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Wing
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: MycoPron]
#14550055 - 06/02/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wait for pins before introducing it to fruiting. History shows a better pinset. Why try to force pins? Better off to let it do it on its own and keep it in favorable conditions while its doing it.
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IngSocTHC



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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: Wing]
#14553240 - 06/02/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the first I have heard of the "wait to see pins" tek. They usally happen at 12 days @ 82 (give or take a few days)? I was under the impression that they wouldn't start forming pins until light, FAE, and a temp drop was introduced.
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TranscendingLife
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14553254 - 06/02/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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nope, they'll form when your substrate is 100% consolidated.
your temps are too high. 74F max for colonizing bulk, as it produces A LOT of heat.
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ShadOWCrack
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this is after i birthed them, they sit on the shelf at room temp till i get
 
almost 2 days later
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ShadOWCrack
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ps
i wait a few days after i get pins on my trays too 1 day after i put it in
 

 
i like it like this. look at the dates on the pics
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TranscendingLife
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High CO2 colonization is a pinning strategy...
gotta love those 1 flush wonders...
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IngSocTHC



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Yeah boi, check them ladies out! =) Sweet yeah unfortunately I cant get the temp any lower with out running my A/C 24/7 and my rommie dont mind my science project but im sure he might mind the extra $100+ on the electric bill Heheh im a little slow on the uptake but just realized that alot of my info and my tubs that I made came from your mono tek... Soooo yeah thanks for all the helpfull advice
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13shrooms
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14553952 - 06/03/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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IngSocTHC said: This is the first I have heard of the "wait to see pins" tek. They usally happen at 12 days @ 82 (give or take a few days)? I was under the impression that they wouldn't start forming pins until light, FAE, and a temp drop was introduced.
P.Cubensis are a tropical fungi, no temp drop is needed for them to pin, they do all phases of their life @ room temp (72-78*) for indoor cultivation.
some gourmet mushrooms require a temp drop (cold shock) in order to fruit but thats not the case for cubensis. 

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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14553968 - 06/03/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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wait til you see pins then fruit
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IngSocTHC



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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14554017 - 06/03/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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All kinds of helpfull advice here, I read alot on this site but rarely do I learn this much in a day, like shroomies dont need light and 75-78 is perfect for cubinsis. I can keep my room at 75 with a little help.
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14554203 - 06/03/11 03:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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my room stays in the 75-80 sometimes and they do great!!
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IngSocTHC



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Well the one more coloniZed had a spot of mean green on the surface sitting on top of some healthy myc, prolly due to openings it the other day :/ so I specialized a spoon took a mean chunk out of it and now going to put it outside with some fae and hope for the best. Any one have any success stories on this or is it a lost cause?
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TranscendingLife
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14555718 - 06/03/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Never tried that, if it's green it's spored...
If it was a tiny spot you can make a salt paste & cover the spot w/ that, but as you've already taken it outside. Just leave it & see how it does.
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14555733 - 06/03/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you should still get a flush out of it but once you see green its not good, just keep it away from your stuff, those trich spores stick to everything and will ruin all your future grows if you arent careful. 
change your cloths if you opened the contamed tub because if its green it sporulated and the shit spores was flyin everywhere. 
just clean as much as you can if you think its an issue, 10% bleach water and ousting the air will do the trick or vinegar then peroxide in separate spray bottles to disinfect everything well.
like so:
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*Vinegar and Hydrogen Peroxide as Disinfectants By Judy Stouffer, B.S., M.S., SFO You can make your kitchen a cleaner, safer place and fight bacteria, without exposing yourself and your family to toxic chemicals that also damage the environment. You can use a simple safe disinfecting spray that is more effective than any of the commercial cleaners in killing bacteria. As a bonus, it is inexpensive! Susan Sumner, a food scientist at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, worked out the recipe for just such a sanitizing combo. All you need is three percent hydrogen peroxide, the same strength available at the drug store for gargling or disinfecting wounds, and plain white or apple cider vinegar, and a pair of brand new clean sprayers, like the kind you use to dampen laundry before ironing. If you're cleaning vegetables or fruit, just sprits them well first with both the vinegar and the hydrogen peroxide, and then rinse them off under running water. It doesn't matter which you use first - you can spray with the vinegar then the hydrogen peroxide, or with the hydrogen peroxide followed by the vinegar. You won't get any lingering taste of vinegar or hydrogen peroxide, and neither is toxic to you if a small amount remains on the produce. As a bonus: The paired sprays work exceptionally well in sanitizing counters and other food preparation surfaces -- including wood cutting boards. In tests run at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, pairing the two mists killed virtually all Salmonella, Shigella, or E. coli bacteria on heavily contaminated food and surfaces when used in this fashion, making this spray combination more effective at killing these potentially lethal bacteria than chlorine bleach or any commercially available kitchen cleaner. The best results came from using one mist right after the other - it is 10 times more effective than using either spray by itself and more effective than mixing the vinegar and hydrogen peroxide in one sprayer. Science News August 8, 1998; Vol. 154, Issue. 6; pg. 83-85 DISINFECTANT SCIENCE
*Best cheapest sanitizing agent I have found is one mist bottle full of white vinegar, another mist bottle full of H202. Spray one on, wait a minute, spray other on, wait a minute, wipe down with clean paper towels (doesn’t matter which is sprayed on - first). That combo will KILL...E-Coli, Salmonella, Aids & host of almost all other nasty stuff, including mold spores. Just prior to using any tray, or container -- alc swab with 70% alc & allow to evap. 70% alc is MORE EFFECTIVE, as evap time is longer than higher % alc. SANITIZING STERILIZER
*Sanitize means to reduce the number of contaminants to a safe or relatively safe level as may be judged by public health requirements. Disinfect means elimination of all recognized pathogenic microorganism but not necessarily all microbial forms. Sterilize means the destruction of all microbial life by use of chemical or physical procedures. DISINFECTANTS
*White vinegar in one spray bottle. 3% peroxide in another spray bottle. Spray one on, give it a moment, spray the other on, give it a few moments.... then wipe down with clean cloth. Cheap & effective to disinfect anything. DISINFECTANT CHEAP
*ALSO Buying in bulk bottles, then filling a spray mist bottle, is a LOT cheaper than buying Lysol in spray cans. Agar is FRUGAL. SANITIZING STERILIZER

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IngSocTHC



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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14556291 - 06/03/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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AMU FTW!
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IngSocTHC



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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14556502 - 06/03/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So if I never put it out side yet it would he highly recommended? Or just make some paste? Tron it into fruition or still wait for pins? Damn you trich!
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Re: Thoughts on this mono? [Re: IngSocTHC]
#14556608 - 06/03/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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if u see green that means theres spores. If you get that all over you/grow room, it will be a bitch to get rid of. just remember when u fan u are spreading the green all over.
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ShadOWCrack
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this is a pic of the green BEFORE it has its spores.
 
these are old pics so there not that great
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TranscendingLife
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like SC said...if it's green it's mean...ditch it.
I spot w/ salt+water = paste before moving to stop the spores from getting everywhere during transportation. Or you can just stuff it in a plastic bag & tie it tight...
but no matter what, toss that bitch outside!
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IngSocTHC



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Sigh makes perfect since, wish I woulda thought of that before hand. now im scared I got mushroom AIDS all over my room. /sigh time to dursh the fuck out of it this weekend and hope for the best.... in theory isnt there green mold spores pretty much everywhere any ways?
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