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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Inner Eye]
    #14536429 - 05/30/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How long 'til the recorded video is streaming free online? That's really all I care about. I'm broke so I'm definitely not gonna pay to video-chat with these guys, but nonetheless, I do care what they have to say. Any word on if the video will be released free of charge after-the-fact?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: laserpig]
    #14536957 - 05/30/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nice, thanks for sharing will def be attending digitally


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: drpain27]
    #14539122 - 05/31/11 03:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hidden display for child pornography, deep in the inner layers of the society. More likely to get access if you are a paid member.

It's also risky to trade with the members there, some people there have very sick minds, go check it out for yourself. Thieves, or people sending you something similar to anthrax, the list just goes on. The members doing this are protected/trusted/moderators also, not just normal randoms.

This site desperately needs shutting down, it is garbage and the people who run it are complete trash.


They used to send you foul (toxic) stuff, then rating rape you with multi-accounts to make it seem like no one liked you, then ban you. They would also manually edit your posts to drop the credibility of it, when you posted about what is happening they would pretty much delete it to cover it up and restrict posting privelages. They would turn that detailed truthful post into a three letter garbage post. You only realize this when you have been victimized.



They could have killed people without anyone knowing the cause of the death really.

Shut them down, The moderators support this behavior when you tell them about it they say tell someone who cares.

This is not the place you want your kids or family on all kinds of fraudulent activities going on.





what you think?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan] * 4
    #14539880 - 05/31/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ugh, Daniel Pinchbeck is such a ponce. I wish this course was elsewhere, because I will never ever give him or his psychedelic Facebook any of my money.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14539999 - 05/31/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The Whale said:
First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!






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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: backinblack]
    #14540710 - 05/31/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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backinblack said:
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Hidden display for child pornography, deep in the inner layers of the society. More likely to get access if you are a paid member.

It's also risky to trade with the members there, some people there have very sick minds, go check it out for yourself. Thieves, or people sending you something similar to anthrax, the list just goes on. The members doing this are protected/trusted/moderators also, not just normal randoms.

This site desperately needs shutting down, it is garbage and the people who run it are complete trash.


They used to send you foul (toxic) stuff, then rating rape you with multi-accounts to make it seem like no one liked you, then ban you. They would also manually edit your posts to drop the credibility of it, when you posted about what is happening they would pretty much delete it to cover it up and restrict posting privelages. They would turn that detailed truthful post into a three letter garbage post. You only realize this when you have been victimized.



They could have killed people without anyone knowing the cause of the death really.

Shut them down, The moderators support this behavior when you tell them about it they say tell someone who cares.

This is not the place you want your kids or family on all kinds of fraudulent activities going on.





what you think?




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14540804 - 05/31/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like he met his pledge goal.  :whatever:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #14541050 - 05/31/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Penguarky Tunguin said:
Looks like he met his pledge goal.  :whatever:




Yep :feelsgoodman:

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 2
    #14543089 - 05/31/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I really would like to know more about what Dennis has been up to. I know he's done a lot of botanical work and such and I'm sure it's all been very important. I just wish he didn't have to pitch himself as Terence's brother to get any attention.

But yeah, paying that much for a video conference is kinda fucking crazy. Pinchbeck is a bit of a jizzmop when it comes to this sort of stuff. Always arranging expensive fucking aya retreats, workshops, etc. I'm sorry but I'm not THAT privileged and white that I'll pay that much money to listen to someone TALK about drugs, or travel to another country to do drugs that I could just as easily order in the mail.

This generation of psychedelic gurus is pretty disappointing.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14543097 - 05/31/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's all about the :money:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14543109 - 05/31/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Pinchbeck has a fabulous headshot, by the way - Terence McKenna never looked so gritty and morose yet noble and defiant.



:emo::emo:

Edited by Tchan909 (05/31/11 10:28 PM)

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InvisibleMad_Larkin

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14543241 - 05/31/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's because he wasn't a ponce.

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14545968 - 06/01/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I really would like to know more about what Dennis has been up to. I know he's done a lot of botanical work and such and I'm sure it's all been very important. I just wish he didn't have to pitch himself as Terence's brother to get any attention.

But yeah, paying that much for a video conference is kinda fucking crazy. Pinchbeck is a bit of a jizzmop when it comes to this sort of stuff. Always arranging expensive fucking aya retreats, workshops, etc. I'm sorry but I'm not THAT privileged and white that I'll pay that much money to listen to someone TALK about drugs, or travel to another country to do drugs that I could just as easily order in the mail.

This generation of psychedelic gurus is pretty disappointing.




It's getting harder to trump the previous explorers with intellectual girth, ballsy attitudes, and impressive track records with publishing/traveling/exploring.

In my meager opinion, we have beat a dead horse by analyzing the shit out of this psychedelic caboose - applying every label, philosophy, and allegory within arms reach without sounding cooky. The only two things left to do are: 1) consume them and have the subjective experience sans rulebook and excessive guidelines, and 2) follow Shulgin's path and unearth some more of these magic tricks. The rest is just story telling. Then again, this seems to be one big story, so why not.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14546013 - 06/01/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Until mainstream society latches onto the healing potential of psychedelics (in the process of happening IMO) we're just going to have to keep exploring our relationship with them by categorizing novel ones, recording our experiences, and finding new ways to use them. IE option #2. And by the time the shrinks and the clinics finally catch up with what we've known all this time we'll be sought-after journeymen of the no-longer-forbidden arts.

Pardon my delusions of grandeur but I think there is legitimate possibility it will pan out like this :lol:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14546051 - 06/01/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
Until mainstream society latches onto the healing potential of psychedelics (in the process of happening IMO) we're just going to have to keep exploring our relationship with them by categorizing novel ones, recording our experiences, and finding new ways to use them. IE option #2. And by the time the shrinks and the clinics finally catch up with what we've known all this time we'll be sought-after masters of the no-longer-forbidden arts.

Pardon my delusions of grandeur but I think there is legitimate possibility it will pan out like this :lol:




This is the directions MAPS is pushing for.

It functions primarily by a) appealing to authority (PhDs and MDs discussing drugs is more socially tolerable), and b) like you said, indicating their medical and psychotherapeutic value (again, mere reiterations of a millennia-old tradition; spool irony).

But, launching this boat even further into the future, I think an ideal way to see all this unfold is towards the appreciation of psychonautism for its own sake: to map consciousness, the soul and archetypes, synchronicities, Psi phenomena, etc. Puking and shitting out negativity while the ayahuasca-derived serotonin massages your karmic turds is well and good: our society is sick as fuck - I mean, we're at WAR less we forget. Still, whenever I get all visionary I lean towards the Hedweb/Hedonistic Imperative/Abolitionist/Utopian Pharmacology of David Pearce. We'll eventually use these compounds to hack the mind, and hopefully one day overcome our need to re-live childhood trauma and the curious fascination that a mushroom looks like a wee wee.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14546081 - 06/01/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

All things in baby steps. Once psychedelics are accepted rather than feared by society at large, more complex and organized undertakings can begin. I agree with you that psychedelics are a key instrument of a transhuman future.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14546102 - 06/01/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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All things in baby steps. Once psychedelics are accepted rather than feared by society at large, more complex and organized undertakings can begin. I agree with you that psychedelics are a key instrument of a transhuman future.




Baby steps indeed.

We're still debating legalizing a fucking harmless plant that, at its most threatening, gives you mild euphoria.

Long road we got here, folks.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14546575 - 06/01/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wish my brother was a dead famous insane man so I could make money selling bullshit to assholes.

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14547156 - 06/01/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What exactly is being healed?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: xFrockx] * 1
    #14547210 - 06/01/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I wish my brother was a dead famous insane man so I could make money selling bullshit to assholes.




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