time. but otherwise, i take anything i can get my hands on, and the fact is i can't get my hands on too much around here (i haven't smoked weed in weeks; that's the longest i haven't smoked in years. for the past 8 months or so, i've literally been high all day, every day).
please, give me anything; anything but sobriety.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14565755 - 06/05/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can't get high when youre dead.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
#14565832 - 06/05/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol vandago, you should be a life coach
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14565869 - 06/05/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just always imagined.....if there was an afterlife.....that if you went out addicted to drugs, your hell is going to be unimaginable.
Imagine all the mental pain you feel, but you have no vice to calm it. Your spirit, tortured, never given a chance to relieve it's own pain, it will never know what true strength is like, because it always relied on a high to get to the next step. You don't hate sobriety.....you hate your mental state when you are sober. The more you learn how to deal with it the better it will end up becoming, until there is no longer anything to deal with. You just become so akin to life and everything it throws at you that its all a party.
No matter how miserable I've become......and yes I've actually tried to kill myself several times with an outrageous benzo dose combined with alcohol til I pass out....The next couple days afterwards always makes me smile at least ONCE. You can't smile at all when you are dead. Honestly I can think of some serious life changing smiles I've had.......smiles people would trade their whole life for.....and those people have smiles I'd trade mine for.
What are you struggling so hard that you aren't achieving? Did you ever consider that maybe you are just programmed to feel like you are defeated? Destined for failure with the mindset you have? I really think people in their lower 20's....if not killing for our country, or slaving away at school or work....feel the same way. Some people don't reach out.....some people just kill themselves.....most if not all 40+ year olds will tell you they have been there.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
#14565938 - 06/05/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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what are your main problems with being social? you mentioned that youre narcissistic and that you have to dominate or be dominated.
your social life seams like a huge part of why youre going through this.
so when you meet someone new do you go into it feeling like youre not good enough bc others made you feel that way? do you identify yourself with how youre viewed by others feelings?
dont let people frustrate you and youll realize we all kind of feel the same thing with others..
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
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vandago said: I just always imagined.....if there was an afterlife.....that if you went out addicted to drugs, your hell is going to be unimaginable.
Imagine all the mental pain you feel, but you have no vice to calm it. Your spirit, tortured, never given a chance to relieve it's own pain, it will never know what true strength is like, because it always relied on a high to get to the next step. You don't hate sobriety.....you hate your mental state when you are sober. The more you learn how to deal with it the better it will end up becoming, until there is no longer anything to deal with. You just become so akin to life and everything it throws at you that its all a party.
No matter how miserable I've become......and yes I've actually tried to kill myself several times with an outrageous benzo dose combined with alcohol til I pass out....The next couple days afterwards always makes me smile at least ONCE. You can't smile at all when you are dead. Honestly I can think of some serious life changing smiles I've had.......smiles people would trade their whole life for.....and those people have smiles I'd trade mine for.
What are you struggling so hard that you aren't achieving? Did you ever consider that maybe you are just programmed to feel like you are defeated? Destined for failure with the mindset you have? I really think people in their lower 20's....if not killing for our country, or slaving away at school or work....feel the same way. Some people don't reach out.....some people just kill themselves.....most if not all 40+ year olds will tell you they have been there.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
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OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
#14567206 - 06/05/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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See a doctor, stat. As in, make an appointment right now. If you have no insurance go to the ER. Tell them you're going to commit suicide. My friend did that, and they kept him in hospital over night and then send him away for a week to get help. he's better now.
Are you on any meds? I might have missed it, but maybe you need some. Or some therapy, group therapy/single therapy/support groups...there's so much out there.
Find a forum that deals with what you have.
I've been there, done that. But life goes on. Don't your shit early.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Ravana]
#14573524 - 06/07/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel I need to respond to this, as I have been feeling rather suicidal as of lately as well, and seem to have the same issues that you have.
I've looked into the various ways of killing one's self, ODing on stimulants, downers, hydrogen sulfide in an enclosed space, helium gas in a tube through a plastic bag duct taped around ones neck, but then I think....
If I died what would happen? The world would continue to spin, and life would go on, my family would mourn me and who ever found me dead, which would most likely be my mother, would be scarred for the rest of their life. There by creating more damage than I initially intended, which is easing the stress of my presence here on earth. I can just imagine the stories my father, mother and brother would tell in anguish with that distant look in their eyes as they recount a life that had so much potential yet ended so selfishly. Suicide is selfish.
I don't want to be another statistic, but my life seems to be so unbearable lately that I seek the comfort of drugs (mainly dissociatives and tranquilizers at the moment) because I have been practically forced to give up everything else like my legally recommended medical marijuana so I can get work, alcohol because I become a monster and lose my potential friends as well as friends I already have when I drink (and it doesn't go well with my prescription of Valium). I can't even take psychedelics right now because of the erratic time schedule my pious mother keeps (I'm almost 30 and I'm still living at home, I get fed up, I go out into the world, rack up tons of debt and have to come crawling back home) which is probably a good idea because I am in no set to have a psychedelic experience right now. I can't even play video games because of my horrible attitude when I lose, and I too have become a leach, sucking off of the teat of government grants, loans, and family support and I feel absolutely horrible about it. I can't control my spending, and I never pay my bills. I've even gone as far as to try an distance myself from people I know who are a bad influence in my life, which is pretty much everyone I know. I feel like such a hermit and a lost cause.
But when I think of suicide, I think of all the things I would never get to see, like my brother wedding his girlfriend, and having children. The beautiful places that I could travel to, the things that are out there that I could learn, all the things I have yet to experience, finding someone to love and cherish even after going through excruciatingly painful episodes of unrequited love.
I try to stop thinking in the now and look forward to the future. I have to have faith that one day I might just pull my self up out of this depressive state and have enough strength to move past my insecurities and move on to a better spot in my life.
Maybe I'm not the best person in the world, but I'm not the worst either. I'm not stealing to support an addiction, I'm not cheating on people or screwing them over, I don't have children I hardly ever see or care about, I'm not out there with an incurable STD not telling my partners about it and having unprotected sex with them.
I generally live a caring and good life that seems to have been put on hold because of my obsessions with substances I can easily abuse to take away the my perception of a painful existence.
Seek help man. Even if you think that people won't care, and that you're just a smudge on the road of life, you WILL end up hurting someone else beyond repair if you take your own life.
My fathers dad took his life when my father was 12. I can see the relationship he has with me and the relationship that other fathers have with their sons, that he has been affected by my biological grandfathers decision. It was an incredibly selfish thing to do, and it not only had negative repercussions on MY father, but my grandmother, and my aunt as well to this very day. I can see the far off look in their eyes when they recall him in their memories, a twinge of sadness in their voices as they tell their stories, and the hardships that his actions put them through not just physically but emotionally.
Don't commit suicide, not only is it an incredibly selfish way to solve your temporary problem, but it also puts an unfair burden on other people who care about you after you are gone, and not just in the expense of them having to bury you kind of way.
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You have so much, but have so little. And it pisses you off.
We don't try to share our intelligence with you so please stop trying to share your stupidity with us.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14574728 - 06/07/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've drank on benzos a lot and been fine. I've also done a lot of opiates and benzos and been fine. You have to take more than a whole bottle of bars to die, and I know that for a fact because my friends mom tried to do that. There's a lot of easier ways, but why do you even want to die man? Life is an amazing thing.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke] 2
#14575889 - 06/07/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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ChronicSmoke said: OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
Spoken like a true 16 yr old shaman
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Almond Flour]
#14576597 - 06/07/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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y'know, it's funny; when i thought benzos were a viable exit strategy, i felt almost more at peace. now i feel trapped again. suicidal thoughts come and go; lately they've been more prevalent (along with extreme feelings of anger and jealousy), but i've read enough stories regarding the massive psychological trauma inflicted upon the living by suicides that i know i just gotta wait this out.
two people have reached out to me lately. they've offered to let me stay at their place whenever i want and to talk to them whenever i need to. we've hung out a couple of times, but we've always hit it off really well. i legitimately feel loved by them, and i don't often feel that way. that's one of my main "social problems;" i love people too easily, and expect that kind of love back. my expectations of people are just too high, but i mean, if everyone just wants to be loved, why does no one want my love?
i feel extremely jealous because my "ex" is now with a former friend. it's all fucked up, 'cause we were "together" so long, but i never recognized her as my partner. she asked me to marry her, and i said no, and for the longest time we were just stuck in our patterns. she finally broke free, spread her wings and flew away, and now i feel alone, replaced, and extremely jealous, even though i never wanted her, and used her, and took her for granted, and abused her. some tool lyrics come to mind:
"i know you best, better than anyone. i know you better than i know myself.
you can't speak. you don't judge. you can't leave. you can't hurt me. just here for me to use.
it's time for you to make a sacrifice; it's time to die a little, give it up."
and
"remember i will always love you, as i claw your fucking throat away. it will end no other way."
i thought i'd be the one clawing her throat away. turns out it's the other way around, but that's only because she found someone else before i did. it hurts even more that the other person was so close to me. i'm just so upset by the unfairness of it all (i know, i sound like a little kid; i'm a spoiled, immature twat. i don't want to accept life for what it is.)
again, to the teenage shaman, psychedelics drugs can't help me right now. i've had incredible mystical experiences and "divine" revelations; the problem is i don't act on them. i don't do what i know i need to do, to help myself, to help others. again, because it's difficult, because it's painful, and because i don't see that it's worth doing.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Almond Flour]
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ChronicSmoke said: OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
Spoken like a true 16 yr old shaman 
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
#14576757 - 06/07/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well sorry I didn't understand your problems, at first you said you had social issues.
So I figured maybe you needed something to help you focus on what your issues are, mushrooms seem to smack my problems in my face and I always find solutions for them.
And no offense but dont call me a teenager, when you cant get a grasp on your own emotions.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Almond Flour] 1
#14576776 - 06/07/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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ChronicSmoke said: OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
Spoken like a true 16 yr old shaman 
Looking at your quote from joemolly I can see you dont agree that psychedelics have amazing potential to make a person grow.
Your probably one of those types that did to much lost control and ended up blaming the drug instead of looking at yourself and using these powerful drugs with responsibility.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
#14577171 - 06/07/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you need to understand that while psychedelic drugs are a powerful tool for introspection and understanding, they don't magically fix things or instantly change people. one, two, ten peak experiences are not going to eliminate deeply engrained mental habits.
once again, i know what i have to do. if i take psychedelics, i won't learn anything new at this time in my life. i'll talk to god, see alex grey paintings unfold in front of my eyes, feel the divine love of ultimate being, transcend my self, see what needs to be done, and then wake up the next morning the same miserable cunt as always. i need to act on these revelations, and have faith that, even when the demons in my mind are screaming and raging, the insights gained in that moment are still applicable.
i have a real problem with doing things on "faith." time and time again, i see that it's not so bad. that i've built up so many things in my mind that are simply not reflective of the reality of my situation... but then that awareness fades, and i don't believe in the memory of it. i need to have faith to take the right action even when i don't feel that way at the moment.
i don't think anyone's doubting the ability of psychedelic drugs as catalysts for change; but your post makes it sound like the drugs are some kind of panacea. sure, i'll feel more socially confident at the end, maybe the next morning or two... but soon enough i'll fall back into old habits, insecurity, etc.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: AUX]
#14577189 - 06/07/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Buckeye Oysters said: "Whoever has something in hand will be given more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little they have." [Jesus]
You have so much, but have so little. And it pisses you off.
We don't try to share our intelligence with you so please stop trying to share your stupidity with us.
lol, nice. glad that guy has finally stfu'd.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
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can anyone find me a more bullshit statistic? who are these people and what do they have figured out?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
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ChronicSmoke said: OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
Spoken like a true 16 yr old shaman 
Looking at your quote from joemolly I can see you dont agree that psychedelics have amazing potential to make a person grow.
Your probably one of those types that did to much lost control and ended up blaming the drug instead of looking at yourself and using these powerful drugs with responsibility.
Where did i say this? Im a firm believer in psychedelics, and their potential for the human race. But to place them as the foundation for your beliefs, or safety net for when life has you down, is foolish 
Time to grow up son. Sitting somewhere with a bag of mushrooms inside your own head for 6 hours isnt the magic cure all for what ails you. Youll figure it out eventually. I remember my first time doing mushrooms and finding the shroomery
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: ChronicSmoke]
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ChronicSmoke said: OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
Spoken like a true 16 yr old shaman 
Looking at your quote from joemolly I can see you dont agree that psychedelics have amazing potential to make a person grow.
Your probably one of those types that did to much lost control and ended up blaming the drug instead of looking at yourself and using these powerful drugs with responsibility.
 Psychedelic drugs don't make you a better person, they are simply a catalyst for growth. They allow your mind to explore alternate patterns of thinking but it is up to you to make the change. If you take psychedelics for "spiritual purposes" and believe everything you learn, you are going to become a nut, just like if you believed everything you learn at church. A psychedelic fanatic is no different from a religious fanatic.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
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Ok, I didn't read this whole thread but you don't sound very confident about your proposed method... and I wouldn't be either. You'll probably get sick as hell real quick and then end up passing out and either waking up possibly in the hospital and very probably with some kind of internal organ damage... killing yourself with drugs is not a good idea and not always painless and fun.
I can't tell you not to, i don't know exactly how you feel and what you go through, hell i kinda want to do it too, i don't know why i haven't yet... probably because i get fucked up all the time.
But anyways, it's your choice that you have to make, and the only helpful suggestion i can give you if you do it is think of a different way. Sorry if that sounds cold but it is what it is, i'm not going to try and lie and say everything will work out if you put in enough effort because that's no guarantee. If someone hasn't changed your mind yet i hope this helps.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: AUX]
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ChronicSmoke said: OP find mushrooms, take them focus on your problems. By the time the trip is over you should feel more socially confident.
Spoken like a true 16 yr old shaman 
Looking at your quote from joemolly I can see you dont agree that psychedelics have amazing potential to make a person grow.
Your probably one of those types that did to much lost control and ended up blaming the drug instead of looking at yourself and using these powerful drugs with responsibility.
 Psychedelic drugs don't make you a better person, they are simply a catalyst for growth. They allow your mind to explore alternate patterns of thinking but it is up to you to make the change. If you take psychedelics for "spiritual purposes" and believe everything you learn, you are going to become a nut, just like if you believed everything you learn at church. A psychedelic fanatic is no different from a religious fanatic.
All it says in what you quoted is that psychedelics make you grow............
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: vandago]
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I was talking about his reference to joemolloy's quote.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: AUX]
#14581052 - 06/08/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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journal
Perhaps you recognize yourself?
deal with it 
the world is full of retards, it's fucked up and it doesn't make a lot of sense. People do care about eachother but unfortunately our monkeybrains can't love millions of people. cracked both amusing and it makes you think.
do stick around
Nothing that intrinsically motivates you?
been smoking too much weed?
i'm always negative and I have thought about the act of suicide but really considering it?
If you're that bummed out then I can't stop you, it's your own sole choice. But please don't
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Beanhead]
#14581080 - 06/08/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You've gotta be shitting me. The first thing I saw was the quote and I immediately facpalmed. Kevin Federline?  
It's a quote that is mostly attributed to Joseph Stalin, but it was likely used even before him.
Kevin Federline?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: BothHands]
#14581132 - 06/08/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Somebody doesn't know what cracked.com is like.
try to interpret the message though, read through it 
Edited by Beanhead (06/08/11 06:06 PM)
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Beanhead]
#14581176 - 06/08/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Against my better judgement, I reopened the page. And my first impression was wrong - it's actually worth reading.
But fuck, really?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Beanhead]
#14582436 - 06/08/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Beanhead said: journal
Perhaps you recognize yourself?
deal with it 
the world is full of retards, it's fucked up and it doesn't make a lot of sense. People do care about eachother but unfortunately our monkeybrains can't love millions of people. cracked both amusing and it makes you think.
do stick around
Nothing that intrinsically motivates you?
been smoking too much weed?
i'm always negative and I have thought about the act of suicide but really considering it?
If you're that bummed out then I can't stop you, it's your own sole choice. But please don't 
i definitely recognize myself. but why do you care about me sticking around or not? we don't know each other. we haven't fucked each other. what is it to you?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
#14635345 - 06/18/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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daily suicidal ideation has passed, but i'm often overwhelmed by violent thoughts fueled by anger and jealousy. however, i've been able to take a step back and just observe the thoughts and think about why i'm feeling them, and what i can do to help myself through this.
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: orison]
#14635516 - 06/18/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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good things happen to good people
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yeah, and bad things happen to good people, and good things to bad ones; what's your point?
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Re: benzo + alcohol suicide guarantee [Re: Mosis]
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