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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14541998 - 05/31/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Prisoner, you mewntioned you are part Native American.. I believe to recall that among some Native Americans theres a genetic basis for diminished fear response, that allows for working safely in highrise construction etc, I wonder if a bit of that runs in your family tree somewhere.

In several of your posts I see sins of diminished fear response in what you describe of yourself and family members but you lack the antisocial elements of APD or the telltale bragging signs of internet toughtalk.
I wonder if that could be part of it.


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Asante]
    #14542007 - 05/31/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

A guy I didn't know drove up and sucker punched me once but the weed and hydrocodone in my system made me immediately black out.


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14542021 - 05/31/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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male or female, the pelvis is the target, that or go for the hip joint, if
nothing else you slow them down dramatically, normally it's enough to put
someone out of the fight, hard enough and you break their shit, they'll be
fucked for months

ball kicking sometimes does little good





As I was taught, the knee is a very valid target for forms or kicking where you either step into the area from the fromt or the side, with you facing the opponent or standing sideways, a sideways kick to the knee in any direction but the way the joint goes, and this of the stand leg.

Its very hard to defend against a knee kick, a little force goes a long way there, you are very strong kicking at that height (much more force than high in the air as its a running height of the foot), the opponents weight rests on that leg so adds to the damage and wlking after you becomes kinda hard.

Do NOT joke around with knee kicks, its hard NOT to do damage with that.


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Asante]
    #14542050 - 05/31/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Or pull a Jessie Glover eye attack


:brucelee:


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: smurf_master] * 1
    #14542109 - 05/31/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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smurf_master said:
Or pull a Jessie Glover eye attack


:brucelee:



That's crazy lol. Ah, the thought hurts my eyes, even the thought of me doing it to someone else.

So the lessons of this thread are

1. Show no fear.

2a. If the assailant has a firearm, walk up to the gun and get directly in front of the barrel,  then tell him to put it down or else. The confrontation should end here, as the assailant will assume you actually invincible, quite possibly decended from a god, and run. (Can't argue w/ results.)

2b. If the guy is not armed and comes in swinging, go for the weak spots (i.e. throat, eyes, testicles, knees, etc.).

Around here we have some differing opinions as to how to bring about the end of the encounter.

3a. As the assailant is reeling from shock from the Jackie Chan testicle kick you just delivered, just freakin' bolt and be done w/ it. Congrats, you have successfully defended yourself! You have a cool story no one will believe!

3b. As the assailant is reeling from shock from the Jackie Chan testicle kick you just delivered kill that motherfucker, to make sure no one else gets bumrushed by this faggot. Congratulations! You have just successfully defended youself! And you are probably now wanted for murder! But that's one crazy fucker who won't fuck w/ you again!

:highfive:
That's how it's done.


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Edited by Toe_Jam (05/31/11 08:13 PM)


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14542144 - 05/31/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've been mugged probably 10 times in the last 6 months, with knives and guns in almost every instant. Being an extremely serious Mixed Martial Artist, I've never actually had to hand anything over. It's usually a quick disarm or knockout. Crooks around my area are pretty dumb, and even slower physically, in fact most months it's become a betting game for friends on how many I'll have "Hold Me Up".

Most people are absolutely terrible at actually fighting, even when they pick fights. Having some Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai classes will keep you safe in a large majority of cases. That and being physically fit.


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14542258 - 05/31/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have to lol, I just got back from the 7-11.  While walkin in two guys were eyeing me up.  I just stared back at them and went about my business.

Behind me was an easy target.  It was a Asian, well dressed, talking on a cell phone, looking lost.  This is in the north end of winnipeg.  He looked very out of place.

As I enter the store  I hear the two guys sitting in front of the store ask him for a smoke.  the guy was nervously trying to avoid them and they kinda escorted him into the alley.  While in the store I hear some sort of yelp.

I leave not seeing them anymore.  15 min later as I drive by the same 7-11 there is a cop car and ambulance with lights on in the parking lot.

Crazy shit man


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: FlusH]
    #14542277 - 05/31/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Choke a mother fucker out or hip toss him and put him in a head lock


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Asante]
    #14542379 - 05/31/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Prisoner, you mewntioned you are part Native American.. I believe to recall that among some Native Americans theres a genetic basis for diminished fear response, that allows for working safely in highrise construction etc, I wonder if a bit of that runs in your family tree somewhere.

In several of your posts I see sins of diminished fear response in what you describe of yourself and family members but you lack the antisocial elements of APD or the telltale bragging signs of internet toughtalk.
I wonder if that could be part of it.




I never really thought about it much but I do seem to lack that healthy
'respect' for the big angry goomer in the bar that always seems to find
me, somehow I find my mouth in motion and my brain out of gear and that
leads to me being known as that crazy little fucker that aint afraid of
nuttin'.  my neigbor commented on it to his son in law before he moved
down here from michigan, told him I'm a quiet little guy that you just
cant piss off and I'm stronger than most big guys and I just dont give
a shit... guy apparently got the impression I had no sense of humor from
that statement...

I'll brag for you if you really want... someone pushes me into a fight,
I'll give them 5 swings before I commit, whether they can connect or not
depends on them and the mood I'm in, sometimes I let them land something,
sometimes not, sometimes they manage to just fine without me sandbagging,
if in those 5 swings they havent put me on the ground and made me want to
stay there I'm going to light them up, I'll take that knee, the hips and
then go after their breathing, and once I've got them down to my level I'm
taking their sight, if you cant stand, breath or see, you'll be useless in
a fight, then I'm going to tap dance on their eyebrows until the twitching
stops and if they're ready to give up before I get to the skullfuckery,
then they better hope that I'm ready to stop because once I'm wound up I
find it hard to walk away, not because I'm angry but because I enjoy it and that is the one thing I fear, unchaining what I really am

I work hard to live like jesus said I should, turn the other cheek, when I run out of cheeks I'm a cruel son of a bitch and I dont care if it's one on one or 5 on one, someone is going to get hurt. the way I see things, if it comes to the point that I have to fight some angry bonehead then I've lost the real fight. self control.


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Asante]
    #14542409 - 05/31/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:

As I was taught, the knee is a very valid target for forms or kicking where you either step into the area from the fromt or the side, with you facing the opponent or standing sideways, a sideways kick to the knee in any direction but the way the joint goes, and this of the stand leg.

Its very hard to defend against a knee kick, a little force goes a long way there





for someone with good reflexes it just takes a slight turn and the knee
kick is negated with the way most people do it, a shot to the inside of
the right knee with your right foot, dont even bring your knee up, just
take the foot from the ground to his knee and push through... it fucks 'em
up because it's one that has no wind up, it doesnt telegraph like most
kicks, I wish I could post a video of how it's done because it's super
effective at close range, the distance that most fights start which is
almost nose to nose


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14544547 - 06/01/11 06:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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dont even bring your knee up, just
take the foot from the ground to his knee and push through... it fucks 'em
up because it's one that has no wind up, it doesnt telegraph like most
kicks




Thats the one. They teach it in the Military too. Its hard to describe, I have a Combatives manual somewhere, its prolly detailed there how to do it.


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Asante]
    #14545617 - 06/01/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I grabbed my old army Manuel from basic and here is what it says about attacks to the knee..

" Knee. Because the knee is a major supporting structure of the body , damage to this joint is especially detrimental to an opponent.
The knee is easily dislocated when struck at an opposing angle to the joint's normal range of motion,especially when it is bearing the opponents weight.

The knee can be dislocate or hyperextended by kicks and strikes with the entire body."

Also the key to hand to hand combat is

Physical Balance
Mental Balance
Position.
Timing
Distance
Momentum
Leverage.
:themoreyouknow:


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Asante]
    #14545633 - 06/01/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i would pull guard and go for a triangle choke :wink:


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: Blu Spore]
    #14545669 - 06/01/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'd counter/block the guy and ask what's going on. The fact that the last option is winning :feelsbadman:


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Re: You are being physically attacked by a guy you don't know! [Re: NetDiver] * 1
    #14545803 - 06/01/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Too late your counter was deflected, as the man comes back with a counter counter attack. You attempt to parry his blow but you are too late. He kills you.


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