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gus330
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Registered: 04/27/09
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what brand of wbs are you using i use Pennington's wbs and never a problem i have had prints before of stone producers that never grew nothing but never a cube
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Doctor_Inoc
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Doctor_Inoc said: Because my rye vendor told me upon me asking them if the rye they sold was organic.
The best deal I can find on rye in my local area is fed with a chemical fertilizer but not treated with fungicides, therefore, um-certifiably organic.
I'm sure the reasons they go with a chemical fertilizer over an organic one's because chemical fertilizers are cheaper, more precise, and don't require licensing to administer.
There's a hell of a lot more involved in organic certification than just staying away from chemical fertilizers, pesticides, etc.
I've never needed a license to mix compost and manure into the soil. Go with organic everything whenever you have a chance. Our planet will thank you, as will your body. Oh, your mushrooms will thank you as well. RR
Damn, did I strike a nerve using the word organic. 
Never said I was an expert on organic certification. Point being, the rye I bye is fed with a chemical fertilizer and not treated with fungicides, therefore "in-organic" Know this because I asked my rye vendor and they divulged this information. Myce has no problem colonizing the rye.
Will continue getting rye from the local, small town farmer I get it from. Of coarse organic products are the best and best for the environment. For things that are the best, they usually have the price tag to match.
Using this in-organic grade rye has worked for me. It's a small price to pay (using this inorganic rye) to save me few bucks and support my local, ma and pa farmer(s). Not going to have organic grade rye delivered to me for about 150% a mark up price. Doubt the use of organic rye and the benefits to the mushrooms your claiming is going to make enough of a difference in the fruits for me to pay the mark-up.
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JonnyLongboard
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Registered: 04/19/10
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Well the problem has been solved. It was the grain. As soon as my organic rye berries from Azure Standard arrived on my doorstep. I immediately prepped some jars up. Shot them up with spore syringe and three days later all of them are showing signs of growth. Quite a relief. I knew that I was doing every thing exactly right. But nothing was happening. But got some quality organic grain and viola success. So I cant stress enough folks that you shouldn't skimp on any part of the equation. Get your prep down, make some good lids, get some quality ORGANIC grain, and spores and
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blackout


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RogerRabbit said: If you have an agar wedge or LC, you can test the fungicide theory. Fungicides won't impact live mycelium, but only stop spores from germinating. RR
This is interesting, if I have suspect grain is there any treatment you would recommend? i.e. in an attempt to wash off or neutralise the fungicides, or does it really have absolutely zero impact on live myc -(I would have guessed it might slow growth?)
I have many prepped jars which are now several years old with no sign of contams. I had a batch of sporeworks syringes and had no luck with a few attempts and just set them aside thinking it must be the grain. So I am now going to try them on agar and transfer to the jars which may have fungicide.
Also my syringes are a few years old so would you recommend I get some certified organic grain to start them on, or agar, or LC?
Does organic automatically mean fungicide free? because I was reading of organic fungicides. http://www.vegetable-gardening-made-easier.com/organic-fungicides.html most organic grain I get is certified to a UK standard, not sure if they differ much around the world.
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JonnyLongboard said: three days later all of them are showing signs of growth.
If you still have the other fungicide jars you could try injecting water into growing jars, suck out the live myc and inject into the fungicide jars. This is what I might do.
Edited by blackout (09/16/11 08:07 PM)
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