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first time motivator...
    #14537681 - 05/30/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok...as I write this I have no reservations. For what is a man who doesn't stand up for something he believes in? Bought my jars, they looked wide-mouth but aren't...(I don't think). They are the half-pints..the band at the top makes me think I won't be able to cake without shocking too bad.:frown:

found a HUGE bag of verm at the local garden center...(mom and pop. Makes it easier and they are much willing to help! (They need the money too...):laugh:
:thumbup:
then the Universe directed me to a local yard sale that morning and I found a good hygrometer! 2 freakin bucks!....  ***grooooowwww mmeeeeee***

grabbed a bag of "Uncle Ben's" Brown organic rice...there's your shout out, Ben! and another yard sale produced a food processor for 5 bucks...I'm ready. (I think.):cool:
Anyone have or see any problems with what I got? I was also thinking of adding gypsum and coffee to my BRF's before I sterilize and innoc...a quick recipe would be great! I'm already using Roadkill's TEK to fix my jars.:mushroom2:
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14537699 - 05/30/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

wrong jars. nice find on the meter+verm/perlite.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14537705 - 05/30/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you will need the right jars...i can't say about uncle ben ....i have not tried it


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: argg]
    #14537721 - 05/30/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah wide mouth is almost a must. You'll have a hard time getting it out of that jar. Even the tall wide mouths will work, but short wide ones are the best.

I wouldn't worry about gypsum or coffee. Not needed and you probably won't notice any benefit. But if you feel you want to try then by all means get jiggy and try it. :smile:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: penhed]
    #14537737 - 05/30/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

dang...back to the store. I figured. K. don't wanna wait on the 1/2's. If I do pint's wouldn't that double the recipe on the BRF? still follow the dry wipe on the top 1/2" and then steam for 90? Also...I've heard of adding gypsum to the mix as an excellent food source. And coffee? Anyone slide me a link?:thumbup:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14537743 - 05/30/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

$22 bucks for 18 pounds of the verm. That was a nice find. The more I search, the closer I get...


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14537747 - 05/30/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Better BRF Recipe

2 cups BRF
1 cup vermiculite
1 cup 50% coffee dilution
pinch of gypsum

I've never experimented with coffee grounds in BRF jars, but I don't see how it could hurt.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14537760 - 05/30/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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hyperjump69 said:
dang...back to the store. I figured. K. don't wanna wait on the 1/2's. If I do pint's wouldn't that double the recipe on the BRF? still follow the dry wipe on the top 1/2" and then steam for 90? Also...I've heard of adding gypsum to the mix as an excellent food source. And coffee? Anyone slide me a link?:thumbup:




A quick search will show you everything your asking.  Asking the same questions is likely going to stimulate another noob to give you bad advice.

Get the correct 1/2 pint wide mouth jars.  Don't waste time on pints.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14537778 - 05/30/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am honored to be answered by the man himself- RogerRabbit. Thanks and YES. I will get the correct 1/2 pints. Much respect to you.:smile:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: p_walter]
    #14537789 - 05/30/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

when you say coffee dilution...what is that exactly? Coffee uncooked but mixed with water 50/50? How much per jar? Thanks, I've heard that makes for bigger fruits.:thumbup:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14538228 - 05/30/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

skip coffee for your first few grows.

you can add gypsum if you want.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14538259 - 05/30/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

By coffee dilution I mean make some coffee just like your normally would then dilute it with water 50/50.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: p_walter]
    #14538327 - 05/30/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ignore coffee for now. Alot of people don't even use it anymore, kind of a fad for some people.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: afrosheen]
    #14540773 - 05/31/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

NOBODY in my town or the city carries or can order the 1/2 pint wide-mouths.:sad:
I'm SOOOO tired of looking and I'm NOT ordering over the internet. I got the pint wide-mouths...(sorry, Roger...)
NOW, I've HEARD and READ on posts that I can add a dry layer of verm to the bottom of the pint (to lift up my wet so my syringe will inoculate correctly,,.i,e. into the BRF sub) and then cover with another layer of the dry for contamination barrier.
Is this something you guys have done, and does it work?
Any help would be useful. Thanks.:smile:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14540892 - 05/31/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey man, just so you know I use tall 1/2 pints and wide mouth pints all the time. Thats it as i've never used a 1/2 pint wide mouth.

Everyone talks shit about jar size and when I stop by and post pics (of my F+ grow from my sig), they tend to shut up and stop arguing about results.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14541040 - 05/31/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's What's UP!:thumbup: thanks for the reply. So SICK of looking...(maybe a collaboration between jar producers and "The MAN"???):cool:
sorry, different thread...
anywho-
I know the bigger the jar, the more likely-hood of contam's...but no prob there. Got my SAB sterilization and technique down...(I hope.) Been practicing a wierd, kinda slow-mo thing my gurl cracks up on everytime she watches me...:crazy2:
I will post pic's when 100% colonized.
But, back to the original question- should I make a "verm" sandwich? Like, dry on the bottom (to lift up my wet BRF sub), BRF sub, and another layer of the dry verm on top for Contam barrier?
Anyone who's tried this approach is encouraged to speak forth..ONWARD, MUSHIE SOLDIERS!!! MARCHING OFF TO SPAWN...


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14541064 - 05/31/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't personally.. I'd just have the thin layer of verm on top and the rest as substrate.


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14541124 - 05/31/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

was checkin' out your thread on bulk, too. Nice Cam cake.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14541135 - 05/31/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thanks, but I havn't updated that thread for a bit, not one of those fruited and I have no idea why. F+ has been my most successful fruit!


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14541621 - 05/31/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldnt use a layer of verm on the bottom. But definitely use one on the top. Make sure its an inch thick. Ive made mine too thin in an less than sterile environment and lost some jars.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Wing]
    #14541906 - 05/31/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

10-4. ...will do. :rockon:
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Wing]
    #14542077 - 05/31/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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I wouldnt use a layer of verm on the bottom. But definitely use one on the top. Make sure its an inch thick. Ive made mine too thin in an less than sterile environment and lost some jars.



an inch is too thin IMO... 1/2 inch should be fine unless you have long needles


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14542088 - 05/31/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

1 > 1/2 ???

sorry. I know it's just a typo.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Vermicelli]
    #14627065 - 06/17/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

*BUMP*
My good friend Ralph has shipped my SS of Acadian Coast. By Tuesday I will have nocced up 12 pints.
Caking all of them the first time, then to bulk sub the second. Wish me luck!


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14636564 - 06/19/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wanted to improve colonization times for my BRF/PF cakes. Thinking of doing a LC (honey) and innoculating my BRFs. I am using pint jars.
I realize my water mixture in my BRF should be a little drier to compensate for the LC. Any suggestions on how much to use? (If someone has been doing this for a while)..and lastly, about how much sooner will my substrate colonize with the LC? I'm shooting for birthing about middle of July. Is that possible?
Any help is appreciated.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14641489 - 06/20/11 06:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

hyperjump69 said:
Wanted to improve colonization times for my BRF/PF cakes. Thinking of doing a LC (honey) and innoculating my BRFs. I am using pint jars.
I realize my water mixture in my BRF should be a little drier to compensate for the LC. Any suggestions on how much to use? (If someone has been doing this for a while)..and lastly, about how much sooner will my substrate colonize with the LC? I'm shooting for birthing about middle of July. Is that possible?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!




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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14650314 - 06/21/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

OK. Nocced up LC with SS of Acadia and little bit of BRF. Should have myc swimming in the next week. Pictures are kinda boring, so I'm saving you guys the trouble of even looking.:tongue:
Will post pics of myc then.:thumbup:
Hopefully no contam's. Sprayed and wiped throughly and borrowed a neighbors canner to make my BRF's in a week.
Stay tuned!:rockon:
Pin porn in three weeks hopefully.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14666162 - 06/24/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

UPDATE-
Thursday morning I couldn't wait and noc'ed up two pint jars with honey LC. Added a pinch of BRF to facilitate myc growth once in my BRF jars. Friday morning and I have little white strands growing around the purple spores that are swimming in the jars. I gently swirl once every 4 hours. (Don't have magnetic stirrer yet)
I feel like leaving them alone until my myc has absorbed all the nute's. However, I've read that adding H202 will boost them some.
Is this true?
Thanks for the INSANE super knowledge you guys hand out. It will come back one day!


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14666236 - 06/24/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You're swirling an awful lot. Let the myc thrive for a few days. It's having to recover every time you swirl.

I don't think H2O2 boosts. I've heard that about coffee.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Wing]
    #14666875 - 06/24/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thanks, winged1. Will do.


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14669941 - 06/25/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

UPDATE-
Saturday and I am seeing amazing growth of my LC. Here's a pic.


The little specks of purple and brown are 1-Spore, and 2- BRF I included with my LC.
This thing has blown up in 2 days. I am extremely pleased. My other jar is not doing as well as this one, as most of my spores went into the first one.
What does everybody else think?


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14670734 - 06/25/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Zang!:thumbup:

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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Wing]
    #14670751 - 06/25/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think you can tell if an LC is contaminated just by looking at it. You'll have to test it on a PF cake or agar.

I've had LC's that looked like beautiful white fluffy mycelium, yet I got contamination city right at the inoculation points. :mad:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Chez man]
    #14671034 - 06/25/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, guys. Appreciate ya'll.:thumbup:
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14676357 - 06/26/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

UPDATE-
Filled 10 pint jars with my BRF as per Roadkill's Tek. My other jar of LC has consolidated and the water is getting clearer.:thumbup:
Steaming my jars in the canner (no pressure cooker yet:thumbdown:) and after cooling all night, plan to noc up my pints in the morning.
Looking forward to this. But I have a couple of questions-
1. Should I be trying to suck up the wad in the bottom or shake the hell out of it and just go with the water.?
2. Planning on really putting the juice to these pints- about 1 cc per hole. (4 holes in each top)..don't want to throw off my water content and stall out. Does this seem like an awful lot or should I back off a little on the LC?
3. Keeping sterility in mind always, can I use what I need and fridge the rest? (LC)..heard it will keep for awhile, but it's always good to get feedback from TC's.
Other than that- things are going well. Hope to have 100% colonization within 10 to 15 days. Is that a reasonable expectation?
Take care, and peace to all!:peace:


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    #14679226 - 06/27/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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UPDATE-
Filled 10 pint jars with my BRF as per Roadkill's Tek. My other jar of LC has consolidated and the water is getting clearer.:thumbup:
Steaming my jars in the canner (no pressure cooker yet:thumbdown:) and after cooling all night, plan to noc up my pints in the morning.
Looking forward to this. But I have a couple of questions-
1. Should I be trying to suck up the wad in the bottom or shake the hell out of it and just go with the water.?
2. Planning on really putting the juice to these pints- about 1 cc per hole. (4 holes in each top)..don't want to throw off my water content and stall out. Does this seem like an awful lot or should I back off a little on the LC?
3. Keeping sterility in mind always, can I use what I need and fridge the rest? (LC)..heard it will keep for awhile, but it's always good to get feedback from TC's.
Other than that- things are going well. Hope to have 100% colonization within 10 to 15 days. Is that a reasonable expectation?
Take care, and peace to all!:peace:




1. Yeah shake the jar really well before sucking up into your syringe.

2. Some growers will say that 1cc per hole is too much and will throw off your water ratio, but I do it all the time with great success.

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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Chez man]
    #14679272 - 06/27/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

sweet. That is exactly what I did. I got two 1/2 pints done with 1 syringe of LC. (about 1 cc per hole)...my BRF was a little drier than normal so I think I hit it right on the nose. Then I would flame-sterilize again, re-suck LC and flame again before I did another 2.
My BRF was really light and airy and I'm confident that these things will take off in the next day or two.:thumbup:
Will post pics then. Thanks for following my thread. Too damn cool!:cool:
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    #14684966 - 06/28/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

UPDATE-
noticed the beginning of white splotches growing in my BRF...very tiny though. No need for pics at this point but I'm sure in the next week these things are gonna zoom.
The entire process has been quite easy for me. I feel as though I was naturally meant to do this.
The initial room temp where I kept them was staying a constant 70 degrees. I felt as if this was too low. Moved them to a room that has a constant of 74 degrees. That's not too high is it? I probably already know the answer- just wanted to get some more feedback (or attention) LOL...
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    #14689707 - 06/29/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14691396 - 06/29/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

UPDATE-
Since inoculating Monday morning I have this.

Two full days and all four points are growing. Like I said, I'm planning on a birthday around middle of July. At this rate, don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
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    #14711546 - 07/03/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Checked the progress of my buddy's jars. Think they are about 80%-90% done. I'm letting them sit 5 days after 100%. Is that long enough for a good solid consolidation?:confused:

Here's a shot of 10. No contams. The circled black spots are actually darker pieces of verm. Just to let ya'll know so I won't get any comments on funny spots...



He waited till 75% and pulled the micropore tape from the holes for more GE. That's about right, maybe?:rolleyes:

Another one. Thinking maybe another 3 days till 100%..I know he can't wait.:thumbup:



What say you?...oh- if you haven't followed this one- only 6 days to this level of myc. I think my buddy might have this kinda thing running in his blood. Let's wish him luck!:peace:


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    #14711998 - 07/03/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Everything looks great. It only took you 6 days to get this far? If so, then that's pretty good. :thumbup:


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    #14712233 - 07/03/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

He said "thanks!". And yes, 6 days. I can't believe it myself. I'm convinced it was the BRF he put in with the SS to make his LC.:thumbup:
Acadian Coast strain. Anyone willing to trade spore prints for something different, PM me. Gonna be at least 2 weeks, though.:sad:
And his procedures are very sterile to say the least.:syringe:
He is currently calculating the time from inoculation to fruiting to get a time-frame down and sharpen his skills.
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    #14715091 - 07/04/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

No point in calculating a time frame, each grow will vary a little which is why people say "wait until 100% then give it another week to consolidate" because the time from inoc to 100% varies greatly.

Your buddy will develop a feel for things over time, and when it comes to waiting, the longer you wait, the better the results are. I.e. consolidation time for tubs and jars, slow strains like PE.

BTW your buddy's jars are looking good, even though the pics are far away they all look very healthy. Fast substrains are good at beating contams in a foot race also.


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    #14715219 - 07/04/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome post, bro. BTW, he had some questions. I'm only going on RR's tried and true method but here goes-
If at 100% and pins start forming in the jars that's a signal to birth. Am I correct in assuming this?

He plans on waiting 5 days after 100%. Is this necessary? I do understand the longer you wait after 100%, the better.

And last- ambient room temp. My buddy thinks 70-75 in the room is good. Since a SGFC is pretty much self-sufficient, would a fan left on in the room help, or hurt? i.e., stirring up dust and what-not, more FAE...etc.

He has done ALOT of freakin' looking and studying over the past year to be able to do this. Everyone has a varied way. As maybe someone with more experience- what would you suggest?

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    #14717866 - 07/04/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Awesome post, bro. BTW, he had some questions. I'm only going on RR's tried and true method but here goes-
If at 100% and pins start forming in the jars that's a signal to birth. Am I correct in assuming this?

He plans on waiting 5 days after 100%. Is this necessary? I do understand the longer you wait after 100%, the better.

And last- ambient room temp. My buddy thinks 70-75 in the room is good. Since a SGFC is pretty much self-sufficient, would a fan left on in the room help, or hurt? i.e., stirring up dust and what-not, more FAE...etc.

He has done ALOT of freakin' looking and studying over the past year to be able to do this. Everyone has a varied way. As maybe someone with more experience- what would you suggest?

Thanks ahead of time for the input.





1. Pinning in jars means happy birthday. Pins will survive a dunk and roll.

2. 5-7 days after 100% is traditional. You can wait longer but I think over 7 days is overkill. Your buddy will notice the cakes shrinking at this point.

3. Ambient temp is whatever you're comfortable in. 65-75F is an optimal range. Growing fungus will create its own heat so anything over 80F is bad. With a SGFC you want normal room circulation. If you have an air conditioner running somewhere that's all the air flow it needs. Don't trap it in a closet unless there's an indirect fan in that closet; even then closets are bad.


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    #14742090 - 07/09/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE-:thumbup:
Waited 5 days after 100%. Birthed two jars today. Figured out that bumping the jars on the side helped with that after I broke a cake getting it out.:rolleyes:
Am I ok? Birthing 5 days after 100% and all? Are two cakes gonna be enough? Should I fan and mist? Just trying to get some experienced growers commenting on the above two points...

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    #14749701 - 07/11/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Finally birthed the other 5 jars for a total of 7 cakes in the SGFC. I think it's a go.:rockon:

Dunked and rolled, blah, blah, blah...so on and so forth.:rolleyes:

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    #14756552 - 07/12/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

My buddy finally got those cakes in the SGFC...:thumbup:

He sent me this and wanted to know if it looked good. He seems to think it does. (Except for the part about where he broke some off the bottom birthing them)..He stuck it back together 'cause Roadkill said too....


He wanted you guys to see the FC. The hygrometer has come in handy. He's using a daylight (6500 Kelvin) bulb and has a fan in the window.
:rockon:





He put the cakes in 6 days ago. What's the time frame on pins? and he's not too smart so he wanted to know about misting and fanning. What the general consensus on that?:confused:

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    #14757529 - 07/12/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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    #14760873 - 07/13/11 04:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Been 7 days. Nothing is happening. Myc growth- sure...but no knotting, or pinning.:sad:

Room temps have been steady 74 degrees and RH in chamber has been more or less kept at 95%-99%. Been misting and fanning 2-3 times a day...why no pins?:confused:

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    #14760882 - 07/13/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you should see something in the next week, where did you get your spores? this was done from a spore syringe right?


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    #14760907 - 07/13/11 05:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Ralphster's Acadian Coast. Then LC to make my BRF. I accidently touched the top of one cake with the mister bottle and it turned blue, so I know they are the real deal....

Just been 7 days and I hear people getting results in as few as 3 to 4 days...thought maybe I was doing something wrong....not enough misting, fanning...light...etc.

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    #14760957 - 07/13/11 05:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

no problem bro, I've noticed with multispore syringes that pinning can take up to 2 weeks, normally I see it after 7-10 days. with LC I notice pins a few days sooner.

My first few batches of cakes never even fruited for me however, that was due to the place I got my syringe from, ralphsters i heard is good.


:EDIT: I just read where you said LC.... did you take spores to LC? if you did spores to Lc, then LC to cakes, you might have contamed LC


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    #14761070 - 07/13/11 06:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

dang...not cool. What would the signs of contaminated LC look like on cakes?

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    #14761605 - 07/13/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Those cakes appear fine to me. You'll just have to be patient....the pins will come when THEY want to.

I've had cakes that have taken 20 days before pinning (not lately though because I got my consolidation times down pact).

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    #14762239 - 07/13/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Chez- Thanks alot, bro... I'm sitting here scratching my head on what to do but realized that it is a patience game.:sad:

Been misting way up high and letting the mist fall down on the cakes. This sounds right, right?:thumbup:

My room temp sits about 74 degrees...this sounds right, right?:thumbup:

RH in the chamber drops when I fan, so I mist the lid and when I reclose the FC, it climbs back up. This is ok, right?:thumbup:

And lastly, I've heard shooting the cakes directly with a syringe of water helps with meatier fruits...anyone ever do this- and what are your results?

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    #14764263 - 07/13/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Been misting way up high and letting the mist fall down on the cakes. This sounds right, right?
Yep

My room temp sits about 74 degrees...this sounds right, right?
Yep

RH in the chamber drops when I fan, so I mist the lid and when I reclose the FC, it climbs back up. This is ok, right?
Fan then mist, and your RH shouldn't be a problem. But, I don't see any problem with misting the lid lightly.

And lastly, I've heard shooting the cakes directly with a syringe of water helps with meatier fruits...anyone ever do this- and what are your results?
Haven't heard of this.

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    #14764952 - 07/13/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I misted all four walls and the lid each time I saw they were dry to ensure that it was nice and moist in there. Every other day I gave the perlite a heavy misting, but that can be hard if you have a lot of cakes in there.


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    #14766509 - 07/14/11 07:03 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I dunked in cold water 24 hours. Rolled in verm. My patience ego needed a beat-down.:mad2:

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    #14774311 - 07/15/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Had to put 2 jars in outdoor cultivation, (contam's) one is in H-POO, and the other is in C-POO.

No no growth on cakes. I am noticing bigger bumps, but no real pinning, my patience is growing. These things are like the universe. I happens when it happens.

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    #14774472 - 07/15/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You can drop the whole "my friends cakes" deal. That just makes you look weird when you go back and forth saying they're yours and then their his. Your cakes should fruit eventually, don't stress out and over fan/mist thinking that you're doing something wrong. You really don't even need to mist and fan with a shotgun. Just do it once in the morning and once when you go to bed and you should be fine. Just spray over the cakes, no need to mist the sides.
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    #14777020 - 07/16/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

MY BUDDY has pins. Nice primordia and pinsets. Counted 22.:thumbup:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14782963 - 07/17/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quick question...nice pinning has occured on several cakes. I've heard mist all you want after pinning, but I don't know the correct procedure.Or if that is even sound advice.:confused:
Lot of different opinions on it, so a response from an "old hand" would be great!:thumbup:

Thanks so much for the info. Motherboard crashed on my old computer, so I haven't been able to upload pics...:sad:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14784215 - 07/17/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Not an old hand, but here it goes anyway: humidity is what you're after, not moisture. Standing water or water droplets accumulating will only lead to contamination. Mist air above cakes and let the mist fall down on them. With a properly constructed SGFC doing this once or twice daily should be fine. Oh, and try to stress less. Doesn't do shit for your mushrooms, but will definitely help your health :wink:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: p_walter]
    #14785074 - 07/18/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14788902 - 07/18/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

THE MOMENT OF TRUTH...:thumbup:

All cakes have pinning or primordia- they are BLOWING UP! Love it!



2nd cake-



One of the other shots...



So- for all my peeps following my thread. THANK YOU! God bless and my all your days be MUSHIE DAYS!:mushroom2:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14790146 - 07/19/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck yeah! Stoked for you bro. :thumbup:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Chez man]
    #14807147 - 07/22/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Figured out something...my and a buddy split 28 g's wet. A little something happened. I was very disappointed.

THEN- 2 days later I pulled 4 aborts. TINY aborts. HOLY SHIT! I lost my mind. Aborts are the way to go.

THEN- I dried and ate 2 g's. MUCH better. Apparently Acadian Coasts are much better dried. Wet did nothing really....wow. Very intense.:thumbup:


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14807944 - 07/22/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I bet the 28 wet grams would have dried to just a bout 2.25-2.5 grams, so splitting that with a friend would have been kinda weak.

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THEN- 2 days later I pulled 4 aborts. TINY aborts. HOLY SHIT! I lost my mind. Aborts are the way to go.





That's what the word on aborts is around here!


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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Chez man]
    #14810639 - 07/22/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Wing]
    #14838162 - 07/28/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Figured out to re-wet my perlite after 2nd flush. 2nd flush was bigger. Fruits and quantity.:thumbup: Already into 3rd.:mushroom2:
Probably won't be seen at all anymore. My buddy has decided it's not worth the risk.:rolleyes: HOWEVER- I'm sure he will lurk around and gain extra knowledge to this valuable and life-saving hobby.:mushroom2:
I think everyone should know the power they hold within themselves. :sun: God is not without, IT is within. :heart: Peace to everyone and maybe I'll cross paths at a festival or something one day.:crazy2:

I'm outta here. So many jars to inoculate, so little time.:rockon:
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