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CALI Mushroom Grow Kit
    #14545684 - 06/01/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys, long time no chat. Been super busy with life lately. Anyway I was wondering if any of you have any experience with the CALI 1 Step Easy Deluxe Mushroom Kit?
I am looking at buying one and would like any input you guys could give me about it, I am hoping at least one person here as used one of these kits or has a friend that has used one. I would really appreciate any first hand info or any opinions you experts out there can give me. Here is a link to what I am talking about.

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Please let me know what you think of this kit or if you know of a better less expensive setup that will produce large quantities please let me know about that too.

Thank for your time, it's much appreciated,
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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14545808 - 06/01/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14545881 - 06/01/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Start by watching the PF tek here: www.mushroomvideos.com

then, start by Using The Search Function here: www.shroomery.org

Now, read, read & read until your eyes bleed.

Then, read some more.

Next, go buy your supplies & obtain a spore syringe or print from a trusted sponsor.

You're just asking for trouble by buying these pre-maid jars. I don't trust how long they keep them nor their sterile tek during it...

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14545965 - 06/01/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well I usually use premade MycoBags but can't seem to find any for sale at a decent price. I have used many bags before and never had a problem, but I am not sure how well those premade jars will be. Can anyone point me toward a source of premade bags in the 3-5 LB range? I want to knock-up and fruit from the bags like I have done in the past. Thanks guys


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14545981 - 06/01/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

a few sponsors sell them.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14545985 - 06/01/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

mycosupply.com has bags, I havent checked prices in awhile but they are usually reasonable and have very good quality stuff. Plus you are supporting a fellow Shroomery member when you purchase from them.

You might even want to check out eBay

I would steer clear of any kits. They are a waste of money, you can usually find the individual components and piece them together for cheaper than what the kit will cost you. That's why companies make kits.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #14546004 - 06/01/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah but I need a pressure cooker which I have yet to find a cheap one plus one of those bag sealers etc. From what I have seen all that stuff is really spendy


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14546012 - 06/01/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok I will check the sponsors out. Hopefully they have what I need, any links anyone can send to sponsor sights that can show me what to look for would be greatly appreciated


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14546023 - 06/01/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How have you used bags before without an impulse sealer?

You can find cheap PC's a lot of places. eBay, thrift stores, garage sales, ect. I would definitely buy a used one if you can. They usually hold up well. If you can find a cheaper All-American, I would definitely snatch it up.

I remember finding a AA- 41 1/2 qt. for 180$. I used it for a couple years then resold it for 240$

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit *DELETED* [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #14546036 - 06/01/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: john6886]
    #14546130 - 06/01/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

But I have been told the PF Tek has a pretty low yield compared to some other methods like rye berry or bird seed starts being used to seed a cake pan and then casing it. Am I wrong or misinformed? Because I need volume volume volume


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14546136 - 06/01/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

BRF per weight yields more than spawned to bulk grain.

It just takes A LOT of PF cakes to equal 1 mono in weight :lol:


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14546180 - 06/01/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, well I was toying with the idea of Orissa India, but will PF Tek be able to support suck a massive fruit?


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14546278 - 06/01/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

BRF all the way.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: onebee]
    #14547073 - 06/01/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You can pretty much buy everything in that kit other than the substate at walmart for half the cost. get some flour and verm and boil yer jars and you are good.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14547334 - 06/01/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Start by watching the PF tek here: www.mushroomvideos.com

then, start by Using The Search Function here: www.shroomery.org

Now, read, read & read until your eyes bleed.

Then, read some more.

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You're just asking for trouble by buying these pre-maid jars. I don't trust how long they keep them nor their sterile tek during it...

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14547368 - 06/01/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Lol at the page title. This isn't the right place for this anyway///

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Breakfast Crew]
    #14547453 - 06/01/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #14552751 - 06/02/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok after listening to all your advice (thanks btw) I have decided to go for BRF using 24 1 pint jars. I just hope the BRF is strong enough to keep the Orissa India rooted if I manage to get some monsters from it. I also picked up a a 17 Qt Pressure Canner today with all the accessories for 40 bucks. If anyone has anymore advice for me I would greatly appreciate it. The strains I plan to knock up on this grow (my 4th grow) are Cambodian, Orissa India, Lipa Yai, Australian, Amazon, Ban Phang Ka, Dancing Tiger, Hawaiian, Palenque, and Tasmanian. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks. Does ANYONE have any input on this? Will it work, fail? Anything?


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    #14554442 - 06/03/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: john6886]
    #14554727 - 06/03/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

why buy a kit? you have this site and best of all...us :cool:

i looked at the kit and just no, no, no.  i'm sorry, i don't mean to be rude.  it's just that i've been embittered by kits and the people who sell them.  Years ago, probably around 10, i bought a bunch of expensive stuff from "the keeper".  i know i know, what a mistake.  you all remember that guy? btw, never buy anything from him, ever!

anyway what i don't like about kits, especially the ones that come with pre-made jars, is that your taking out the thrill of the hunt.  it's more fun to find all that stuff yourself. plus you know how do it from then on, which is very important imho.  anyway i hope my ranting hasn't offended you, and gl


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: sage1o1]
    #14554750 - 06/03/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yo! i purchased something similar to this deal from the same supplier and when it arrived i inoculated the brf jars that are supposedly pre sterilized and some bulk grain with the same syringe. All the brf cakes grew trichoderma and the grain colonized with rizos. just a word of warning make sure you pasteurize the pre-mixed brf jars or they will grow trich 99% of the time.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: pcnubie]
    #14554856 - 06/03/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

the picture on that link with mushrooms looks awfuly familiar X_x


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Anarchyfest]
    #14558026 - 06/03/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not getting the kit. I got 5 dozen 1 pint wide mouth jars, BRF, verm, rye berries, cracked corn, popcorn, birdseed, wheat straw, gypsum and some dehydrated hpoo. Along with a 17 quart pressure canner and a huge closet with a shelf system to put my clear plastic totes that I converted into FC's in. Oh I also got a blue light and small space heater connected to automatic timers and thermostat. I think I should be able to get a good grow going. Does anyone have or have a link to a good recipe for these ingredients? Or should I just stick with the BRF Tek and toss in some of the other ingredients in small amounts to see how well it works?


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14558047 - 06/03/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Id suggest not doing 10 strains at once. Stick to 3 or 4 at a time.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #14558422 - 06/04/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Why only 3 or 4? I have plenty of room, time and materials to do them all at once. Not to mention it will allow me to have a bumper crop at harvest time and then start again. Or I suppose I could stagger them. Start 2 strains then wait 2-3 weeks and start 2 more etc. That way I would have a steady flow coming in on a continual basis. What do you guys think?


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14558731 - 06/04/11 02:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I like the picture of Fahtsters cakes on that site :lol: I'm sure he used that kit to grow em :thumbup:


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: McDude]
    #14558820 - 06/04/11 03:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

caligrowkits, visiongrowkits, and mycogrowlabs are all the same guy.  just a scammer preying on beginners.  stick with what everyone has said and D.I.Y.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: pcnubie]
    #14560905 - 06/04/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i got the same kit but from an ebay seller and i noc'ed the jars 5 days ago. Well 6/6 of them have little to no mycelium and 4/6 of them have green dots under and around the little mycelium they have.. should i just toss the jars or let them wait a little longer and see what happens? the dots are pretty small

edit-  guy above me is right they r all the same ppl his ebay name was mycogrowlabs and the paypal paid to visiongrowkits.

im gunna try to get my money with a paypal dispute


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: explosivekush]
    #14560971 - 06/04/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Use WIDE-MOUTH 1/2 pint jars, they are a forgiving size if contamination breaks out.  The last thing a noobie needs is a half-gallon jar full of trich (Me).


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14562532 - 06/04/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Why only 3 or 4? I have plenty of room, time and materials to do them all at once. Not to mention it will allow me to have a bumper crop at harvest time and then start again. Or I suppose I could stagger them. Start 2 strains then wait 2-3 weeks and start 2 more etc. That way I would have a steady flow coming in on a continual basis. What do you guys think?




100 jars (10cc per syringe, 10 strains) is alot of work to put on yourself at once. Even 100 grain jars is alot of work.. At every stage..


I like to stagger things.

That way you also learn each time, and can apply your knowledge to your next grow just weeks later.

EDIT: to say, I know why I said that, you said you were going to do 24 jars. If you do 10 strains, your going to do 2 or 3 jars of each strain. Why switch so much? Use one syringe, then the next. Then theres labeling ect..really no need. Keep it easier. 8 jars x 3 strains = 24 jars with 2 cc's of each strain left over in case its a good one and you want to put it to grain later. Perfect.

However I wouldnt do BRF in pint jars. Go with a grain, or mixture of grain you have.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #14562879 - 06/05/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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EDIT: to say, I know why I said that, you said you were going to do 24 jars. If you do 10 strains, your going to do 2 or 3 jars of each strain. Why switch so much? Use one syringe, then the next. Then theres labeling ect..really no need. Keep it easier. 8 jars x 3 strains = 24 jars with 2 cc's of each strain left over in case its a good one and you want to put it to grain later. Perfect.

However I wouldnt do BRF in pint jars. Go with a grain, or mixture of grain you have.




Ok I am going to take your advice and start with knocking up 24 jars using 3 strains, 8 jars per strain. Orissa India, Ban Phang Ka and Australian. I will be using large mouth 1 pint jars with a mixture of rye berries, cracked corn, bird seed, verm and just a little gypsum and hpoo for flavor. Now after full colonization should I remove the cakes and let them fruit that way or should I spawn them to some cake pans with hpoo, wheat straw, rye berries, BRF and verm? I ask because these three strains especially Orissa and Ban Phang can grow very large, over a foot long and have pretty meaty bodies and I'm not sure if cakes will be able to produce or support such large fruits. Let me know what you think and if you think I should change my recipe for the jars or the cake pan. Thanks much, I really appreciate all the help.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14563007 - 06/05/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well its good you arent gonna get the kit the only good thing about it is the incubator that they have, however you can make it yourself much cheaper. I bought it and I wasted the only Hawaiian syringe I had to the jars it came with :mad:. You already have all the grains to do it so just jump up to grain. You could also to a couple BRF and a couple grain and see what you like better.If you do decide to do BRF cakes I highly recommend that you dunk crumble and case them. It will take a couple more day than just fruiting the cakes my the out come IMO is a whole lot better. And lets face it 3-5 days is gonna kill anyone... good luck let us know whats up.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Showmehow420]
    #14563076 - 06/05/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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You could also to a couple BRF and a couple grain and see what you like better.If you do decide to do BRF cakes I highly recommend that you dunk crumble and case them. It will take a couple more day than just fruiting the cakes my the out come IMO is a whole lot better. And lets face it 3-5 days is gonna kill anyone... good luck let us know whats up.


I am familiar with the dunk and roll, but I think this is the first time I have heard of dunk and crumble. So what would you suggest for casing materials? Should I go with hpoo, wheat straw, rye berries, gypsum, cracked corn, bird seed, some more BRF and then a 1/2" or 1" layer of verm covering the whole thing? I mean, what would be your method? What substrates, pan shape and size, would you case it with a layer of verm etc?


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Showmehow420]
    #14563145 - 06/05/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok heres the deal. The grain or the BRF cakes are the "Substrate". You have to establish which you are going to use first. Noc up the substrate then case it. I like to use Miracle Grow Moisture Control (MGMC) because it is easy for me to get my hands on in the city.

If you are going to use the crumble method the is a link just do a search for it but basically break up the cakes after the are fully colonized and spread it out as the substrate. How much casing you use has to reflect how much substrate you use. If you use about 2 inches I would say a 1/2 inch of casing.(which is the MGMC or hpoo/straw) please correct me if anyone disagrees... for I am still pretty new as well


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    #14563146 - 06/05/11 03:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ohhh and the grain I recommend is WBS....


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    #14563910 - 06/05/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nah.. I didn't use that kit... I just used the grow sites on the intraweb like here.  I'm guessing they just lifted that pic off one of the these sites it's on.. But I did grow those with the method they are talking about... minus all the gadgets like ultrasonic etc.  The real trick in getting results like that is with a clone/isolate. 

the link for my clone tek is in my signature.  but there's plenty of ways to clone.  I am a supporter of small business and $99 isn't too crazy, but you can do it for less, but you have to do all the gathering of materials... so s'up to you.  How lazy do ya feel?  lol

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: fahtster]
    #14566928 - 06/05/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

THROW AWAY THE CRACKED CORN! Garbage for this, turns to mush. The rest of the jars is fine, though poo isnt needed.

Do NOT put BRF or rye berries in the trays that you spawn to. Forget the straw too, unless you really want to. The horse poo with gypsum and verm is a good substrate to spawn to.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #14567488 - 06/06/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok how does this sound? 8 1 pint jars = 16 cups so...
Rye 8cups
WBS 4cups
Verm 3cups
Gypsum 1cup
Wait for full colonization then dunk and crumble.
Spawn to 16 cups hpoo, 10 cups verm 5 cups straw and 1 cup gypsum. Too much, too little, quantities out of balance?


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #14567557 - 06/06/11 12:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What in the fuck is going on in this thread?

To the original poster - you should disregard anything that anyone has posted on this thread! There is very small bits and pieces scattered throughout what most of these people said and most of the good stuff is mixed in with at least one thing bad....

*ACCEPT* the things scatmanrav told you to do (also fahtster but he doesnt really give you specific advice)... you will notice that he/they have a trusted cultivator tag and until you have a decent bit of knowledge it is best to listen to what TC's say and try to ignore the riff raff

He is definately giving you good advice!

and since you posted in the mean time ill give you a little advice on it but again prob wait and see if scatman chimes back in...

IMO you should just pick one grain for your spawn I would suggest just going with the WBS alone....then there is definately no need to dunk after full colonization (thats a BRF PF tek thing).... and this last bit I have no experience with but have heard stories so I just do without, I hear straw is GREAT outdoor but indoor seems to kinda contam for w/e reason so I would suggest to just leave it out.... simpler is better go with WBS to Poo and that sill do wonders


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    #14567568 - 06/06/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just pick one grain to use....


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    #14567582 - 06/06/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Barton is right though I didnt clearify that I meant you have to chose ONLY one either grain or BRF. The crumbling is ONLY for if you decide to do BRF. you have a lot of good advice (again like barton said) I would just chose one thing and go with it man. Maybe do a little more reading in the forums though. All these question can be found.....


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14567594 - 06/06/11 12:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

scatmanrav is the one I am taking all my advice from because as you said he has the trusted cultivator tag. As for WBS I am torn between it and Rye. From what I understand there is allot more work in preparing WBS, washing and removing floaters etc but it has the benefit of being smaller and therefor it should in theory be able to spread further and more evenly when spawned to the hpoo. I can leave out the straw and just stick with hpoo, verm and gypsum when I spawn to trays. As for knocking up the jars I already have a ton of rye and WBS and I would prefer not to waste either. I have a total of 11 strains I will be working with over the next few months so I am sure I will use everything, I just want to be sure I do it right and in the right proportions.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14567615 - 06/06/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well is your rye and WBS mixed? that is what I was concerned about... although I dont think it will do anything bad even if it is mixed but I just think simpler is better I at one time got a bug that I wanted to do a bunch of additives and most everyone said to ditch it so I did and was always pleased... but if you already have jars prepped and ready then by all means give em a shot at least and see what happens


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14567654 - 06/06/11 12:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No, nothing is mixed yet. I haven't even opened the bags. Still waiting on my syringes. However I think I am gonna need more substrate. I only have 10 lbs of WBS, 5 lbs of rye and 10 lbs of BRF on the way. I need to pick one to use, stick with it and order more. I'm just not sure which will be the best to use if I am going to be spawning to hpoo trays


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Nerotik]
    #14568295 - 06/06/11 07:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There is alot of little bad things throughout the thread..just no time to go through all of it so I've stuck with basic answers.

First, in the grain jars, thats to much gypsum. For grain prep you only need a tablespoon. 1 cup is fine for the bulk mix.

Second, dont forget about shaking room in grain jars. PF tek you fill all the way, grain jars only 2/3-3/4 of the way, so you'll want to leave out a few cups. And you didnt account for water, your rye will triple in size and your WBS will double.

You can stick with one grain, but I do prefer both. I take two pots, rye in one WBS in the other and a tsp or tbsp of gypsum in each. I never rinse rye or WBS. I never remove floaters. You can do both if you want before/during the soak. Soak both separately then put both on the stove top separate and simmer (not full boil). WBS will be done in 10-15 minutes, rye in 20-25. Stir occassionaly and if you see a single kernal explode open, drain it. Drain both pots as theyre ready into a big strainer and let it steam. No rinse here ever. This is when the two seeds get mixed together.

Let it get all steamy and drain for at least 10 minutes (up to an hour or two) as you mix it around. Heres where it gets tricky. The verm your adding. You can throw off the water content here, so you may want to leave it out. If my grain looks to wet on the outside I mix in a handful or two of dry verm, to counter the wetness. If you add alot of verm youd want it to already be wet. I would shy away from that. You want the jars to be pretty much filled with grain, since thats where all the nutes are.

Then since 8 quarts jars isnt exactly 16 cups of grain, I'd take the recipe for trays down a bit from 32 cups. The ratio is good though. You can leave in straw or not. Just remember KISS (keep it simple stupid). Horse poo has alot of straw already and is great to work with with just some verm thrown in. Coir also works well in poo if you have it. Straw can just be a PITA to mix and deal with, but if you want to use it, its optional.

BRF, I've never had any need for. Its like training wheels on your bike to me. Just take em off and go for the grain.

I can tell from the things youve said youve done a bit of reading so keep it up. "How I DO Grain" in my sig may give you some help with it. Its old, and I've changed some thing. I think I did both seeds in one pot then. I just found rye absorbs more then WBS, so they go better separate.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #14568361 - 06/06/11 07:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This. ^

If you're gonna do grain, you might as well send your brf back.

If you'd like to play with some cakes, go for it, it's good to know/work with, but if you're jumping into grain there's really no need.

From what I've been reading lately, leave the straw out, it's prone to contams indoors, but again, optional.

Simmer grains seperately.

Pretty much what was said in scats post, I just wanted to emphasize.

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: Shroom_i]
    #15413136 - 11/23/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

back to the original question. I was looking at getting the kit with the grow chamber and filter. is the quality of the jars the only issue or is there other issues? can i find the filter system fairly easy? if so where? also couldt i get the kit and re-sterilize the jars? sorry for all the questions...... thanks for all your help.


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    #15413174 - 11/23/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well, I have no idea what kind of kit you're buying.

But, you can reuse jars once you birth your cakes.
Just wash them & you're good to go.

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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #15413231 - 11/23/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I bought a cali grow kit for my first grow.....jars didnt take off at all. The incubator was nice....it gave me a good idea for a larger model (can only fit like 8 quart jars in it or 12 1/2 pints)

I would say DONT get it the kit. You can make it alot cheaper than they sell it for.

If you can resterilize the jars than you would assume that you can just make your own jars....you can get everything you need at walmart man hahaha. hit me with a pm if you need some of my shopping list from there to get you started....


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    #15416442 - 11/24/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed. Forget the kit and make your own.


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Re: CALI Mushroom Grow Kit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #16141922 - 04/26/12 10:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I originally started to make my own but the cost of the supplies were actually more at home depot... WTF! - they must be getting things in bulk or something there.

Bought a Cali Grow Kits and got 3 good grows out of it. I wondered if adding my own gypsum would help the jar; but figured it would prob contaminate it

Used bestspores with my kit (prob my favorite store out there right now)

Don't know about you guys but I thought everything was pretty easy and priced.  Plus they replaced my hygrometer that I accidently broke (SHHH dont tell them it was my fault :smile:


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    #16141967 - 04/26/12 10:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You're looking at the total cost of the materials vs. what they're charging you, which is wrong.

Jars, tote, pots, measuring cups, etc. are all one time purchases.
The BRF & verm are cheap when purchased in bulk (comparatively to the price your paying in your grow kit.)
Perlite is reusable throughout the entire process.
Really the only thing you have to buy again is the brf & verm, which makes buying your own supplies cheaper, in the long run.
Also, it's nice to actually learn how to do things on your own rather than be given something.


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