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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: druqs]
    #14545549 - 06/01/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can agree with OP except for the images part. I'm all about the videos. I gotta see the look on the girls face when she take a cock the size of her leg.
And I love monster asses.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: druqs]
    #14545558 - 06/01/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never really been into porn at all.

I like classy photos of women in their underwear though. I find it leaves more to the imagination.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14545566 - 06/01/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well, lets see...I guess I've become a bit desensitized over the past 15 years of watching internet porn. But I guess developments can best be described along the lines of different themes.

Subject matter
It used to be mostly mild erotica and panties, but some 8 or 10 years ago I became interested in BDSM and since then I've watched just about anything imaginable within that genre. Current favorite at the moment is self-bondage and bdsm auto-play (solo girls; look up the chimera sets if you're interested), exactly for the reason Wiccan mentions: 99% of the porn is just too fake to be convincingly arousing. I find this is different in some cases within the BDSM genre; it seems that there is a slightly more genuineness in there. Although most of it is still embarrassingly bad acting, some people seem to be quite pure; see e.g. queensnake.net for a good example of people who genuinely seem to be enjoying what they're doing. Don't go there if you have a weak stomach though.

The panties fetish never went away though, and was only enriched with a mild interest in latex.
And I prefer slim brunettes with small tits. Both in real life and in porn.


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Related to the subject matter and as I mentioned above, some sort of desensitization has seemed to take place, although that doesn't tell the full story. I guess there's just two sides to my sexuality: the kinky side that manifests itself in BDSM, and the vanilla side that manifests itself in a taste for mild erotica. The two alternate; at some points, I identify more with the kinky side, and sometimes I'm sick and tired of that stuff and I'm pulled towards the milder stuff with the erotica shots and panties. But I've come to believe that I will probably always be drawn between these two worlds, and that neither will ever go away. Which I don't fret over, as I actually like both sides...



I kinda relate. Im totally into bdsm as a fantasy. I also like to look at photos.

For some reason I really love still shots. I like photos of girls in panties, latex, vinyl, leather, etc.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: Asante]
    #14546843 - 06/01/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hey Wiccan it's June 1st, can I have my PMs back now?


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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: Eminence]
    #14547704 - 06/01/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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hey Wiccan it's June 1st, can I have my PMs back now?





You got it :thumbup:


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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: Asante]
    #14547759 - 06/01/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I made pr0n with my girlfriend. We both enjoy watching it, and it is very fap-worthy seeing as I had experienced it and that experience is held in my memory (including the sensations). I find that our pr0n is some of the best fap material I know of. It has this extra oomph.


Making sextapes to fap to is :awebig:. Sure it is amature, but when your film includes the candlelight and everything and the star is your woman. Ahh, it is just amazing.


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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: willowmp]
    #14547806 - 06/01/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Homemade POV is the shit.


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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14549404 - 06/02/11 04:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I can now pinpoint (no pun intended) what fascinated me in those things, or why they stuck with me for all those years. So what are yours? What are those things you remember from your innocent days that were a forebode of the creepiness that later developed?




Well I have a bunch of hecklers so I won't go in too much detail not to give em too much material but - when I was a kid, the tying up games always were the best kind, especially when, once tied well, the tying party took advantage of the situation, which as kids was pretty innocent (tickling and teasing usually) but as adults you need something extra.

My fondness for authoritarian discourse (though now I usually give it) given the past is obvious, we've all been grilled as kids on stuff we did or didnt do.

You're right, theres markers in very early childhood as who gets to be BDSM and who gets to be vanilla. It often goes along the line of the most bruises, mental andf physical. The rougher the childhood, the greater the inclination towards BDSM.

Stanislav Grof connects BDSM to the Third Perinatal Matrix, the struggle of the baby through the birth canal, the most intense suffering of the birth process. Indeeed, I have many elements of BPM III throughout my life that are not BDSM.


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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: Asante]
    #14554487 - 06/03/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I can now pinpoint (no pun intended) what fascinated me in those things, or why they stuck with me for all those years. So what are yours? What are those things you remember from your innocent days that were a forebode of the creepiness that later developed?




Well I have a bunch of hecklers so I won't go in too much detail not to give em too much material but - when I was a kid, the tying up games always were the best kind, especially when, once tied well, the tying party took advantage of the situation, which as kids was pretty innocent (tickling and teasing usually) but as adults you need something extra.



Yup, very recognizable. I guess ropes are my favorite toy, both because of sensations as well as looks. But it's also perhaps the only fetish I cannot track down to in terms of childhood memories. Maybe it's one of those things where deep down, it's the symbolism that counts for me, and not the physical sensations or aesthetics, even it's those things I get my kicks off these days. But hey, who knows some memory pops up one of these days to fit in with the rest of the puzzle.

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My fondness for authoritarian discourse (though now I usually give it) given the past is obvious, we've all been grilled as kids on stuff we did or didnt do.



Oh yeah. Although I must say I'm not all that fond of words...yes, BDSM talk can be hella arousing, but the line between arousing and annoyingly embarrassing is just so thin.

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You're right, theres markers in very early childhood as who gets to be BDSM and who gets to be vanilla. It often goes along the line of the most bruises, mental andf physical. The rougher the childhood, the greater the inclination towards BDSM.



I have considered that, but ultimately, I think it's not so much the markers themselves, but the importance that an individual attributes to it. There's elements of dominance, subversion, pain, humiliation and abuse in every single childhood; no exceptions. Some of those kids turn out as kinksters, while others don't. But it's the kinksters who start rooting in their childhoods sooner or later and dig up all this mundane stuff which they subsequently hold up, shouting: "see, it was bound to happen; I wasn't born a fetishist/Master/slave/masochist/sadist, it's my childhood that made me this way." There's definitely some sensemaking going on there. In the end, it's all down again to the nature/nurture debate. And I'm always sort of curious as to the nature side of the story. I'm secretly curious if my parents (either? both?) are/were kinksters as well. But obviously, the largest part of me doesn't want to know this at all...While I somewhere like the idea of my parents doing unspeakable things to each other, my dominant response is still :ugh:

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Stanislav Grof connects BDSM to the Third Perinatal Matrix, the struggle of the baby through the birth canal, the most intense suffering of the birth process. Indeeed, I have many elements of BPM III throughout my life that are not BDSM.



That's, uh, deep. But again, nature vs. nurture, and perhaps this hypothesis is on the interface between them.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14554492 - 06/03/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never wanted nor asked to be into bdsm. If I could have those desires removed I glady would.

I guess part of why I dont like "porn" as in the mainstream fuck flicks is that it just isnt kinky enough for me. My imagination does a better job.

Im into some rather strange stuff and there really isnt much out there of what Im into.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14554508 - 06/03/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I never wanted nor asked to be into bdsm. If I could have those desires removed I glady would.



You would? I can relate somehow, but nah, it's different for me. I view my kinkiness as a deliciously sharp and serrated edge to an otherwise seemingly polished and mundane set of desires.

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I guess part of why I dont like "porn" as in the mainstream fuck flicks is that it just isnt kinky enough for me. My imagination does a better job.

Im into some rather strange stuff and there really isnt much out there of what Im into.



Please elaborate? I mean, given rule 34 and all that, I've never run into something I fancied and that hadn't been expressed in porn. Granted, there's not _a lot_ of my favorite stuff out there, but there's a few guys and gals on this globe who seem to be enjoying the unspeakable things I fancy. Btw, one of the places on the net where rule 34 is pretty much taken to the extreme is fetlife.com. As a community, I think it's pretty lame, but it's inspiring to see what fetishes people come up with and how many share those out-there ideas :thumbup:

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14554520 - 06/03/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nope. It's the same as it was back when I was 12.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14554524 - 06/03/11 07:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im actually a member of fetlife. Ive had several women contact me wanting to play(one was even the type Im VERY physically attracted to) but I chickened out and never logged back in.

Ive had the fantasies for a looong time but only ever acted on them alone and in private for the most part.

Some of the things that I HAVE acted on while great as a fantasy turned out to be not so great or desirable when I actually played it out with another person and it kinda killed it for me.

Part of me wants to get over my insecurity and pursue these heinous acts and another part of me feels so disgusted and ashamed of myself for being turned on by it.

I HAVE found porn of much of the weirder stuff Im into (believe me, it's a laundry list) but also not much.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: willowmp]
    #14554538 - 06/03/11 07:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Natorade said:
i almost exclusively watch blowjobs  :shrug:



but then again ive always done that




I never got that. All it is is the dick :shrug:



Yea same here, I never could understand why people loved blowjob pron.




Um, because you want to fantasize about getting a blow job? I really don't want to see some dude touching a woman. I'd rather see a woman touch the guy, and then mentally put myself in that guy's position.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14554551 - 06/03/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Im actually a member of fetlife. Ive had several women contact me wanting to play(one was even the type Im VERY physically attracted to) but I chickened out and never logged back in.



Seriously? I haven't had anyone contact me on FL. Alright, one woman asking something about photoshoots and whatnot, but nothing suggesting personal interest. Then again, I have never taken part in any discussions there, mostly because the closed-mindedness (the irony!) of most of the people there regarding all subjects apart from sex. Shroomerites tend to be more inspiring folks to discuss matters with. Oh and probably it doesn't help that my profile data are not very accurate. Or serious. :grin:
Too bad you chickened out though; I mean, it would have been ok just to tell people you're exploring your sexuality and that if they're looking for an experienced play mate to do specific things with, to look further? Surely there are other inexperienced people looking for equally inexperienced but sincere play mates.

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Some of the things that I HAVE acted on while great as a fantasy turned out to be not so great or desirable when I actually played it out with another person and it kinda killed it for me.



How come? I recognize that, but that was mostly down to the fact that I was a bit ahead of my sexual partners in terms of BDSM. At least in terms of desires/limits. But the things that did fit in the criterion of mutual consent, I found those definitely worthwhile.

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Part of me wants to get over my insecurity and pursue these heinous acts and another part of me feels so disgusted and ashamed of myself for being turned on by it.



Yup. I dig. Although the shame has been eroding over the past few years. Fuck that shit, I'm a creep and I love it! There's loads of creepettes out there for me to meet, so let's all be creepy together! As long as it's all in good understanding and mutual consent, there's nothing to be ashamed of.

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I HAVE found porn of much of the weirder stuff Im into (believe me, it's a laundry list) but also not much.



You understand that posting of said list is increasingly becoming an issue that cannot be stepped over this lightly, right? :whip:

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14554570 - 06/03/11 07:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never really partook in any discussions...I just had a bunch of hot women in my area messaging me out of nowhere. On no other website have I encountered that and in a way it intimidated me that they were so cavalier and eager.
Usually when I tell a girl about my fantasies she runs away.

I think if I was friends with the person first and had some history and trust built up it would be a little easier for me.

It's hard for me to tie up a stranger, piss on her, choke her, call her a fat dirty whore and put a blow torch near her vagina watching her squirm...and much harder for me to let her to tie me up and do similar acts.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14554591 - 06/03/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I see what you mean. BDSM requires a basis of trust. But isn't it nice to meet up with someone in the knowledge that they're just about as kinky as you are? And maybe (probably) not play on the first date, but just chat over a cup of coffee, hear each other out, get used to each other's personality, and then build from there. Every journey begins with the first step. And that step never takes you directly to your destination.

Btw, that's some kinky shit right there. Nice! Don't forget the candle wax though :thumbup:

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14554609 - 06/03/11 08:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Candle wax is fun...but I did that with my first girlfriend in 9th grade...I want to delve a little deeper into the thresholds of pain.

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14554634 - 06/03/11 08:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Luckily, there's lots of people into that. Most aren't, obviously, but many are. The candle wax is more of a visual thing for me, btw, it's not so much about the pain. Ever given nettles a try? They allow for scaling up pain of levels during play very nicely, which is aided by the variety of the species (different life stages of the plant, different species, different plant parts...)

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Re: has your porn preference changed over time? [Re: koraks]
    #14554832 - 06/03/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thats so awesome, turns out the three of us are fetlifers :Awemazing:

Trust can take many guises Koraks, negotiations can be done in character of the session and it becomes total mayhem then with the right people. Being contacted on fetlife is as simple as fleshing out your profile explicitly and being seen in the discussion groups.

OK for cybering is a lot easier, I often fly on instruments, only knowing they are adults, knowing nothing else like gender, age etc and lettingf things flow from there.

Of course theres no crusty herpes in cyber, that helps too :smile:

Mr Muscaria are you an Up Quark or a Down Quark? (or a Strangelet like me who takes it as it comes, up or down)

Dont neglect the afterphase gentlemen! Thyats THE phase that can make or break the session in retrospect.

Ey Koraks, shouldnt you be uppercase Koraks? I'll case you up if you like as a freebie :smile:


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