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We are dying
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Today I was attending a laboratory experience in university and the teacher said something that stuck in my head.
One guy entered the room with a bad cold and said "teacher, I feel like I'm dying, I hate being sick" in this typical way of saying one feels bad. The teacher, a 60-70 years old man, answered "we all are, since the moment we are born we are dying. That is part of the human nature and really is inevitable you should keep that in mind."
It came out of nowhere and we all had one of those nervous silences that ended with some timid laughs, to then get along with what we had to do.
I don't know, it kinda hit me. I related it to Castaneda's books where Don Juan argues that living life as if one where immortal is a mistake.
I don't think this is the first thread of this kind but I wanted to share and discuss. (And I love the conversations that go on in the shroomery )
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You have been dying since the day You were born You know it has all been planned The quartet of deliverance rides A sinner once a sinner twice No need for confession now Cause now you have got the fight of your life
No shit if u needed a teacher to fucking tell u that Thats really sad 
U fucking Age ur whole life ur organs age ur blood ages your bones age joints and eye sight eventually things shut down and your back where we started...In the ground.
its what you do in this life to help one another that makes the difference.
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Horsewithnoname said: Today I was attending a laboratory experience in university and the teacher said something that stuck in my head.
One guy entered the room with a bad cold and said "teacher, I feel like I'm dying, I hate being sick" in this typical way of saying one feels bad. The teacher, a 60-70 years old man, answered "we all are, since the moment we are born we are dying. That is part of the human nature and really is inevitable you should keep that in mind."
It came out of nowhere and we all had one of those nervous silences that ended with some timid laughs, to then get along with what we had to do.
I don't know, it kinda hit me. I related it to Castaneda's books where Don Juan argues that living life as if one where immortal is a mistake.
I don't think this is the first thread of this kind but I wanted to share and discuss. (And I love the conversations that go on in the shroomery )
Check out my numerous threads on Death Anxiety and if you are really interested in this subject I recommend Ernest Becker's book "Denial of Death"
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish] 1
#14551301 - 06/02/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Read this non-aging human's books on phsyical immortality before you jump to any conclusions. You can just feel the life-force emanating from his eyes.
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551320 - 06/02/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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kelpfish said: You have been dying since the day You were born You know it has all been planned The quartet of deliverance rides A sinner once a sinner twice No need for confession now Cause now you have got the fight of your life
No shit if u needed a teacher to fucking tell u that Thats really sad 
U fucking Age ur whole life ur organs age ur blood ages your bones age joints and eye sight eventually things shut down and your back where we started...In the ground.
its what you do in this life to help one another that makes the difference.
It's not that this got me anxious about death or scared of it, it just was that coming from a much older man than me it kinda left me speechless. Even more with the fact that he said it with a smile on his face. I love this kind of moments
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You Live You Die...
What ever else you do to change that is not in HUMAN NATURE it is not in nature at all nothing lasts forever but the Stars and Space. PERIOD.
You Live You Die You Live You die. You Live....
Get it?
You can do what ever you want to live forever eat healthy work out don't do drugs don't smoke...surgery, Etc. You can Only avoid a after life for so long...
We all owe a debt and that Debt is death. Live Life Like Now is your only Time in the whole world. If you live like that you will beat death.
Edited by kelpfish (06/02/11 03:20 PM)
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551393 - 06/02/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nicely said.
That is my whole point about this, I usually get stuck in a way of living that seems to hold as if I were immortal. But thinking of death as an inevitable companion destroys this lifestyle in the search of seizing each moment to its fullest, wherever one may stand.
I feel like death humbles me.
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551417 - 06/02/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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kelpfish said: You Live You Die...
What ever else you do to change that is not in HUMAN NATURE it is not in nature at all nothing lasts forever but the Stars and Space. PERIOD.
You Live You Die You Live You die. You Live....
Get it?
You can do what ever you want to live forever eat healthy work out don't do drugs don't smoke...surgery, Etc. You can Only avoid a after life for so long...
We all owe a debt and that Debt is death. Live Life Like Now is your only Time in the whole world. If you live like that you will beat death.
Bullshit. First of all, everything is part of nature. Also, what evidence do you have of their being an after life?
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Re: We are dying [Re: 4896744]
#14551439 - 06/02/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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iThink said:
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kelpfish said: You Live You Die...
What ever else you do to change that is not in HUMAN NATURE it is not in nature at all nothing lasts forever but the Stars and Space. PERIOD.
You Live You Die You Live You die. You Live....
Get it?
You can do what ever you want to live forever eat healthy work out don't do drugs don't smoke...surgery, Etc. You can Only avoid a after life for so long...
We all owe a debt and that Debt is death. Live Life Like Now is your only Time in the whole world. If you live like that you will beat death.
Bullshit. First of all, everything is part of nature. Also, what evidence do you have of their being an after life?
Lmao oh the stupidity
I never meant it as in God and you at the perly Gates I MEAN YOUR BODY IN THE FUCKING GROWN ROTTING is that fucking better for you? \
Nature Is always Living AND DIEING PERIOD. NOT EVERYTHING is a part of nature are u tard? Guns are a part of Nature? Pollution in the air from chemical Factory's Oh yeah that's always in nature.
Rubber Tires In long lost Fields rotting in the earth
Oh but that natural Right?
Go back to fucking school.
Nature is what you see it as but its nothing more then what is in front of you.
Nature is the Earth Sky And Sun Life is Us. And all Animals and beings ...
Death is...Death. You can Only die One way ... Dont take that the wrong way either.
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551458 - 06/02/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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kelpfish said:
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iThink said:
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kelpfish said: You Live You Die...
What ever else you do to change that is not in HUMAN NATURE it is not in nature at all nothing lasts forever but the Stars and Space. PERIOD.
You Live You Die You Live You die. You Live....
Get it?
You can do what ever you want to live forever eat healthy work out don't do drugs don't smoke...surgery, Etc. You can Only avoid a after life for so long...
We all owe a debt and that Debt is death. Live Life Like Now is your only Time in the whole world. If you live like that you will beat death.
Bullshit. First of all, everything is part of nature. Also, what evidence do you have of their being an after life?
Lmao oh the stupidity
I never meant it as in God and you at the perly Gates I MEAN YOUR BODY IN THE FUCKING GROWN ROTTING is that fucking better for you? \
Nature Is always Living AND DIEING PERIOD. NOT EVERYTHING is a part of nature are u tard? Guns are a part of Nature? Pollution in the air from chemical Factory's Oh yeah that's always in nature.
Rubber Tires In long lost Fields rotting in the earth
Oh but that natural Right?
Go back to fucking school.
Nature is what you see it as but its nothing more then what is in front of you.
Nature is the Earth Sky And Sun Life is Us. And all Animals and beings ...
Death is...Death. You can Only die One way ... Dont take that the wrong way either.
You can see nature as everything that forms part of existence and how matter interacts with itself. Under tha premise everything does fit as nature.
Guns and stuff could be part of human wastes just as oxygen is part of plants "waste" so we could talk about them as nature. Nature isn't good or bad, nature just is. I don't think nature holds any kind of moral grudge against plastic, guns or whatever, life gets around these stuff that we think are killing it.
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Horsewithnoname said:
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kelpfish said:
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kelpfish said: You Live You Die...
What ever else you do to change that is not in HUMAN NATURE it is not in nature at all nothing lasts forever but the Stars and Space. PERIOD.
You Live You Die You Live You die. You Live....
Get it?
You can do what ever you want to live forever eat healthy work out don't do drugs don't smoke...surgery, Etc. You can Only avoid a after life for so long...
We all owe a debt and that Debt is death. Live Life Like Now is your only Time in the whole world. If you live like that you will beat death.
Bullshit. First of all, everything is part of nature. Also, what evidence do you have of their being an after life?
Lmao oh the stupidity
I never meant it as in God and you at the perly Gates I MEAN YOUR BODY IN THE FUCKING GROWN ROTTING is that fucking better for you? \
Nature Is always Living AND DIEING PERIOD. NOT EVERYTHING is a part of nature are u tard? Guns are a part of Nature? Pollution in the air from chemical Factory's Oh yeah that's always in nature.
Rubber Tires In long lost Fields rotting in the earth
Oh but that natural Right?
Go back to fucking school.
Nature is what you see it as but its nothing more then what is in front of you.
Nature is the Earth Sky And Sun Life is Us. And all Animals and beings ...
Death is...Death. You can Only die One way ... Dont take that the wrong way either.
You can see nature as everything that forms part of existence and how matter interacts with itself. Under tha premis everything does fit as nature.
Guns and stuff could be parte of human wastes just as oxygen is part of plants "waste" so we could talk about them as nature. Nature isn't good or bad, nature just is. I don't think nature holds any kind of moral grudge against plastic, guns or whatever, life gets around these stuff that we think are killing it.
Lmao I wish i knew where such logic comes from
Sure if u want to look at it that way Fine... But dont fucking dare say Life Gets around these Things BECAUSE IT DOSENT WE GET AROUND FUCKING OVER ANYTHING WE DONT CARE ABOUT! Nature dosent get round plastic or Oil or radiation leaking into the enviroment It just Gets Worse!!! AND WORSE till nothing is left.
Thats so fucking childish u sound like a child
"Oh derf dont worry tommy you can throw that plastic bag in the water it'll be gone tomorrow...Life gets around these things Derf Derf Har har har "
 
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551498 - 06/02/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lmfao Oxygen part of Plants Waste But we need Oxygen TO LIVE DERF
WE breath Out c02 and the plants breath it in
They breath out oxygen and we breath it in
THE CIRCLE OF LIFE AND BALANCE
We piss in the ground because Urine Is waste But Plants take the nitrogen From the Urine to Live.
NAME ONE THING THAT TAKES PLASTIC BAGS TO LIVE OR RADIATION ...Nothing... Fucking derf bag
Not nature.... Guns as human waste     oh my sweet fuck....
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551511 - 06/02/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Noooo dude, I didn't say nature will get over these crap for our benefits, our mistake may very well end with human life, but not all life in general. Check this article out, it has real life examples of life growing in places where we have messed up big time.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19133_6-ways-nature-cleans-up-our-messes-better-than-we-do.html
Our lives won't get around a so polluted earth we can't live in, but we aren't all life on the planet, and it is very unlikely we can really end it all.
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551520 - 06/02/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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kelpfish said: Lmfao Oxygen part of Plants Waste But we need Oxygen TO LIVE DERF
WE breath Out c02 and the plants breath it in
They breath out oxygen and we breath it in
THE CIRCLE OF LIFE AND BALANCE
We piss in the ground because Urine Is waste But Plants take the nitrogen From the Urine to Live.
NAME ONE THING THAT TAKES PLASTIC BAGS TO LIVE OR RADIATION ...Nothing... Fucking derf bag
Not nature.... Guns as human waste     oh my sweet fuck....
In the article I posted you can read about fungus that eat radiation, so there you go.
don't be so eager to start facepalming around
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kelpfish said: Lmfao Oxygen part of Plants Waste But we need Oxygen TO LIVE DERF
WE breath Out c02 and the plants breath it in
They breath out oxygen and we breath it in
THE CIRCLE OF LIFE AND BALANCE
We piss in the ground because Urine Is waste But Plants take the nitrogen From the Urine to Live.
NAME ONE THING THAT TAKES PLASTIC BAGS TO LIVE OR RADIATION ...Nothing... Fucking derf bag
Not nature.... Guns as human waste     oh my sweet fuck....
In the article I posted you can read about fungus that eat radiation, so there you go.
don't be so eager to start facepalming around 
Im sorry but thats old news
Those Mushrooms Eat a fraction of what is actually there and turn it into food for themselves And it isnt eating the radiation it is eating what the radiation is made up of and has. not everything is consumed.
no way In hell would it clean up this earth especially the ocean where the radiation in japan is leaking into.
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Re: We are dying [Re: kelpfish]
#14551583 - 06/02/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man, you are close minded. I talking about think waay past our human existence, when we are gone different kinds of life will evolve, not everything will be consumed but has this been the case any time? Radiation is a very common thing in the universe, we didn't create it, we just worked things around to try and use it (and failed miserably at it).
Your observations on the cleanliness of earth is heavily biased on what is clean for our purposes and life as we know it. Life on earth does not seem to be lasting forever, only for as much as the conditions remain apt for it but in a few million years with the development of the sun it may all go away.
I don't believe there is such thing as the "circle of life", it is just a very fragile balance created through really long periods of time that is bound to end some given time.
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Horsewithnoname said:
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kelpfish said:
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kelpfish said: You Live You Die...
What ever else you do to change that is not in HUMAN NATURE it is not in nature at all nothing lasts forever but the Stars and Space. PERIOD.
You Live You Die You Live You die. You Live....
Get it?
You can do what ever you want to live forever eat healthy work out don't do drugs don't smoke...surgery, Etc. You can Only avoid a after life for so long...
We all owe a debt and that Debt is death. Live Life Like Now is your only Time in the whole world. If you live like that you will beat death.
Bullshit. First of all, everything is part of nature. Also, what evidence do you have of their being an after life?
Lmao oh the stupidity
I never meant it as in God and you at the perly Gates I MEAN YOUR BODY IN THE FUCKING GROWN ROTTING is that fucking better for you? \
Nature Is always Living AND DIEING PERIOD. NOT EVERYTHING is a part of nature are u tard? Guns are a part of Nature? Pollution in the air from chemical Factory's Oh yeah that's always in nature.
Rubber Tires In long lost Fields rotting in the earth
Oh but that natural Right?
Go back to fucking school.
Nature is what you see it as but its nothing more then what is in front of you.
Nature is the Earth Sky And Sun Life is Us. And all Animals and beings ...
Death is...Death. You can Only die One way ... Dont take that the wrong way either.
You can see nature as everything that forms part of existence and how matter interacts with itself. Under tha premise everything does fit as nature.
Guns and stuff could be part of human wastes just as oxygen is part of plants "waste" so we could talk about them as nature. Nature isn't good or bad, nature just is. I don't think nature holds any kind of moral grudge against plastic, guns or whatever, life gets around these stuff that we think are killing it.
Are you for real? Plus you're flaming people so stfu.
Oops sorry, meant this for kelpfish
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Horsewithnoname said: Today I was attending a laboratory experience in university and the teacher said something that stuck in my head.
One guy entered the room with a bad cold and said "teacher, I feel like I'm dying, I hate being sick" in this typical way of saying one feels bad. The teacher, a 60-70 years old man, answered "we all are, since the moment we are born we are dying. That is part of the human nature and really is inevitable you should keep that in mind."
It came out of nowhere and we all had one of those nervous silences that ended with some timid laughs, to then get along with what we had to do.
I don't know, it kinda hit me. I related it to Castaneda's books where Don Juan argues that living life as if one where immortal is a mistake.
I don't think this is the first thread of this kind but I wanted to share and discuss. (And I love the conversations that go on in the shroomery )
That's not a deep insight in the least..I can't believe a couple of university students got tripped out by it.
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Feel the sweat break on my brow Is it me or is it shadows that are dancing on the walls Is this a dream or is it now Is this a vision or normality I see before my eyes
I wonder why I wonder how That it seems the powers getting stronger every day I feel a strength an inner fire But I'm scared I won't be able to control it anymore
There's a time to live and a time to die When it's time to meet the maker There's a time to live but isn't it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying
Just by looking through your eyes He could see the future penetrating right in through your mind See the truth and see your lies But for all his power couldn't foresee his own demise
There's a time to live and a time to die When it's time to meet the maker There's a time to live but isn't it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying
There's a time to live and a time to die When it's time to meet the maker There's a time to live but isn't it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying... ... and be reborn again?
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Re: We are dying [Re: Poid]
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Horsewithnoname said: Today I was attending a laboratory experience in university and the teacher said something that stuck in my head.
One guy entered the room with a bad cold and said "teacher, I feel like I'm dying, I hate being sick" in this typical way of saying one feels bad. The teacher, a 60-70 years old man, answered "we all are, since the moment we are born we are dying. That is part of the human nature and really is inevitable you should keep that in mind."
It came out of nowhere and we all had one of those nervous silences that ended with some timid laughs, to then get along with what we had to do.
I don't know, it kinda hit me. I related it to Castaneda's books where Don Juan argues that living life as if one where immortal is a mistake.
I don't think this is the first thread of this kind but I wanted to share and discuss. (And I love the conversations that go on in the shroomery )
That's not a deep insight in the least..I can't believe a couple of university students got tripped out by it. 
As a engineering a physics student one must find the ability to be tripped out and amazed by the simplest things in life, why do people believe this is a bad thing?
I suppose the fact that everything falls to the ground has been understood and accepted since the beggining of times, but it took people that were amazed by it to analyse it and make the connection that it is the same thing that makes things fall to the ground the one that makes planets revolve around the sun.
anyways, thanks to everyone that commented
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