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Gay's. oooo lala lele *DELETED*
    #14548792 - 06/02/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: Im fat. And Im going platinum.



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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14548826 - 06/02/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think they recently found a gene which promotes homosexuality in rats or something.

Either way, neither of you invented the universe, sexuality, or gay people, so you will never know.

Stop argueing about pointless things. That's for faggots.

EDIT: Also, there's a huge difference between faggots and gays. I know plenty of faggots who arent gay, and plenty of gays who arent faggots. Tell her to stop being so sensitive to meaningless words.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14548837 - 06/02/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Is there a gene that promotes pedophilia?

How about people who like having sex with animals?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14548843 - 06/02/11 12:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe there is, who cares how other people live their lives? Fuck man, let people just be how they are. Why do you care so much, do you have some gay thoughts that you're scared and insecure about, cant stand to think you may have been born that way, and that society has poisoned you?

Let it go. You'll just never know the answer, and no one here can tell you it.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14548848 - 06/02/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

if you wanna look at is negative its going to appear negative

believe what you want.. i think its both psychological and physical


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14548853 - 06/02/11 12:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've read in reports that gay men are far more likely to have a hair swirl pattern in the back of their head that goes counter clockwise rather than clockwise like straight men, and some other common occurrences that were noted that I can't remember right now.

If it's true then that would seem to link to a gene. But I definitely believe some of them choose that lifestyle on their own too.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14548854 - 06/02/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Gays choose to be gay? Try saying that to gays whose parents put them through electric convulsive therapy (sending electric currents through the brain) to make them straight, unsuccessfully I might add. Try telling that to my friend who tried so hard to be straight for 10 years, pretending to be straight, going out with girls, even joining in on minor gaybashing, only to come out, and have his parents practically disown him. They chose to be gay?

How would one go about changing your sexual orientation? Fuck that, no matter how much I try, I'll never be gay, no matter how much gays try, they'll never be straight.

Even if choosing your sexual orientation is possible, what are the experiences that will make them want to be gay? So they can get beat up more in high school? Do white dudes choose to be gay cause they feel left out? They want to be part of a hated minority too? Do black dudes choose to be gay so now they can be a nigger and a faggot?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14548909 - 06/02/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe there is, who cares how other people live their lives? Fuck man, let people just be how they are. Why do you care so much, do you have some gay thoughts that you're scared and insecure about, cant stand to think you may have been born that way, and that society has poisoned you?

Let it go. You'll just never know the answer, and no one here can tell you it.




Well hell, I will never really know how the universe was created or what exactly happened to dinosaurs either. That does stop me from pondering and discussing. Its natural to discuss these things.

Why wouldnt people discuss something that sparks interest? Its fun.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14549468 - 06/02/11 05:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Did you ever think that maybe sexuality has shades of gray? Why does it have to be nature OR nurture?  Maybe different people are gay for different reasons. durr.
Personally I think you're repressing something, just from personal experience.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL] * 1
    #14549530 - 06/02/11 05:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty awesome choice man...

1/20 the number of potential partners
a highly repressive social climate
no chance of reproduction

Gay? Born that way.

This is caveman debate. Most higher species, including non-mammals like birds, have very reliable incidences of homosexuality among their population.

If that doesnt scream "darwinistically favored genetic trait" to you I don't know what does.

Species of social animals are benefitted by gay individuals among them, thats why over 100 species have it in reliable incidence.

Its a biological fact that the more older siblings you have, the more likely it is that you're gay. Gays throughout species tend to uphold the group/colony without adding to it in terms of offspring. Homosexuals in humans historically have adopted orphaned children, for one example of adding to the group. Gays also tend to be strongly socially active within the group.

Its genetic, not just choice, and its a feature, not a bug.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14549540 - 06/02/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They choose to be gay




How old were you when you chose to be straight?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Asante]
    #14549567 - 06/02/11 06:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

> Its genetic, not just choice

Personally, I suspect that homosexual tendencies can occur through either genetics (nature) or through upbringing (nurture).  Regardless, I do not believe that either of these are a choice.  A homosexual does not choose to be a homosexual any more than a cat chooses to be a cat.  We are what we are, which is a result of our genetics and our upbringing; no amount of will power is going to change that.  It is unfortunate that society demeans a group of people for not conforming to some arbitrary moral norm.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14549809 - 06/02/11 07:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So why don't people who are gay, in a religious environment that condemns them (Christianity, Islam, ect), just choose to go back to being straight?  If you believe homo's goto hell then you better just flip that switch asap right?

Because they CAN'T.  It's not a choice and can't be undone.  We wouldn't be having this conversation if it could.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Doc_T]
    #14549995 - 06/02/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They choose to be gay




How old were you when you chose to be straight?





I dont know exactly when I realized what I liked. Probably in grade school. Even before I was interested in sex I was interested in little girlies. I had so many gradeschool crushes on cuties.

When I was just a toddler or very young boy I used to go into the basement with the nieghbor girl and we would show eachother our "private places". lol.

When I was an old boy just starting puberty I took the neighbor girl into the woods and we touched our private places. hahaha. It was so dumb.

Then it developed into strong interests in porno. Then in college, bam! I began to finally slay pussy left and right.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14550015 - 06/02/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think you're born gay...Fuck, the gay guys in school with us were clearly gay (although we didnt have the mindset to pinpoint it then) in 3rd-4th grade....and then come puberty, it was quite clear.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: shLong]
    #14550022 - 06/02/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

and why the :thumbdown: in the thread title :hank:  ?

I dont get what gay men/women to do people to get all the haters...:shrug:


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: shLong]
    #14550183 - 06/02/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

For me, in my personal experience, I wasn't "born gay" but grew homosexual interest due to social experience.

I do, however, think that my heterosexual interest came naturally, in the sense that one day, I was rolling with a male friend of mine who I had a huge crush on; under normal circumstances I would be focusing on how bad I wanted to fuck him, but ALL I could think of was how desperately I needed to get in some pussy. Nothing provoked this, I just knew that that's what my dick wanted.

Now I'm bi :shrug2:


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: LSDXM]
    #14550291 - 06/02/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

since i can remember i've had crushed on girls. never on dudes. and thank god because, though there is nothing wrong with homosexuality in itself, i'd really hate to deal with the stigma. congrats you openly gay people! you're some strong ass mofo's for putting up with it!


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Seuss]
    #14550440 - 06/02/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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> Its genetic, not just choice

Personally, I suspect that homosexual tendencies can occur through either genetics (nature) or through upbringing (nurture).  Regardless, I do not believe that either of these are a choice.  A homosexual does not choose to be a homosexual any more than a cat chooses to be a cat.  We are what we are, which is a result of our genetics and our upbringing; no amount of will power is going to change that.  It is unfortunate that society demeans a group of people for not conforming to some arbitrary moral norm.



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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: eritas]
    #14550480 - 06/02/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Gays can DEFINITELY be born gay. It occurs in nature, I have seen gay dogs. These two male dogs chose to exclusively hump one another although females were present.   

Homosexuality is at least parially inherited through genetics I'll cite my high school bio book, I remember the genetically modified a certain species of fly to act sexually only toward the same sex. I remember in middle school there was this SUPER feminine dude, who only hung out w/ chicks but never was with any of them. I knew he was gay the minute I met him, so did the rest of the school. He didn't come to terms w/ it till the end of high school! He didn't want to be gay, but was.

You have a pretty closed mind if you think just because in YOUR experience you have never been attracted to the same sex, so no one else could possibly feel this way without faking it right?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14550608 - 06/02/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

it sounds like your fighting something inside


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14550636 - 06/02/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

OP is an ignorant fucking loser, its people like OP that need to fucking wake up and maybe look into a subject before they argue with others and bring no actual evidence or facts to the table.

To say all gays choose to be gay is just stupid. I may be a straight man but I didn't choose to like girls, I was born that way.

For your own sake, open your mind and stop being a douche.

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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #14550808 - 06/02/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't subscribe to the fact that being a homomsexual is natural.

Sexual desire is the fuel for procreation. Two people of the same sex pleasuring one another is pissing in the wind.

It's an issue that has been identified with the way a child's upbringing can influence the way in which gender roles are identified with.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Fraggin]
    #14550832 - 06/02/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't subscribe to the fact that being a homomsexual is natural.

Sexual desire is the fuel for procreation. Two people of the same sex pleasuring one another is pissing in the wind.

It's an issue that has been identified with the way a child's upbringing can influence the way in which gender roles are identified with.



but.... its observed in many, many other species. it isn't exclusive to homo sapien. you think boy birds are checking each others feathers out to displease their parents?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Fraggin]
    #14550969 - 06/02/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't subscribe to the fact that being a homomsexual is natural.

Sexual desire is the fuel for procreation. Two people of the same sex pleasuring one another is pissing in the wind.

It's an issue that has been identified with the way a child's upbringing can influence the way in which gender roles are identified with.




It is extremely ignorant to say it's unnatural and that sexual desire is only for reproduction. EVERYONE plays a role in the grand scheme of things and homosexuals play an important role in population control, not that they aren't able to reproduce but it's difficult. It is unnatural? It is no more then being left-handed. Do you consider being left-handed unnatural too?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #14551075 - 06/02/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How can anyone say its "unnatural" or wrong? Its just the way some people are.

There are people that are born with other brain differences than you or I. Doesn't make them less or more.

Obviously its not at all the same or even related, but for a long time psychopaths where thought to be made that way from child hood trauma but now we know that these people are born with less active amygdala.

Do not take this as me comparing Homosexuals to mentally unstable people, its just an example of society and science being very wrong about human development.

Sexuality is one of these things your born with.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #14551100 - 06/02/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's extremely ignorant for a man to fuck another man.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Fraggin]
    #14551127 - 06/02/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It's extremely ignorant for a man to fuck another man.



Maybe perhaps, just MAYBE there are people out there that don't subscribe to your particular brand of thought.

Have you ever thought that if two individuals of consenting age and same sex could legitimately love and care for each other? No differently than you or I love our wives or girlfriends?

Why should these people not be free to express there love with a bond of marriage?

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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: 2Cents]
    #14551154 - 06/02/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It really doesn't matter at this point whether or not sexual desire stems specifically from the biological need to procreate to ensure the survival of the species.

We made it. There's almost 7 billion of us. We can start playing around with each others junk just for fun now if we want. Way's the bug deal?


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: 2Cents]
    #14551226 - 06/02/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think its stupid.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Cherk]
    #14551233 - 06/02/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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it sounds like your fighting something inside





Why? You tryin to hook up?:naughty:


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Fraggin]
    #14551254 - 06/02/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It's extremely ignorant for a man to fuck another man.




I don't really understand why you're so focused on what they do in bed? When I see someone who is heterosexual i don't suddenly think about who they are fucking. Sexual orientation is so much more than just which gender you screw at night. It's about who you love.

And to the original post, would you honestly choose to be someone who has prejudice coming at you from all sides?


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    #14551274 - 06/02/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It's extremely ignorant for a man to fuck another man.




I don't really understand why you're so focused on what they do in bed? When I see someone who is heterosexual i don't suddenly think about who they are fucking. Sexual orientation is so much more than just which gender you screw at night. It's about who you love.

And to the original post, would you honestly choose to be someone who has prejudice coming at you from all sides?





Why yes, yes I would. I make choices in my life already that have similar outcomes. Such as joining the millitary.


Its kind of a similar. At least in the respect that nobody agrees.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: shLong]
    #14551317 - 06/02/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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and why the :thumbdown: in the thread title :hank:  ?

I dont get what gay men/women to do people to get all the haters...:shrug:





The thumbs down was pertaining to the debate with my girl. I couldnt even really argue with her because I saw the fire in her eyes!! I knew she would explode.

She was even touchy about me saying midget lol! I am supposed to use little person when refering to her midget friend. hah


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14551387 - 06/02/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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nickynack338 said:
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Fraggin said:
It's extremely ignorant for a man to fuck another man.




I don't really understand why you're so focused on what they do in bed? When I see someone who is heterosexual i don't suddenly think about who they are fucking. Sexual orientation is so much more than just which gender you screw at night. It's about who you love.

And to the original post, would you honestly choose to be someone who has prejudice coming at you from all sides?





Why yes, yes I would. I make choices in my life already that have similar outcomes. Such as joining the millitary.


Its kind of a similar. At least in the respect that nobody agrees.



Wow... joining the military is nothing whatsoever like being gay. Joining the military is an honorable thing and the majority of people think so. I do not agree with violence unless in the case of self defenses, but defending one's country is a very honorable thing. That being said, the majority of the world's religions are against homosexuality. Homosexuals are taunted, raped, and killed for being gay. It is dangerous being an open homosexual in southwest Virginia, where i live. There may be some people who do not agree with the military but it is nowhere near the prejudice that homosexual face on a daily basis.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: nickynack338]
    #14552286 - 06/02/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)





Wow... joining the military is nothing whatsoever like being gay. quote]



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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14552355 - 06/02/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

maybe rather then seeking to reaffirm your bias against homosexuals you should see why your girlfriend is so passionate about the issue.

as to midget being offending, i wouldn't know, every time i encounter someone obviously different i strive to make them feel just as everyone else by treating them that way.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #14552562 - 06/02/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

probably because she is extremely kind.

I actually never called the midget a midget. I have known her since I was a kid but I never hung out with her. We sat down and started drinking beers and she said..get it out of your system! Call me a midget! Hahaha. I was like.. Ok. Midget!

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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: XUL]
    #14552748 - 06/02/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

short people are funny and I think they are all perverted and highly sexual cause I had this one friend and he was always trying to get me to hookup with this chick I was friends with and he was always making sex jokes in class


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Cherk]
    #14553532 - 06/02/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't believe people choose to be gay, but I also don't buy the genetic argument.

Is liking fat chicks genetic?  How about Asian chicks?  What about fucking sheep?

I don't think any of that shit is genetic, but I also don't believe anybody woke up one day and said, "You know, I think I'm going to just CHOOSE to start liking the idea of fucking animals."  Or fat chicks or Asians or whatever.

I think it's all just random psychological variance.  People like what they like and there's probably a million things over time that led them to it.


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #14553734 - 06/03/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

this thread fails

it seems like at the level of the OP and GF's argument one could insert many different issues that try to delineate between choice and necessity... blah blah blah blah blah

its not one or the other, for one you guys omitted bisexuality...

sexuality is a drive edited by society yes, thats about it really

obviously an organism could fuck all sexes and still procreate and fuck goats, cows, and corpses and still pass on genes...

what you are ending up debating is morals, not sexuality


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Anonymous #5

Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: andrewss] * 1
    #14557333 - 06/03/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah this argument is fucking stupid.  I can guarantee you everyone that is gay didn't choose to be gay.  There's enough bullshit in society on this topic.


Edited by Anonymous (06/03/11 08:07 PM)


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Re: Gay's. oooo lala lele [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #14557912 - 06/03/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I enjoy blaming the parents of homosexuals.


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