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why are my shroomies so damned small?
    #14539724 - 05/31/11 08:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok so heres the deal i have a few diffrent strains fruiting  and for the most part they all seem good but my fruits are allways so small...anyone know why? i get say like a 2 inch shroomie 1 inch cap that drys down to like .2 .3  sometimes less  everyonce and a while il get a massive monster on a cake but 95% of the time there all dinky little buggers  i used BRF PF tek in a 50Gal perlite FC  when ever i buy shrooms there allways a few big ones with nice sized caps  something you would expect to see  but when i grow them i end up with like 50  little shroomies smaller then my  finger and i most certainly dunk and roll so i dono what my issues are any advice?

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: duckmantv]
    #14539779 - 05/31/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do you have good air circulation? Do you fan them?

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: duckmantv]
    #14539780 - 05/31/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We need to know more about your RH,lighting,moiture content,fanning and misting regiment


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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: duckmantv]
    #14539812 - 05/31/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well there's a lot that can cause that, you need to provide some more info on your setup. Are the cakes mostly fruiting from the bottom? Did you try using wax paper? A casing layer? How often do you mist/whats your humidity (and do you have a reliable hygrometer)? What size are your cakes?

To me it sounds like you aren't getting a bad yield, but only a lot of little shrooms right? First off I personally wouldn't mind that because that should mean greater potency per the same yield of fewer big shrooms. You are picking as they mature though right, because it kind of sounds like you just aren't getting even flushes and may be picking some too early? If thats the case you might want to experiment more with casing layers to try and manipulate a more even pinset :shrug: but most importantly don't pick immature shrooms (no offense, idk your experience level, but a lot of people make the mistake of thinking they have to pick them all at once).

IME (and in my research) FAE is one of the biggest factors in fruit size, and the way I've started looking at it is to try to push how much fae you can get while keeping the highest humidity and adequate lighting. I would let my humidity drop a little bit if it meant more fae but not below 95 (and within reason of course).


I think it was RR that said some of the biggest fruits he's ever seen were when he put some bulk outside (while it was raining or fog or something so humidity was perfect) and the fresh air gave him massive fruits.


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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14543016 - 05/31/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok so my FC is on a dresser  beside a shaded window i open the curtin whenever im home and not sleeping(i work graveyards) i dont know the humidty i dont have humidex  but i assume its good cause they are fruiting  my FAE might be a probolem i only fan and mist once a day but its only 6 cakes and its a huge fishtank so i guess i just assumed less fanning was needed  and the cakes are fruiting from the bottom of the cakes  one might actualy fall over cause a mush is growing from the underside and tiping the cake  there on lids  not on the perlite

from what im reading here it seems like i need to up the FAE and lighting

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: duckmantv]
    #14543059 - 05/31/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If your cakes are fruiting from the bottom you also have a humidity/moisture issue which will cause a lot of small fruits


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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14543152 - 05/31/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thank you for this post. I didnt even know I had a problem with my shrooms coming out of the bottom of my cakes and a lot of aborts on top. I can see now that my FC is too large....

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: duckmantv]
    #14543180 - 05/31/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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only fan and mist once a day but its only 6 cakes and its a huge fishtank so i guess i just assumed less fanning was needed





I would say that right there is a large part of the problem. I would up the FAE, and move from the fish tank to a proper tub. I like Doc_T's Mini Mono'sI mist once a day and beyond that nothing. Works perfectly, and is hassle free.

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: Showmehow420]
    #14543185 - 05/31/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

water...... water ........water........

whether or not its just in the air or in the substrate...... WATER!!!!!! and NUTES of course


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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: LewDoja]
    #14543419 - 05/31/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Also I would say that BRF cakes are just kinda prone to a little bit smaller fruits... there just isnt enough nutrients and such also the shrooms dont have as much support for giants... so just take what you can and work on your skills until you can tra a bulk method and see if you can notice a difference that way too...

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14543449 - 05/31/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Actually BRF is one of the most nutrient rich substrates,fruits tend to be smaller on cakes because of the limited moisture they can hold


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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14543514 - 05/31/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Alright well what he said but at any rate the bulk will tend to give much better sized friuts than BRF....

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Re: why are my shroomies so damned small? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14543546 - 05/31/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Correct because there is more of it in mass not because its more nutritious


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