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KingEmblem
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Mastering the Smokeless Exhale
#14549479 - 06/02/11 05:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay, this IS a long read, but I believe there is actual benefit to the reader, because I have included a step by step guide. I would make a TL;DR version of this post with just the steps on how to do it, but I don't want people hurting themselves through oxygen deprivation. 
Lately I've been noticing that on some of my hits, I exhale very little or no smoke. This always amazes me, and I would like to think it is because my body has literally absorbed it all. 
Now now, I know this isn't unheard of, but I rarely see it mentioned, and especially never when someone asks how best to conserve their weed.
I found this thread worthy because I think I've figured out how to do it with a fairly high success rate, which I will share with you all for the benefit of our community. This may only be possible for seasoned stoners. 
-First, take several deep breaths. This makes it easier to hold it in for longer. Now, clear your lungs of ALL air. You want max capacity. Before I used to start with a bit of oxygen in my lungs, but now I exhale to the point where I can't anymore and my chest sinks in.
-Take a slow roasting, calm hit, all the while also letting in just a bit of oxygen along the way. DO NOT IGNORE THIS!!! Since you cleared your lungs completely already, you will feel the lack of oxygen, it will be harder to hold the hit in, and you are possibly harming your brain.
-You can take a big hit, I still take the same size hits as I always do, which is enforced by the fact that I use a one-hitter pipe 90% of the time (it only fits enough for one fatty toke, and I know when I put too much because it clogs ). BUT do not take such an exaggerated hit that you cannot hold the smoke in. Also do not take such a densely retarded hit that there's no oxygen in it...this either makes The Smokeless Exhale impossible or dangerous to your brain. People always blow out HUGE clouds after holding it in 5 seconds..and they wonder how an eighth lasts them 1-2 days. The worst is they think it's super cool. Okay, maybe if you're hanging with friends/partying it might be, but otherwise it's just "lolol look how much smoke I am NOT absorbing!!!" 
-Okay, the big step. After 10 seconds or so of holding in your oxygen-rich hit, breathe in some MORE air. This will not work if your lungs are bursting, so don't take retard hits. Wait 5 more seconds, breathe more in. Either I'm special or the longer you hold it in, the more oxygen you can eventually breathe in. In my mind, this is pushing the smoke DEEPER into your lungs. Every ~5 seconds, breathe more in. Eventually, and not after too long either, it won't be an effort to hold it because you'll be taking in air also.
-Now, just exhale partially, see if any smoke comes out. Regardless if any does (better safe than sorry, sometimes none appears to come out at first but some will eventually if you keep going), stop and inhale just once more. Wait a bit, exhale. Voila! If done correctly, there should be no smoke and you should be feeling super baked. 
Now now, I know some people will argue against this. I've thought this through:
A lot of people will argue that you do not get higher holding a hit in longer than 10 seconds or so. I think this might be true, BUT you still blow out roughly the same amount of smoke holding it in for 30 vs. 10 seconds. Also, when you blow the smoke out and conserve it in something, or blow it into another person's mouth, it works just about as well. So there MUST be actives in it. Saying your lungs absorb all the actives and the smoke is carcinogens is an ASSUMPTION, one that is false from my observations. There ARE AT LEAST actives in the smoke still: the smoke still works. Even hotboxing would be unpopular if the smoke was bunk. Plus, subjectively, I feel higher. All my muscles are vibrating, and my heart beats considerably (not in a panicky way) on each hit. Note I am smoking sativa, so I feel stimulated, even fucking jittery, but it feels good, like vibrations. 
Disclaimer: First off, I consider myself pretty good at holding smoke in. From a short one hitter, that is, unfiltered, uncooled smoke, I usually hold a hit in about 15-25 seconds, exhale partially, reinhale, hold another ~15 and release....AKA ghosting, fairly common and should be practiced by all IMO. I am in decent shape (not trying to be humble, I used to be more athletic and that was great shape, now it is just good) and I have pretty good lung capacity, can hold my breath minute+, etc. This is just important to mention because I'm not sure you could pull off The Smokeless Exhale without good holding ability in the first place. Also, I always let a bit of air in with my hits, cooling it down significantly. Heat is not related to lung capacity. 
Another word of caution, do not do this with tobacco in your weed, either mixed in or in a blunt wrap. I also reckon this would be impossible or super hard to do with extremely thick smoke, like a lot of SUPER dank hash. Holding those hits in for too long feels like death, your lungs feel like they're caving in. Be careful with how toasted this gets you, too.
Try this out. I am almost too high. I'm fucking twitching, random muscles are spazzing out and shit (man I love sativas!!). Look how much I babbled. 
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Edited by KingEmblem (06/02/11 08:14 AM)
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: KingEmblem]
#14549636 - 06/02/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still cough my ass off.
Even my vaporizer beats my ass sometimes, masybe my bud is just too strong.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: ChronicSmoke]
#14549859 - 06/02/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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to me this just sounds like overthinking your weed too much, but then again, it makes sense
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When inhaling just inhale air at the end
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I just smoke my weed
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: heratogwea]
#14549884 - 06/02/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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heratogwea said: I just smoke my weed
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KingEmblem
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People probably said "duh" when my nigga Descartes was all "cogito ergo sum, bitches," too.
Look at my user title. Fuck ya'll; I'M proud of this shit.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: KingEmblem]
#14549943 - 06/02/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is how I've always smoked, actually. Not sure why. I take a pretty big hit, hold it about 10 seconds, then do a quick inhale of more air to get a little O2 in my brain and "stretch" my lungs, then I do it one more time.
Then as I exhale, I'll do little puffs and hold, or sometimes exhale a little and inhale more.
You get super high super fast on very little bud.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: gornyhuy]
#14549948 - 06/02/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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PS: try smoking deemsters this way. Holey moley.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: KingEmblem]
#14549971 - 06/02/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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this all seems extraordinarily pointless
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Quote:
tymoteusz3 said: TLDR:When inhaling just inhale air at the end
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KingEmblem
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: heratogwea]
#14550008 - 06/02/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How about when a spiritual teacher exclaims "I am." or when you have to trip very hard to come to that realization yourself? Obvious?
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: KingEmblem]
#14550011 - 06/02/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
KingEmblem said: How about when a spiritual teacher exclaims "I am." or when you have to trip very hard to come to that realization yourself? Obvious?
Life is in the details.

I'm my spiritual teacher...for now
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KingEmblem
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: heratogwea]
#14550029 - 06/02/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Me too. And I'm not even sure I believe in any of it. 
Oh well, back to one-liners and emoticons, like the public enjoys. I can't believe the thread in the pub got more intelligent discussion than this one. Oh well, enjoy your Joe Molloy threads.
If a mod wants to close one, go with this one. I only put it in both sections because I couldn't decide which was a better fit. Plus, this gets you psychedelically baked.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: KingEmblem]
#14550042 - 06/02/11 09:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Someone sounds too high.
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KingEmblem
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: gornyhuy]
#14550066 - 06/02/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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gornyhuy said: This is how I've always smoked, actually. Not sure why. I take a pretty big hit, hold it about 10 seconds, then do a quick inhale of more air to get a little O2 in my brain and "stretch" my lungs, then I do it one more time.
Then as I exhale, I'll do little puffs and hold, or sometimes exhale a little and inhale more.
You get super high super fast on very little bud.
Actually, this is a worthwhile post. Since you've been using this method for awhile, have you noticed any negatives to it? Mainly, do you ever feel like you've deprived your brain of oxygen? Also, is it worse on your lungs? To me it feels gentle, but maybe it builds up more tar in the lungs or something.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: KingEmblem]
#14550171 - 06/02/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had been smoking that way for years, too. Just kind of felt natural to get the most out of my bud. I'd noticed I get more 'head rushes' sometimes which probably is a lack of oxygen and I'm sure it is worse on your lungs but you're right, you get SUPER baked. I switched to vaping though, and now I've quit THC all together(for now). Nothing but psyches for me!
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All the THC in bud smoke is absorbed in 3 seconds into your blood stream, any longer holding the smoke in you just get more of the tars and bad things in the smoke. Holding it in does nothin for your high except maybe a placebo affect or oxygen deprivation affect.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: briant230]
#14550198 - 06/02/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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briant230 said: this all seems extraordinarily pointless
Ding! You absorb most of the THC within seconds. You're just increasing the tar and other crap in your lungs really.
We always called it "zeroing" your hit.
And it gets you more fucked up with just about any type of smoke IME.
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Re: Mastering the Smokeless Exhale [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14550210 - 06/02/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There is definitely a tl;dr version of this. It is as follows;
hold ur breath way way way long
I do that shit all the time. Works er'ry time.
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