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Psychedelatry
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Trips and the concept of God
#14542599 - 05/31/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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For Theists, Atheists, Pantheists etc. : Would be nice if kind folks, of whatever persuasion, could tell me about their encounters with the concept of god whilst tripping. Could they also say whether they were raised as theist/atheist/pantheist/agnostic etc.
Interested as to how this factor effects subjective experiences on this topic...
[very dissociated, so not sure if this makes much sense right now]
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Buckeye Oysters
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In my opinion, although I have never had a trip where I talked to God, is that people experience is not real but like a very vivid dream. Yes it may be intense and feel realer than life itself and you may feel you have gained wisdom, etc from the experience, but it didn't happen in reality.
Also, I would contend that no person can actually see God, as God is 'everything everywhere at all times'. That is why there is the son of God, Jesus, that is the voice of the everything. Now I will say that people CAN see Jesus, as the Holy Spirit, during tripping or religious experience. You might not believe me, but I have seen the Holy Spirit during a very intense trip where I knocked on my upstairs neighbor's door in the middle of the night (almost all of this involuntarily) began speaking in tongues to her and grabbed her hand to which she transformed into a 'higher self' (the Holy Spirit). She was an old worn lady with a good heart, but what I saw was a divine and bright version of her being. The Holy Spirit is in all of us, hidden or shown, no matter what we believe.
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Psychedelatry
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Buckeye Oysters said: In my opinion, although I have never had a trip where I talked to God, is that people experience is not real but like a very vivid dream. Yes it may be intense and feel realer than life itself and you may feel you have gained wisdom, etc from the experience, but it didn't happen in reality.
Also, I would contend that no person can actually see God, as God is 'everything everywhere at all times'. That is why there is the son of God, Jesus, that is the voice of the everything. Now I will say that people CAN see Jesus, as the Holy Spirit, during tripping or religious experience. You might not believe me, but I have seen the Holy Spirit during a very intense trip where I knocked on my upstairs neighbor's door in the middle of the night (almost all of this involuntarily) began speaking in tongues to her and grabbed her hand to which she transformed into a 'higher self' (the Holy Spirit). She was an old worn lady with a good heart, but what I saw was a divine and bright version of her being. The Holy Spirit is in all of us, hidden or shown, no matter what we believe.
I once saw Jesus in a dream. In my dream I woke up in my bed only to see red light beaming in through the blinds over my windows. I looked outside and the sky was blood red with black clouds soaring past. I didn't see anything thing else moving and then, there came Jesus, running down my sidewalk giving orders on a walky-talky! He ran right across and then left my field of vision. A bit confused, I walked out of my room and into the bathroom. I intended to use the toilet but it was not there. In its place was a blue swirling vortex on the floor. I then tossed my cat in and watched her swirl out of existence.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Trips and the concept of God [Re: Satyapriya]
#14544509 - 06/01/11 06:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks guys!! All vital evidence for the thesis.
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God is simply your consciousness in its infinite purity... when there is no thought of not-God, there is God - everywhere. That is to imply that yes, you are God...
I was raised a Catholic and went to Catholic primary and secondary schools. You might already know, they'd reject this outright, because they are just some idiots floundering in Maya.
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Psychedelatry said: For Theists, Atheists, Pantheists etc. : Would be nice if kind folks, of whatever persuasion, could tell me about their encounters with the concept of god whilst tripping. Could they also say whether they were raised as theist/atheist/pantheist/agnostic etc.
Interested as to how this factor effects subjective experiences on this topic...
[very dissociated, so not sure if this makes much sense right now]
When I trip I dont think about god unless its DMT then I see gods. I ting the concept of one beingness being god is ridiculous. How can there be an infinite creator that is 1 being?
Anyway raised pseudo Christian, grew up atheist and only in my late teen years have I become spiritual.
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Edited by Seanfu (06/01/11 12:02 PM)
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Re: Trips and the concept of God [Re: Satyapriya]
#14545838 - 06/01/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shrooomtastic said:
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Buckeye Oysters said: In my opinion, although I have never had a trip where I talked to God, is that people experience is not real but like a very vivid dream. Yes it may be intense and feel realer than life itself and you may feel you have gained wisdom, etc from the experience, but it didn't happen in reality.
Also, I would contend that no person can actually see God, as God is 'everything everywhere at all times'. That is why there is the son of God, Jesus, that is the voice of the everything. Now I will say that people CAN see Jesus, as the Holy Spirit, during tripping or religious experience. You might not believe me, but I have seen the Holy Spirit during a very intense trip where I knocked on my upstairs neighbor's door in the middle of the night (almost all of this involuntarily) began speaking in tongues to her and grabbed her hand to which she transformed into a 'higher self' (the Holy Spirit). She was an old worn lady with a good heart, but what I saw was a divine and bright version of her being. The Holy Spirit is in all of us, hidden or shown, no matter what we believe.
I once saw Jesus in a dream. In my dream I woke up in my bed only to see red light beaming in through the blinds over my windows. I looked outside and the sky was blood red with black clouds soaring past. I didn't see anything thing else moving and then, there came Jesus, running down my sidewalk giving orders on a walky-talky! He ran right across and then left my field of vision. A bit confused, I walked out of my room and into the bathroom. I intended to use the toilet but it was not there. In its place was a blue swirling vortex on the floor. I then tossed my cat in and watched her swirl out of existence.
Hope this helps.
Da fuck? Where is you cat now? I admit I lol'd hard..
And what is real/reality? I dont think brain makes any difference, any experience to it is real. So there is no real or unreal - God. God is everything and is everywhere, IMO. Imagination and hallucinations included. Even as I write these words I write them from God, to God, on God.. while God was sitting on the ceiling 
Its just while tripping we tend to let go of ego, and process these words in different manner. I talk with god every time time I trip.. and every time while Im sober.
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