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Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth.
#14547010 - 06/01/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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13 Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”
15 And the Lord said,"If Cain is put to death, seven lives will be taken for his." And the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one might put him to death.
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Cain in the direct descendant of Adam and Eve.
In this passage he is being punished by the supposed god of the bible for killing his own brother.
At the moment, if you take the bible literally there are only 3 people living on the earth; cain, adam and eve.
Now for a break down; if it was true that cain complained to god about his punishment and god assured cain revenge if murdered, how can god kill seven people, (to avenge cains death) if only three people exist?
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14547027 - 06/01/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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How can you hide from an Omniscient Being?
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14547039 - 06/01/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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And the verse following it, shows that any suspicion raised on my first post is procured.
16 So Cain went out from the LORD’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch. 18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech.
If god made adam and eve the first humans and cain/abel the third and fourth, where did cain find a wife to make love to.
I guesse according to the bible, we are descendants of incestuous relations between cain and his mother eve.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14547051 - 06/01/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cain did his mom.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14547064 - 06/01/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Apparently Eve was the first cougar ever to grace gods great earth.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14547068 - 06/01/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: How can you hide from an Omniscient Being?
Impossible, he knows everything.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14547070 - 06/01/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14547729 - 06/01/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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and I will be hidden from your presence
How is showing his power through jesus, hidden?
Thats a flat out lie.
I mean whats with the double standard, 2000 years ago some dude was fucking maybe water into wine and reviving the dead - yet 200 generations of people later and still not miracles, yet everyone gets judged equally.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14547895 - 06/01/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gee,
do you think,
just maybe,
its a,
FUCKING FAIRY TALE?
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: Icelander]
#14547952 - 06/01/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya i dont see the bible as anything more than a good bed time story XD
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: Powdered_Toastman]
#14548372 - 06/01/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Powdered_Toastman said: ya i dont see the bible as anything more than a good bed time story XD
Have you read the Bible? It's a fucking awful read.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: 4896744]
#14548478 - 06/01/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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iThink said:
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Powdered_Toastman said: ya i dont see the bible as anything more than a good bed time story XD
Have you read the Bible? It's a fucking awful read. 
i say again, good bed time story lol
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: Icelander]
#14549140 - 06/02/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said: Gee,
do you think,
just maybe,
its a,
FUCKING FAIRY TALE?
Lets just say I haven't quite re-wired my brain about it just yet and I am done with pulling the cover over on it.
It is still quite nice to know that hell doesn't exist, under any reasons/circumstance.
And everytime I hit a snag in the bible, it gives a little release a mental orgasm.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14549240 - 06/02/11 02:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: And everytime I hit a snag in the bible, it gives a little release a mental orgasm.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14549542 - 06/02/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
AlphaFalfa said:
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Icelander said: Gee,
do you think,
just maybe,
its a,
FUCKING FAIRY TALE?
Lets just say I haven't quite re-wired my brain about it just yet and I am done with pulling the cover over on it.
It is still quite nice to know that hell doesn't exist, under any reasons/circumstance.
And everytime I hit a snag in the bible, it gives a little release a mental orgasm.

I went through the same process and it took most of my life.
Carry on.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: Icelander]
#14550821 - 06/02/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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This topic reminds me of this response from a Catholic priest on how Cain managed to reproduce :L:
I remember reading this one theory, that as within the book of genesis, the creation of humans is explained twice. It was with that in mind, a theory was suggested that God created life on Earth as well as life on Eden. I cannot seem to find the source on google where I read this atm..
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: Fronnis]
#14550947 - 06/02/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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That priest obviously doesn't have a clue how to relate one phenomena to another.
Asking if adam and eve had belly buttons would be relatable to asking what skin color they have, not how they reproduced. Also, we know how eve reproduces because god makes reference to eve's childbirth process, when he states that he will punish all woman and make birth painful because she didn't follow gods golden rule.
Were talking about a single fact that the bible contradicts itself, which is easily found relating the two facts that adam and eve were the first humans and that they had two sons, plus in the next the paragraph where it says; Cain took a wife.
Putting all those together, you would have to ignore/pretend in order to still believed that adam and eve were the first humans on earth.
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Re: Genesis 4 :13-15 - Bibilical proof that Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. [Re: NetDiver]
#14550963 - 06/02/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said:
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AlphaFalfa said: And everytime I hit a snag in the bible, it gives a little release a mental orgasm.

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