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10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed?
    #14546608 - 06/01/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hello, i have a 10'x15'(x8' high) fruiting chamber in my basement.  I have already cover everything in poly plastic and sealed it up. I have fish safe pond liner on the floor as this room used to be a dirt floor root cellar.  My question is do i need a floor drain, or is some standing H20 on the floor ok, if i mop it up maybe every week?  I humidify using the small mushroom humidifan from fungi perfecti, and i hand water on occasion for the fun of it using a pump sprayer.  Any help is greatly appreciated :cool:


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14546612 - 06/01/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14547221 - 06/01/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have about the same size FC in my basement, with a US humidifier that I have set to run 45 minutes on, 30 minutes off continually.  It will last about a day, and needs more water.  I like that a little water accumulates on the floor, because it keeps the FC humid even when I'm lazy and forget to refill the humidifier.  So, no, I wouldn't worry about any excess water... it's like a reserve that lets you go for a little extra time.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14547686 - 06/01/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

curry, thats what i was thinking.  It adds extra humidity having h2o on the floor.  My only concern is the stagnant water on the floor creating breeding grounds for bugs and contaminants. Do you have any issues whit this?  Do you mop/squeegee up the h20 on the floor ever or no?





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I dont thinks pics are necessary for the question at hand lol, but ill go down and take some pics tonight; after i clean some buckets for tomorrows straw run.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14547978 - 06/01/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'd say to put in a floor drain so you can get rid of the pump sprayer and use a water hose.
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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14549934 - 06/02/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Water hose for humidification; I imagine they make some kind of fine-mist attachment for water hoses?

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That's what I was about to ask until I looked it up and found http://compare.ebay.com/like/220597636172?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&nbsp; that.  A few of those bad boys in a fairly enclosed space would be great but that'd really work best with a concrete room.

I'm in a drywall and carpeted room that I'm renting and decided to use one of these:  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6253761#6253761

Due to the extremely fine mist which translates to much more efficient translation of water/vapor to RH instead of the other side of the scale with stale/stagnant water lying around.


I do have access to a basement and it's indeed about the same size as the rooms/partitions being mentioned here, around 15X20X8 or so.  Unfortunately that entire basement is beset by mold and I'd have to rip out large portions of the basement and clear it of items (maybe 2 days work for a couple guys) and then replace the damaged sections of wall in order to make the room tenable for growing at all.


Do previously mold-afflicted rooms hold promise for growing under the condition that the spawn and the inoculation procedure take place at a different location, one that's been known to have a high rate of success?  If I do everything up to making straw logs at a known good location and them aerating them with a sharp instrument and then transporting them to my basement grow room that was once mold-afflicted (but has had all the old moldy areas removed, and has been cleaned thoroughly with soap and water) would that location become potentially suitable?

I should mention that the mold was strong enough that a clear and (for me) distracting odor was present.  Not so much so that a mask *must* be worn but I wouldn't let a child down there.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Humility]
    #14549969 - 06/02/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Humidity is easy to get.  The problem with substrate blocks is replacing the moisture that evaporates from them in order to get a good flush.  That's why I use a water hose, but obviously that isn't going to work in a house-type setting.  Substrate blocks dry out a lot during first flush and you need a way to replace this moisture.  I use a garden hose with my thumb over the end to direct a strong spray right on them.  This helps the water to penetrate, and the shock of the stream of water is a major pinning trigger with shiitake. 

For more delicate fruits such as oyster mushrooms, a fine spray is better, but I would hate to work with anything bigger than a small mini-greenhouse without a floor drain.
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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14550110 - 06/02/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

RR, yeah a drain would be really nice in my grow room.  Fortunately i only have it partially filled, so now is the time to add the drain before i fill it to its full capacity.

I dont have enough money to add a professional floor drain that drains to the outside(at least i dont think so, if anyone has any tips or DIY for this let me know), but i was thinking of sinking a tote/bucket into the ground with a removable screen on it and empty it out by a submersible pump.  To keep the contams at bay in this standing water drain i could add some H202.  What do yall think; or should i try anything i can to get a real floor drain?


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14550150 - 06/02/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the clarification RR.


Aleon - I dunno, that solution there sounds pretty efficient.  Personally I'd use bleach rather than H202 but the latter is definitely safer for the end consumer (even if only minimally, minutely even perhaps).


I like that a lot.  You'd need some kind of hole in the floor though...

You use the word "ground"; I don't understand, this is inside right, in a basement?  How will you "sink" a tote down?


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14550320 - 06/02/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The floor is dirt, and i covered it w/ pond liner.  Its an old root cellar.  I could easily remove the pond liner, dig a hole, and drop the bucket in.  Many homes in the country have dirt floor root cellars in the basement.  And, im not using bleach for this, the by product of h202 is h20 and O. Much safer for the environment over the long term than bleach.  I only use bleach when there has been a serious contam issue.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14552820 - 06/02/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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curry, thats what i was thinking.  It adds extra humidity having h2o on the floor.  My only concern is the stagnant water on the floor creating breeding grounds for bugs and contaminants. Do you have any issues whit this?  Do you mop/squeegee up the h20 on the floor ever or no?


My floor is concrete so bugs is no concern, and extra water just dries up every day.  I like RR's approach with the hose, so I can see how a drain would be useful... but in your situation, you can always add a drain later if you want I guess.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: curry]
    #14554549 - 06/03/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

if u are using h202 as a desinfectant for the whole closed area, be aware that it may "overfill" the air with O2, and that is a bit dangerous (pure O2 is quite good at exploding)


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: kurshiukas]
    #14554610 - 06/03/11 08:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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if u are using h202 as a desinfectant for the whole closed area, be aware that it may "overfill" the air with O2, and that is a bit dangerous (pure O2 is quite good at exploding)




Thanks for the tip, but im not worried about that.  I have the room positive pressurized with a 350cfm fan and a small "vortex fan" thats 100cfm for the outtake fan.  SO much fresh air, it feels like im by a waterfall or in a forest or something lol.  When my allergies kick up, ill go into the fruiting chamber (b4 the oysters drop their spore load) and after 5 minutes i can breath again due to the high quality air and filtration. :cool:


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14710743 - 07/03/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

After the discussion on this thread i DID add a floor drain.  And i can now see why using a hose really is the way to go.  Here are pictures. Right now i have the pump on a timer, but im going to buy a sump pump w/ a built in float switch soon for automated pumping. The hose runs above the ceiling in my basement to the laundry room, either for drainage, or for recollection to use in the garden.







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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14711814 - 07/03/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

That's a good looking grow room right there.  I'm curious though, as i'm currently trying to source some plastic sheeting, for an 'outdoor' grow room (under some decking), do i really need panda film or would clear be better?

And is there a preferred tape? Duct vs gaffer?  I feel, but don't know, that gaffer would better handle temperature fluctuations.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: NSF]
    #14711957 - 07/03/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

For an outdoor spot, i would do clear if its in the shade, or panda with windows made of clear plastic(to allow some light) if its in the sun.  IMO at least 4mil plastic thickness should be used.  Gorilla tape.  I started using it a few years back for more permanent duct tape projects, and i was sold.  I think some of the gorilla glue is in the tape making it super sticky, the stuff is intense.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14712716 - 07/03/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

4 mm thick plastic?! What?! That's as thick as glass!!!  I didn't know plastic sheet came that thick! 

Thanks for the heads up on gorilla tape.  I've never heard of it before.  Is it overkill for just stickin two smooth pieces of plastic together?  Because they sell it as great for sticking to bricks and other rough surfaces.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: NSF]
    #14713487 - 07/03/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

He means 4 mil plastic.  That's what I used for my indoor grow room.  Instead of taping it together, I used an iron to seal it together... it looks a little more professional, and you don't have to worry about tape wearing off over time.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: curry]
    #14714674 - 07/04/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey curry can you go into depth about how you sealed with iron, im always looking for improvements.  I was also wondering about the option of heat sealing the seams together with a sealer or something.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: Aleon]
    #14718226 - 07/04/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

To seal plastic sheeting on the ground it's easy.  Just overlap the sheeting a few inches, cover the overlap with a piece of paper, and iron over the paper for maybe 5 seconds.  It's a little trickier with hanging plastic sheeting.  I taped a piece of paper onto my iron, and then used a flat piece of shelving as a back to iron the hanging plastic.

I used my 20" PE tubing to make my FC.  I cut it on one side, so it becomes 40" wide.  Then I just ironed some pieces together on the floor, and others I had to iron in place.  Hope anything here helped.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain needed? [Re: curry]
    #14719338 - 07/05/11 07:58 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Cool idea curry, ill have to look into that.  Heat treatment with gorilla tape may be a good combo.


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Re: 10'x15' fruting chamber; floor drain update [Re: Aleon]
    #15882433 - 02/29/12 06:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm having the exact same issue right now with the 8'x10' fruiting chamber I built with no floor drain. I have pond liner covering a concrete floor (rental house). Any updates on your system, Aleon?


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