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It's so strange. 1
#14547879 - 06/01/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been watching war documentaries on WWI and WWII. I've watched and heard about millions of men women and children dying for almost nothing. Hundreds of thousands of soldiers dying before they were 25 years old. Mostly in futile battles dying in waves for a few yards of soil.
It's so strange to me that I consider myself so important. Like what happened to them was just some fiction and nothing like that could ever happen to me. As if they were somehow making a mistake that I would never make. No matter how many times I tell myself that this feeling is nonsense, I feel much more real than they do.
In some documentaries survivors, old men now, tell how they believed they could never die in what was happening. Even when their comrades were dying all around they never thought seriously it could or would happen to them. They must have felt just like I do. Like they are intrinsically different then the others who die.
How strange this feeling is when a part of me knows that it isn't true. Yet it will not go away no matter how I try to rationally dispute it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (06/01/11 08:49 PM)
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Icelander]
#14547920 - 06/01/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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strange.. i was just thinking of this today and how i feel the same way, its kinda just like how people will recklessly drive, or talk on the phone while driving because they think they cant get into an accident or get caught, but in reality everyone is exposed to the world, and all dangers apply the same to each human. It might have to do with the whole illusion of life? all the movies n what not. The main person in a book or a movie usually never dies.
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that or just death in general is such a hard concept to grasp that it seems so unreal and yet it is real
-------------------- "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." You are God and I am You
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Icelander]
#14547931 - 06/01/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is strange. I don't consider you important at all. Nothing personal, indeed. If you were to die right now how would I know? Other than eventually the lack of posting would become permanent unlike a while back when you supposedly left.
This dude's hair got strange too.
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Powdered_Toastman said: that or just death in general is such a hard concept to grasp that it seems so unreal and yet it is real
Indeed.
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PRONOUNS! The Moody Blues has them!
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Icelander]
#14548588 - 06/01/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think its apart of human nature and evolutionary inheritance to believe you are better able to handle any situation than your companions. Psychological studies have shown that people consistently think they are better looking, more intelligent and physically stronger than your average person, the exception being people battling depression.
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Depression = truth
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: falcon]
#14549618 - 06/02/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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falcon said: PRONOUNS! The Moody Blues has them!
Why do we never get an answer then? Just a Question?
Well to all of you Thank You For Keeping The Faith
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Keep Smiling
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how do you come to watching these films? why do they make these films? do you need to re-evaluate your priorities in the context of each film you see? that might give a lot of power to film makers.
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who are you posting to?
Do you seek power over others in your art?
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redgreenvines said: how do you come to watching these films? why do they make these films? do you need to re-evaluate your priorities in the context of each film you see? that might give a lot of power to film makers.
yes because everytime i watch moody blues live i must re evalute my priorities? lawl
-------------------- "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." You are God and I am You
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Icelander]
#14551677 - 06/02/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I've been watching war documentaries on WWI and WWII.
What's strange is that I, too, have been watching a WWII documentary (which I borrowed from a friend).
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Specificity ain't the Moody Blues.
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Icelander]
#14552647 - 06/02/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think about that sometimes. I have that same deluded thought that 'it can't happen to me.' I do also believe that if you are in tune with yourself properly and you are aware of what is going on around you then you will not die a premature death.
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Jufin]
#14552784 - 06/02/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jufin said: I think about that sometimes. I have that same deluded thought that 'it can't happen to me.' I do also believe that if you are in tune with yourself properly and you are aware of what is going on around you then you will not die a premature death.
Explain to me how you stay "in tune with yourself properly" and how this would have any bearing on when you die. Also, what constitutes a "premature death"?
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: 4896744]
#14552897 - 06/02/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its really hard to explain, and its more of a concept I have than something I truly believe in, but I think that up until this point in my life nothing very bad has happened to me when it surely could have. It makes me think that I'm doing something right. I see some people that don't seem to be in tune with their own spirits and don't really seem very aware of anything that's going on. It's also derived from one of the philosophies Don Juan in the Carlos Castaneda books.
By premature, I mean dying in a car crash, plane crash, freak incidents etc. rather than dying of the body naturally decaying.
As I said, I don't believe in this 100% but its a thought that gives me comfort.
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: Jufin]
#14552982 - 06/02/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Its really hard to explain, and its more of a concept I have than something I truly believe in, but I think that up until this point in my life nothing very bad has happened to me when it surely could have. It makes me think that I'm doing something right. I see some people that don't seem to be in tune with their own spirits and don't really seem very aware of anything that's going on. It's also derived from one of the philosophies Don Juan in the Carlos Castaneda books.
By premature, I mean dying in a car crash, plane crash, freak incidents etc. rather than dying of the body naturally decaying.
As I said, I don't believe in this 100% but its a thought that gives me comfort.
So you admit that it is an unsubstantiated and emotion driven conclusion. I think your better of in the Spirituality and Mysticism forum.
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: 4896744]
#14553059 - 06/02/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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iThink said:
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Jufin said: I think about that sometimes. I have that same deluded thought that 'it can't happen to me.' I do also believe that if you are in tune with yourself properly and you are aware of what is going on around you then you will not die a premature death.
Explain to me how you stay "in tune with yourself properly" and how this would have any bearing on when you die. Also, what constitutes a "premature death"?
For me staying in tune with myself would consist of paying attention to my surroundings and how my body feels rather than locked up in my head most of the time.
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Re: It's so strange. [Re: 4896744]
#14553139 - 06/02/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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iThink said:
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Jufin said: Its really hard to explain, and its more of a concept I have than something I truly believe in, but I think that up until this point in my life nothing very bad has happened to me when it surely could have. It makes me think that I'm doing something right. I see some people that don't seem to be in tune with their own spirits and don't really seem very aware of anything that's going on. It's also derived from one of the philosophies Don Juan in the Carlos Castaneda books.
By premature, I mean dying in a car crash, plane crash, freak incidents etc. rather than dying of the body naturally decaying.
As I said, I don't believe in this 100% but its a thought that gives me comfort.
So you admit that it is an unsubstantiated and emotion driven conclusion. I think your better of in the Spirituality and Mysticism forum.
Haha, maybe so, but it is still a philosophy.
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