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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14552822 - 06/02/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Now here is someone telling me they know everything about god or whatever it is they believe in.  Here is someone telling me they know what is actually happening in creation.  They're not saying what if, they're not saying maybe, they're not saying I think, they're saying I know what's going on.




I wouldn't call that hubris.. I would call it certainty..

And inasmuch, are you saying that it's not possible the op does know exactly what he's talking about?

Is there no "What if.." in your way of looking at this?

Again- Whether or not someone can explain their personal Experience of Unity or not, is irrelevant here- Challenging him on elaborating?
His profile says it all..

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You're It

It's never too late... Just realise




I cant remember exactly what the quote is, who said it.. But something like

"You're it, I'm it, This is it, and that's all there is.."

Even so, no matter what we all tell you, what difference will that make.. You can't tell someone into having an experience of Unity..

What the OP is doing, is giving you a Fish.. from his own Fishing..
And sharing some subtle technique of how he got this beautiful fish..

It seems to me that you simple want some kind of proof.. But nothing anyone else does or says is going to do it for you.. It has to come from within..

It also seems to me that the OP intrigues you then, since you have been challenging him on his posts.. But he doesnt respond? Why challange that which you are.. and When you understand that which you are, you also understand it could have never been explained to you.. Hence you won't really be able to explain it to someone else..

If we could, more people would be 'enlightened' because we would just share it through interaction.. What we are 'trying' to do here, is take a fish, and figure out how to fish for it.. (this specific fish..).. by your words "so i can tell you I've heard it all before" tells me that you have eaten a great many fish, and also read about a great many fishing techniques.. (to keep using that metaphor)...

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The most atrocious things that happen to humanity are God's finest hour, the hour in which IT is totally convinced itself it is real... and thus has BECOME REAL...




This IMO, is an incredible statement.. And an amazingly worthy quote..

All the suffering in the world, all the hate and butchery.. Is so very atrocious.. And yet as Spirit/God incarnate as all that is, it has so perfectly orchestrated it's existence, it has so finely subjectified itself into the experience, that it see's it as Real.. WE did this.. I did this.. You did this.. and it is our finest hour.. It's when we so Awe-somely and Awe-fully imagined OURSELF. And so, You - Are. You are those children, those children are you.. You are those Germans, those Germans are You..

all just Fish my friend..
But with Real-eyes, we can realize, and see the real lies.. 

That it's just a Dream..

again- where is the Justice in all this suffering.. ? Well, Justice, Just Is.


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To get to the other side.

"Adapt.
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Accommodate."

"Professional help is being thought." - Bill Hicks

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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14552855 - 06/02/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

And Mckenna again- Focused..

"Go for 'direct experience'
What do you think when you face the waterfall?
What do you think when you have sex?
What do you think when you take psilocybin ?

Everything else is unconfirmable rumour,
Useless,
Probably Lies..


So, liberate Yourself.."

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And I'm supposed to believe he knows and is sure of what's going on in the Universe and beyond.  I think not.




Then why keep challenging him? What are you wanting to Believe?


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It would be hilarious... if it wasn't so sad...


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14552872 - 06/02/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

We basically have 2 options here-

Everything you Experience is Real, and True..

Or nothing is..

We just keep working out some kind of balance..


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14552964 - 06/02/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:dancingshroom:


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: Kickle]
    #14554545 - 06/03/11 07:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Kickle said:
Here's a hint: It involves only enough food to survive while working like a slave.




You've been getting a bit mean lately Kickstand.  :strokebeard:


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: Cups]
    #14555548 - 06/03/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not the one claiming that starvation and brutal work conditions are only what you make of them. But I am curious what someone who claims this with such certainty would do in the same position. I'm betting they wouldn't volunteer to be subjected to it, or if they did, that it wouldn't be long at all before they asked to have it stop :shrug:

I don't see the meanness in being curious and actually wanting to explore the validity of what a claim proposes.


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: Kickle]
    #14555634 - 06/03/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

its a concept that you created in your mind. that's it.


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: foliocb]
    #14555652 - 06/03/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't get what you're saying. The concept I had in my mind was the words written by the OP. I want to test this concept against reality and see if it is anything more than just a flying spaghetti monster. This lead to me posting my responses.


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Re: The suffering in the world is your creation... [Re: don_vedo]
    #14556352 - 06/03/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You crack me up Ice all in good fun right
:thumbup:


When it ceases to be fun, I take a break.


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