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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: 4896744]
    #14550722 - 06/02/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Which is?

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: xFrockx]
    #14550765 - 06/02/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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xFrockx said:
Which is?




Are you capable of wipping your own ass after defecating?


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: 4896744]
    #14550877 - 06/02/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Never tried wipping my ass, regardless of circumstance.

Honestly, what is this biological definition of human? I'd love to hear about it.

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: xFrockx]
    #14550909 - 06/02/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Other creatures that are capable of reproducing with me for females, and creatures capable of reproducing with the females whom i can reproduce with for males.


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: 4896744]
    #14550999 - 06/02/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Let us zoom far into the future when many different planets have been seeded by humans. The different gravity, amount of radiation from the local star and different atmosphere, etc. will over time make the inhabitants quite different, both physically and culturally, from earth-born humans. At what generational point will the extra-terrestrial humans cease being human?


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14551003 - 06/02/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Let us zoom far into the future when many different planets have been seeded by humans. The different gravity, amount of radiation from the local star and different atmosphere, etc. will over time make the inhabitants quite different, both physically and culturally, from earth-born humans. At what generational point will the extra-terrestrial humans cease being human?




At whatever point we deem such a distinction to be useful.

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: DieCommie]
    #14551023 - 06/02/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You are no fun! :archiebunker:


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14551027 - 06/02/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea, but it's true.

If we have some planet centric ideology, then we will define them as not human because they dont live on earth.  If we have a reproduction centric ideology, then we will define them as not human because when they cant reproduce with us.  If we have a cultural centric ideology, then we will define them as not human because they have different languages and customs from us.  Or, what could happen is making such a distinction is no longer useful so nobody bothers to make it.

Definitions are a function of utility, they are not inherent.

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: DieCommie]
    #14551053 - 06/02/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Now let's define what a commie actually is. :razz:


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: 4896744]
    #14551072 - 06/02/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So sterile people aren't human? What about hermaphrodites?

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: xFrockx]
    #14551092 - 06/02/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What about right-wing Christian fundamentalist weapon-toting, Rapture-spouting nutters? I have absolutely nothing in common with that species.


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14551104 - 06/02/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have absolutely nothing in common with that species.




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Riiight!

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: DieCommie]
    #14551370 - 06/02/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Let us zoom far into the future when many different planets have been seeded by humans. The different gravity, amount of radiation from the local star and different atmosphere, etc. will over time make the inhabitants quite different, both physically and culturally, from earth-born humans. At what generational point will the extra-terrestrial humans cease being human?




At whatever point we deem such a distinction to be useful.



:thumbup: this is the only answer imo


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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14555902 - 06/03/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Let us zoom far into the future when many different planets have been seeded by humans.



What if they colonize a non-planet, like Pluto?

j/k :wink:

On a more serious note: under what circumstances is it morally acceptable to abort a non-human alien fetus? On Pluto or otherwise.

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Re: The very first homo sapiens [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14556024 - 06/03/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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That whole concept makes no sense to say the first humans appeared so many hundreds of thousands of years ago. What were they X hundred thousand years + 1?




Generally the percision of the estimates is such that the answer to your question is not defined.  Then when pop sci or media butchers the translation into their own articles, or simply neglects any mention of percision to avoid confusing some, faulty implications that the estimate is percise to a year is created.

Generally if someone says 'x million number of years, some event occured', the implication is that the figure is percise to an order of magnitude equal to a million years, half a million plus or minus.  If x is greater than an integer in magnitude, its more uncertain, but I would presume the percision to be on the order of the magnitude expressed by the first non-zero digit.

Scientific notation would be preferable, but its not used in many places where it should be: nutrition information, for example.  Instead, we have the government authorizing lies, such as "No Fat"/ "Fat Free" when this is false.  In the US, percision of the measurements aren't provided at all, which becomes particularly problematic when the figures are attempted to be used to descern the amount of some category in a portion signifigantly greater or less than a serving.

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