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Lysergic72
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Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW
#14538606 - 05/30/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I found the both cluster samples near the base of a tree. I was looking for subs. The bright orange caps with yellowish flesh is very distinct, but just as you people would know there is other Gymnopilus strains. They have a strong typical mushroom odor. From a bit of research it seems some are active and other of the same strains can be inactive. Does any one know about these in Hunter Valley area?
A: This batch was in the wood chip and decomposing foliage under a tree I don't remember what tree
B: Found the second batch under a gum tree, in the rotting bark.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14538610 - 05/30/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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they look like Gymnopilus to me. whether or not theyre the laughing kind, i dont know
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
#14538623 - 05/30/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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look for blue/green staining . saweeet find man!!
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Lysergic72
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I can't see noticeable blue or green staining, if pinched. However I was reading yesterday that some of the active strains don't bruise blue/green? This seems to be a tricky species.
Edited by Lysergic72 (05/30/11 11:55 PM)
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14538691 - 05/31/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah...but theyre so bitter...id just go find subs
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
#14538758 - 05/31/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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LuckOfTheFryish said: yeah...but theyre so bitter...id just go find subs 
I'm going for other actives because I'm almost confident subs mightn't be around here. (Newcastle) Been to several different bush lands searching, several different parks with bark, wood chip, pine needle garden beds. A pine forest, etc. 7x days in a row searching. 
Might travel to Sydney to have a geeze.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14538760 - 05/31/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont give up. sometimes mushrooms can be elusive lil buggers
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
#14538768 - 05/31/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gymnopilus junonius.
The only way to know if they're active is too try them. Perhaps in a tea.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lord Mayonnaise]
#14538773 - 05/31/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lord Mayonnaise said: Gymnopilus junonius.
The only way to know if they're active is too try them. Perhaps in a tea.
probably with LOTS of sugar 
if you do try them, let us know how it goes
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
#14538811 - 05/31/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol foaf might, any ideas on starting dosage of fresh? Methods of ingestion? I read they're hard to dry properly.. Etc. Or would it be taking an unnecessary risk giving I can't spot any particular bluing/greening? Thanks for the assistance People 
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14538867 - 05/31/11 12:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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150g fresh roughly into a tea, flavour it at the end with anything you can think of to make the taste better, honey, cinamon ect.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Stopwhispering]
#14538899 - 05/31/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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150g is weighty. Should I spore print first? Should I tell my foaf to expect Diarrhea? Should he strain the shrooms out of boiling water for the tea? Cut them up first? Sorry for noob questions all. He's never done shrooms before.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14539017 - 05/31/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's fairly unlikely you will feel any effects, other than maybe a slight amount of relaxation. You never know though as they are generally active in other countries. 
There is a bit more info here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14106141/page/7. I am not sure if people generally chop them up finer than I did or not, and yeah strain out the tea before consumption.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Stopwhispering]
#14539061 - 05/31/11 02:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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80-150g's fresh. chop up very fine. boil water (amount of tea you want to consume), then add 2 tablespoons of sugar and a squeeze of fresh lemon. dissolve the sugar. add mushrooms and turn off heat. let sit for 30-45 minutes stirring occasionally. add powdered iced-tea mix. stir to dissolve. strain through 2 coffee filters. serve over ice. *make sure to squeeze the coffee filters to get extra goodness.* you should be tripping before you finish the glass.

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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: bloodworm]
#14539077 - 05/31/11 02:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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bloodworm said: you should be tripping before you finish the glass.
OP is in Australia so that is not too likely.
Wouldn't hurt to try though.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14539086 - 05/31/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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bloodworm said: you should be tripping before you finish the glass.
OP is in Australia so that is not too likely.
Wouldn't hurt to try though.
i was going to edit it to say: "if they are active"
but i think he should give it a whirl regardless. gyms are funny.
i love em'.

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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14539090 - 05/31/11 02:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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bloodworm said: 80-150g's fresh. chop up very fine. boil water (amount of tea you want to consume), then add 2 tablespoons of sugar and a squeeze of fresh lemon. dissolve the sugar. add mushrooms and turn off heat. let sit for 30-45 minutes stirring occasionally. add powdered iced-tea mix. stir to dissolve. strain through 2 coffee filters. serve over ice. *make sure to squeeze the coffee filters to get extra goodness.* you should be tripping before you finish the glass.

 peace and love bloodworm
Nice thorough instructions Bloodworm, much clearer than my haphazard attempts. 
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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bloodworm said: you should be tripping before you finish the glass.
OP is in Australia so that is not too likely.
Wouldn't hurt to try though.
I will most likely give it another shot if I find some other than my front yard ones. The tea was actually reasonably pleasant.
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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Stopwhispering]
#14539216 - 05/31/11 04:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey all!
Nom noms! Tea wasn't a bad taste at all, though I did add a few flavor maskers, also reading the more acrid and bitter tasting caps tent to the larger ones. So I got 150g of the smallest caps and pins, I also added 2 gram of marijuanilla (Leonurus siberious) herb, teaspoon of honey and teaspoon of sugar
I notice a certain mood change, feeling pretty euphoric at them moment, could be just the few cones I had to counter and possible nausea. Also I have no doubt the marijuanilla has a slight effect also. My room mates mentioned as they just got back they can see my pupils are different. So I'm skeptical and curious at the same time. I'll tell you all how it goes.

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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14539233 - 05/31/11 04:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lysergic72 said: Hey all!
Nom noms! Tea wasn't a bad taste at all, though I did add a few flavor maskers, also reading the more acrid and bitter tasting caps tent to the larger ones. So I got 150g of the smallest caps and pins, I also added 2 gram of marijuanilla (Leonurus siberious) herb, teaspoon of honey and teaspoon of sugar
I notice a certain mood change, feeling pretty euphoric at them moment, could be just the few cones I had to counter and possible nausea. Also I have no doubt the marijuanilla has a slight effect also. My room mates mentioned as they just got back they can see my pupils are different. So I'm skeptical and curious at the same time. I'll tell you all how it goes.


sweet! you will feel "something." that is for certain. whether or not you will have a full blown trip or not, we shall see. if u finished the tea. u should know already.

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Re: Possible laughing Jacks/Gyms (Junonius) NSW [Re: Lysergic72]
#14539234 - 05/31/11 04:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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they don't contain any psilocybin hence no staining. but they are still active with other compounds, some dude posted his experience with these not long ago. he also made it into a tea I think
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