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OfflineDimi
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Re: Looking to Upgrade Computer, What to get First? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #14554366 - 06/03/11 06:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)


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Re: Looking to Upgrade Computer, What to get First? [Re: Dimi]
    #14555473 - 06/03/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

make sure you download that motherboard monitor and look at it through Celsius. or i guess Fahrenheit would work. just make sure you look at the temperature through the sensors on the motherboard. so you don't blow something.


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Max Temps and When to worry [Re: imachavel]
    #14557224 - 06/03/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

From what I have learned, a temp of:

60 C on the Northbridge
60 C on the Southbridge
^Start worrying at 50 C

90 C on NVidia and ATI Video Cards
^Start worrying at 80 C

CPU's vary

Air cooling has a lot to do with the ambient temperature in your house. If your house is really hot, a lot of fans won't be as effective as a nice cool one.

Edited by Dimi (06/03/11 07:44 PM)

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Re: Max Temps and When to worry [Re: Dimi]
    #14557277 - 06/03/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

wait are you saying you worry more when the temperature goes down then you do when it goes up?


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Re: Max Temps and When to worry [Re: imachavel]
    #14557303 - 06/03/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If the temps go above higher you need to worry. When they hit 60 on the bridges, or 90 on the video card, you will can fry your chip, and even if not, will definitely  decrease the chip's lifespan considerably.


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Re: Max Temps and When to worry [Re: Dimi]
    #14557991 - 06/03/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ok as long as we are in the computer update thread, I have a question...

I recently got a backup western digital drive. I tried to configure it to do a daily backup. (i have xp) i clicked start all programs - accessories - system tools - backup

i tried to configure the wizard that popped up, to go ahead and do a daily backup, by clicking on advance, to back up to my western digital e: drive. it seemed to work, and I'm guessing it's still set to daily. btw I set it to write duplicate files so if I update a file it will be written over updated.

but when I clicked my wd passport e:, all that was in there was a backup wizard, I'm guessing this file will restore my files. but the question I have is, why is it only 468 thousand kilobytes. I guess i'm not used to seeing kilobytes, I would have thought my backup would be larger, like megabytes, gigs, etc.

I configured it to back up documents and settings, shouldn't it copy everything on the desktop as well? I'm just saying... anyway thanks for any advice given, just seems like it didn't work


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Re: Max Temps and When to worry [Re: imachavel]
    #14558628 - 06/04/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

As in 468 000 K? That's 468 megabytes...  1,000kB = 1 MB

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Re: Max Temps and When to worry [Re: Dimi]
    #14562405 - 06/04/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

hahaha, then I definitely configured the backup wrong. I wonder what the hell I backed up. I also wonder what the hell I did wrong, I scheduled it to do a daily backup of documents and settings to e: drive western digital. I don't know how I fucked that up.

hahah 1 mb, yeah definitely not a full backup. I know the western digital backup is probably fast, but not THAT fast.


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Re: Max Temps and When to worry [Re: Dimi]
    #14562890 - 06/05/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Dimi said:
1,000kB = 1 MB



depending on who you ask  :wink:

to a marketing team, 1000KB = 1MB
to everyone else on the planet, 1024KB = 1MB


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Re: Looking to Upgrade Computer, What to get First? [Re: Shrewmz]
    #14563090 - 06/05/11 02:35 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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as far as upgrading the ram, you should see a much more noticeable difference in speed if you upgraded to an SSD. id probably spend the cash on that before ram..





I disagree.

SSD's improve load times, sure. RAM improves load times, removes the need for disk caching,  and improves multitasking perfomance.




What exactly is this dude doing that he needs more than 4GiB of DDR3 1600 ram?  What game could he be playing that would saturate that?  From what I've seen, few games use much more than a 1GiB system ram even if its available.  If he has some other crazy application that would benefit from more than that, he's not mentioned it.  Now he says he has a GTS250 or something, and you think the RAM is a weak point?

My whole computer probably cost less than that i7 cost, and I have no problems with framerates with 4GiB ram.

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i've never heard of a game running bad on a pc with 5 gigs of ram though. i had a friend with a quad core, a really good graphics card, and 5 gigs ram on his pc, and it seemed to be able to run call of duty, crysis, all that shit just fine.




Ok, so what makes you attribute this performance to the amount of ram he has?  Again, I'm not aware of any game which takes much more than a GiB at maximum settings system memory.  While your operating system may cache a bunch of stuff, the game isn't going to benefit unless it can use any of that, and I doubt there's any signifigant quantity of games that can.  They're made to run on comparitively tiny consoles first, and simply cannot cache that much.

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Could you recommend me a heatsink? Don't know too much about cooling heh..





You can spend a bunch on really nice heatsinks, but for good basic improvements over stock, you don't need to spend anything over 15$ to get a good model comparitive to the 80$ units that sometimes perform worse.  I have a cooler master hyper 212 plus that works fine and I picked up new for 15$ last year.  Works great, and with the included fan is barely audible even under full load (folding at home) despite the case being at ear level and a few feet away.

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Dimi said:
1,000kB = 1 MB



depending on who you ask  :wink:

to a marketing team, 1000KB = 1MB
to everyone else on the planet, 1024KB = 1MB



 
Perhaps, but I see no reason why comp sci should be using different prefixes and messing up a coherent international measurement system.  I like the SI MiB for binary and MB for the regular mega that everyone else on the planet uses to represent ten to the six.

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Re: Looking to Upgrade Computer, What to get First? [Re: johnm214]
    #14563352 - 06/05/11 06:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ok my file was 400,000 kilobytes, not 4000 kilobytes.

maybe the backup worked fine, and I was just so surprised that it backed everything up in like seriously 1 minute, that when I saw that, I figured it was just a very small file.

however, if 4000 kilobytes equals 4 mbs of memory, then 400,000 kilobytes equals 400 mb's of memory? not quite the 20-30 gig memory backup I was expecting on my hard drive.

then to top it off, I know this western digital external notebook is going to write really fast, why did it take a minute just to write 400 mb's of data? for a hard disk drive that actually sounds just about right, but i'd figure in a minute my western digital could probably pull almost 2 or 3 gigs off the hard drive. of course maybe I'm wrong, but I figured these things were little faster than hard disk drives. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.


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Re: Looking to Upgrade Computer, What to get First? [Re: imachavel]
    #14637053 - 06/19/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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imachavel said:
I figured these things were little faster than hard disk drives. Maybe I'm wrong.




They are disk drives. The bigger external drives use standard sized drives, and the smaller ones will use laptop drives. So the write times seeming correct for a disk driver must've indeed been correct. :smile:

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