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LSA into LSH
    #14547185 - 06/01/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I know mixing peppermint oil with lsa is supposed to do this what i want to know is what is the actual chemical equation in this format would be nice

chemical formula(common name)+chemical formula(common name)=chemical formula(common name) ect.

ex:6H2O(water)+6CO2(carbon dioxide)=1C6H12O6(glucose)+6O2(oxygen)


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: rooster22]
    #14547414 - 06/01/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The proposed reaction, which most chemists on the board agree to be unfavorable, is:

C16H17N3O + CH3CHO > C18H21N3O2

LSA + acetaldehyde > LSH

Peppermint/mint is used because it is high in acetaldehyde.
Ethanol may or may not make the result more stable.


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14547669 - 06/01/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

by unfavorable do you mean not correct?


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: rooster22]
    #14547693 - 06/01/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

why even do that, when a straight acid/base extraction or a non-polar/polar feels damn so good?


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: rooster22]
    #14547760 - 06/01/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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rooster22 said:
by unfavorable do you mean not correct?




there is no objective evidence that LSH is really produced. it's really speculation.
"unfavorable" basically means that the reaction would not happen without energy input.
there's a very long thread on this in Chemistry & Pharmacology forum when it opens up to you.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/92


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14547793 - 06/01/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:

"unfavorable" basically means that the reaction would not happen without energy input.






so would there be a way to make sure there was an energy input


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: smiley69]
    #14547800 - 06/01/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

because it is supposed to decrease bodyload and be more visual


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: rooster22]
    #14547814 - 06/01/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:

"unfavorable" basically means that the reaction would not happen without energy input.






so would there be a way to make sure there was an energy input




well, i'm no chemist, but as I understand it, that's French for "the reaction wouldn't happen under normal circumstances."

anyhow, i tried the peppermint method once. had a very good experience with it. although it's tough to rule out the effect of placebo.

I was going to try this next:
http://bit.ly/dbcPPq


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Re: LSA into LSH [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14547844 - 06/01/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

looks cool let me know if it works are you going to add anything?
also would just taking some peppermint oil pills with the lsa work in the same way its just i have them for my ibs and it would be simpler


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