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    #14543530 - 05/31/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How would i go about cleaning a trich infested walk in closet after a epic monotub fail?


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14543566 - 05/31/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lots and lots of lysol or oust


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Re: TRICH [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14543609 - 06/01/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You don't think 80% rubbing alcohol would be more effective and cheaper?


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14543631 - 06/01/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bleach bomb it.


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Re: TRICH [Re: Tangich]
    #14543669 - 06/01/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

soap and water


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Re: TRICH [Re: Tangich]
    #14543713 - 06/01/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

bleach uhh???
Ive read that bleach doesn't kill trich spores and let me tell u there every where i realize i would have to sanitize the whole room a series of times before trying to spawn to bulk or anything of that nature.


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Re: TRICH [Re: jokefox]
    #14543727 - 06/01/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You must be joking?


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14543752 - 06/01/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug: i used lysol when i had a trich issue... sprayed it 3 times a day 3 days in a row (bowt a bottle and a half)... didnt come back


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Re: TRICH [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14543831 - 06/01/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ive had trich lots of times, it will always come back its all around you

use soap and water


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Re: TRICH [Re: jokefox]
    #14543907 - 06/01/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

anyone else???


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14545427 - 06/01/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Gut out the closet and install new drywall in there.

There aren't any "cheap" ways to truly get rid of mold infestations....why do you think mold abatement is so expensive?


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Re: TRICH [Re: Chez man]
    #14546832 - 06/01/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's not the building it's the monotub that got trich more then likely frm bad pasteurization then left marinating for about a month while i was in jail.


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14546934 - 06/01/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It's not the building it's the monotub that got trich more then likely frm bad pasteurization then left marinating for about a month while i was in jail.




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Re: TRICH [Re: jokefox]
    #14547007 - 06/01/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ive had trich lots of times, it will always come back its all around you

use soap and water





:whathesaid:

dont waste alcohol (drink it) or lysol (expensive)...clean with soapy water 2 or 3 times, exchange the air real good and go ahead.

Trich comes when you have stale air (not enough FAE):shrug: keep that in mind.


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Re: TRICH [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14547045 - 06/01/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yea...Well i think Im going to use a combination of lysol oust and rubbing alcohol.
1.Rub down all walls shelves and hard surfaces w/80% rubbing alcohol.
2.Use lysol for all surfaces that aren't capable of being scrubbed with rubbing alcohol curtains, mattress etc.
3.Fog the room with oust.
4.Wash anything that can be washed blankets clothing etc.
5.Keep air moving buy using the celling fan the window cracked and an oscillating fan in the closet.
Ill do this a good four times before even trying anything im sure this will do the trick!
All in all ill only be spending like 20$


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Re: TRICH [Re: Luger0815]
    #14547057 - 06/01/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Go to a beauty store or some mega stores in the beauty section and look for hair coloring kits.  Pick up some 40vol hair coloring hydrogen peroxide.  Dilute 10% with water and spray and let oxidize for a few minutes and then clean it up.  Wear gloves as it does turn your fingers white.  Try not to get the cream, try to get the clear liquid.  This will kill spores, mold, via oxidation.  Also, while your at it if you want to save a ton of money on teeth cleaning, mix with glycerin, fit a sports mouthgard to your teeth, spread the mixture on the mouth gard place into mouth for 1 hour, do this each day for 7 days and you'll have perfectly white teeth.  It's what the dentists use, best kept secret.  Anyway, enjoy!


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14547128 - 06/01/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yea...Well i think Im going to use a combination of lysol oust and rubbing alcohol.
1.Rub down all walls shelves and hard surfaces w/80% rubbing alcohol.
2.Use lysol for all surfaces that aren't capable of being scrubbed with rubbing alcohol curtains, mattress etc.
3.Fog the room with oust.
4.Wash anything that can be washed blankets clothing etc.
5.Keep air moving buy using the celling fan the window cracked and an oscillating fan in the closet.
Ill do this a good four times before even trying anything im sure this will do the trick!
All in all ill only be spending like 20$


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14560689 - 06/04/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Isopropanol (iso alcohol) 70% is dirt cheap. I also would highly discourage drinking it, as it's even more deadly than ethanol.

Here's the best compromise between cheapest, least toxic, and most effective means to sanitize the area.

1. Make up a solution of roughly 5% bleach and 5% vinegar, e.g. 1,000ml water, 50ml bleach, 50ml vinegar. Yes, the vinegar is very, very important. Place into a spray bottle.

2. Fill a separate spray bottle with 70% isopropanol.

3. Wash all surfaces to be disinfected with the vinegar/bleach solution, and let sit for a few minutes.

4. Wash all surfaces down again with the 70% isopropanol solution, and allow to air dry.

the combination of both will kill off virtually all the spores, which are the problem, and will also kill off most of the living molds. Bleach alone can and will kill off all of the living molds, but it needs to be kept wet for 15 minutes or more, which is impractical with most surfaces. Hence the combination of bleach/vinegar and isopropanol.

However, is/was there any visible mold spores on the walls? I get trich breakouts all the time on later flushes. Trich is everywhere. Even if you completely disinfect your grow area, all air in any household is stuffed with trich spores, so don't get too anal about it.

:2cents:

Also, to link to a page, all you need to do is copy the URL ("web address," which almost always starts with http://www.something-or-other...) and then paste the URL wherever you want the link to be. You'll notice the mere presence of the http://www. yields a link in the hypertext, even though it goes nowhere.

Here's an example of an actual link:

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Here's an example of a link to this thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14547045#14547045

I don't think I can explain it any more than this. It's sort of like trying to explain to someone how to breathe. :laugh2: I think you're the first person I've met who didn't know how to post a link. :shrug:


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Re: TRICH [Re: faceyneck]
    #14560822 - 06/04/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

soap and water.
trich isn't an uncontrollable monster that will doom you to failure
forever if you don't kill it with fire, or chemicals.
as was said, it's EVERYWHERE.
i had an awfull trich outbreak awhile back, and barely cleaned
the area at all after. i stopped my practice of casing with verm
right out of the bag (no sterilization or even microwaving) and
POOF!!! it's gone.
i heard someone say recently that a fully colonized and healthy
substrate WILL NOT contam if supplied with adequate fresh air. i'm inclined to agree.


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Re: TRICH [Re: KaptKid]
    #14560863 - 06/04/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yea...Well i think Im going to use a combination of lysol oust and rubbing alcohol.
1.Rub down all walls shelves and hard surfaces w/80% rubbing alcohol.
2.Use lysol for all surfaces that aren't capable of being scrubbed with rubbing alcohol curtains, mattress etc.
3.Fog the room with oust.
4.Wash anything that can be washed blankets clothing etc.
5.Keep air moving buy using the celling fan the window cracked and an oscillating fan in the closet.
Ill do this a good four times before even trying anything im sure this will do the trick!
All in all ill only be spending like 20$


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NOOOO  very bad,
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    #14560876 - 06/04/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You guys make it so complicated.

You didn't clean your house with alcohol and lysol and loads of random crap before so why start now?


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Re: TRICH [Re: faceyneck]
    #14566081 - 06/05/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey thanks a lot Faceyneck for all the advise I really appreciate it,I just wanted to make sure I had a proper technique before I went about sanitizing my grow area since I've never had a trich problem this bad.
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However, is/was there any visible mold spores on the walls? I get trich breakouts all the time on later flushes. Trich is everywhere. Even if you completely disinfect your grow area, all air in any household is stuffed with trich spores, so don't get too anal about it.

Actually yea there is visible trich spores every where in the whole closet it gave everything in there a green tint that's why Im going to sanitize it a good for times still considering there to be plenty of trich spores in there i just want to cut the number of spores down so i can have a dissent chance of harvesting a flush. 
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:2cents:

Also, to link to a page, all you need to do is copy the URL ("web address," which almost always starts with http://www.something-or-other...) and then paste the URL wherever you want the link to be. You'll notice the mere presence of the http://www. yields a link in the hypertext, even though it goes nowhere.

Here's an example of an actual link:

www.shroomery.org

Here's an example of a link to this thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14547045#14547045

I don't think I can explain it any more than this. It's sort of like trying to explain to someone how to breathe. :laugh2: I think you're the first person I've met who didn't know how to post a link. :shrug:




Thanks again.....seems easy enough.


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Re: TRICH [Re: faceyneck]
    #14597618 - 06/11/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey faceyneck would you mind stating a source to your bleach vinegar disinfectant solution because I did as you said once already to my entire grow area and now im not to sure if it was a good idea because I just looked up your disinfectant method on wikipedia see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinfectant in the Home Disinfectants section and it say's mixing vinegar or any acid with bleach is a VERY BAD IDEA!


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14612402 - 06/14/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey faceyneck would you mind stating a source to your bleach vinegar disinfectant solution because I did as you said once already to my entire grow area and now im not to sure if it was a good idea because I just looked up your disinfectant method on wikipedia see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinfectant in the Home Disinfectants section and it say's mixing vinegar or any acid with bleach is a VERY BAD IDEA!





Well, mixing full-strength bleach and full-strength vinegar would be a very bad idea indeed. :lol:

The solution we're talking about is severely diluted. Yes, chlorine gas will be formed, but chlorine gas is released from bleach anyway, so this is not changing anything.

EDIT_ Vinegar has a very low PH, which is why it CAN be dangerous. The danger comes in dropping the PH of the bleach solution down past an unsafe threshold. Really anything lower than about 6.5.

If you mix 5% bleach and 5% vinegar with 90-95% water, the PH drops at lowest down to 6.8, a bit below neutral.

The PH of pool water is 7-7.6, which you then soak in for hours and hours without known health effects. So it's not as dangerous as people tend to think.

Dropping the PH down to 6.8-7.0 makes bleach about 80-200 times more effective as an antimicrobial agent.


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Re: TRICH [Re: faceyneck]
    #14612538 - 06/14/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Why make it so difficult?  Bucket, rag, soap, water.  That is all ya need


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14612697 - 06/14/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bleach, ammonia, lysol whatever... Wash it properly with soap'n'water and wipe it with whichever disinfectant you prefer afterwards. I use ammonia myself, it kills everything, evaporates quick and its dirt cheap.

I'm not too positive about isopropanol or alcohol for killing spores, you need something strongly protein dissolving to kill it.


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Re: TRICH [Re: faceyneck]
    #14612995 - 06/14/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Alright cool thanks for clearing that up I didn't mean to be ignorant but I always look farther into to information I've been giving.


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Re: TRICH [Re: B4RAKA]
    #14613111 - 06/14/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Click the link below for a compalation of ideas on how to "clean your room after a trich. outbreak.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14561051#14561051


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    #14613178 - 06/14/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good looking out my man.


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