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hyperjump69
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14711546 - 07/03/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Checked the progress of my buddy's jars. Think they are about 80%-90% done. I'm letting them sit 5 days after 100%. Is that long enough for a good solid consolidation?
Here's a shot of 10. No contams. The circled black spots are actually darker pieces of verm. Just to let ya'll know so I won't get any comments on funny spots...

He waited till 75% and pulled the micropore tape from the holes for more GE. That's about right, maybe?
Another one. Thinking maybe another 3 days till 100%..I know he can't wait.

What say you?...oh- if you haven't followed this one- only 6 days to this level of myc. I think my buddy might have this kinda thing running in his blood. Let's wish him luck!
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14711998 - 07/03/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everything looks great. It only took you 6 days to get this far? If so, then that's pretty good.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14712213 - 07/03/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice!
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: kdmmontana]
#14712233 - 07/03/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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He said "thanks!". And yes, 6 days. I can't believe it myself. I'm convinced it was the BRF he put in with the SS to make his LC. Acadian Coast strain. Anyone willing to trade spore prints for something different, PM me. Gonna be at least 2 weeks, though. And his procedures are very sterile to say the least. He is currently calculating the time from inoculation to fruiting to get a time-frame down and sharpen his skills. Peace to all my brothers!
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14715091 - 07/04/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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No point in calculating a time frame, each grow will vary a little which is why people say "wait until 100% then give it another week to consolidate" because the time from inoc to 100% varies greatly.
Your buddy will develop a feel for things over time, and when it comes to waiting, the longer you wait, the better the results are. I.e. consolidation time for tubs and jars, slow strains like PE.
BTW your buddy's jars are looking good, even though the pics are far away they all look very healthy. Fast substrains are good at beating contams in a foot race also.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: afrosheen]
#14715219 - 07/04/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome post, bro. BTW, he had some questions. I'm only going on RR's tried and true method but here goes- If at 100% and pins start forming in the jars that's a signal to birth. Am I correct in assuming this?
He plans on waiting 5 days after 100%. Is this necessary? I do understand the longer you wait after 100%, the better.
And last- ambient room temp. My buddy thinks 70-75 in the room is good. Since a SGFC is pretty much self-sufficient, would a fan left on in the room help, or hurt? i.e., stirring up dust and what-not, more FAE...etc.
He has done ALOT of freakin' looking and studying over the past year to be able to do this. Everyone has a varied way. As maybe someone with more experience- what would you suggest?
Thanks ahead of time for the input.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14717866 - 07/04/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
hyperjump69 said: Awesome post, bro. BTW, he had some questions. I'm only going on RR's tried and true method but here goes- If at 100% and pins start forming in the jars that's a signal to birth. Am I correct in assuming this?
He plans on waiting 5 days after 100%. Is this necessary? I do understand the longer you wait after 100%, the better.
And last- ambient room temp. My buddy thinks 70-75 in the room is good. Since a SGFC is pretty much self-sufficient, would a fan left on in the room help, or hurt? i.e., stirring up dust and what-not, more FAE...etc.
He has done ALOT of freakin' looking and studying over the past year to be able to do this. Everyone has a varied way. As maybe someone with more experience- what would you suggest?
Thanks ahead of time for the input.
1. Pinning in jars means happy birthday. Pins will survive a dunk and roll.
2. 5-7 days after 100% is traditional. You can wait longer but I think over 7 days is overkill. Your buddy will notice the cakes shrinking at this point.
3. Ambient temp is whatever you're comfortable in. 65-75F is an optimal range. Growing fungus will create its own heat so anything over 80F is bad. With a SGFC you want normal room circulation. If you have an air conditioner running somewhere that's all the air flow it needs. Don't trap it in a closet unless there's an indirect fan in that closet; even then closets are bad.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: afrosheen]
#14742090 - 07/09/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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UPDATE- Waited 5 days after 100%. Birthed two jars today. Figured out that bumping the jars on the side helped with that after I broke a cake getting it out. Am I ok? Birthing 5 days after 100% and all? Are two cakes gonna be enough? Should I fan and mist? Just trying to get some experienced growers commenting on the above two points...
Final days before seeing the fruits of my labor... any input in appreciated!
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14749701 - 07/11/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Finally birthed the other 5 jars for a total of 7 cakes in the SGFC. I think it's a go.
Dunked and rolled, blah, blah, blah...so on and so forth.
Pics next!
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14756552 - 07/12/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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My buddy finally got those cakes in the SGFC...
He sent me this and wanted to know if it looked good. He seems to think it does. (Except for the part about where he broke some off the bottom birthing them)..He stuck it back together 'cause Roadkill said too....

He wanted you guys to see the FC. The hygrometer has come in handy. He's using a daylight (6500 Kelvin) bulb and has a fan in the window.
 


He put the cakes in 6 days ago. What's the time frame on pins? and he's not too smart so he wanted to know about misting and fanning. What the general consensus on that?
Peace! and thanks ahead of time for taking the time to respond.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14757529 - 07/12/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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BUMP-
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14760873 - 07/13/11 04:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Been 7 days. Nothing is happening. Myc growth- sure...but no knotting, or pinning.
Room temps have been steady 74 degrees and RH in chamber has been more or less kept at 95%-99%. Been misting and fanning 2-3 times a day...why no pins?
Need serious help on this...
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14760882 - 07/13/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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you should see something in the next week, where did you get your spores? this was done from a spore syringe right?
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Ralphster's Acadian Coast. Then LC to make my BRF. I accidently touched the top of one cake with the mister bottle and it turned blue, so I know they are the real deal....
Just been 7 days and I hear people getting results in as few as 3 to 4 days...thought maybe I was doing something wrong....not enough misting, fanning...light...etc.
Thanks A BUNCH, slaphappy....at least SOMEONE is helping me.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14760957 - 07/13/11 05:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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no problem bro, I've noticed with multispore syringes that pinning can take up to 2 weeks, normally I see it after 7-10 days. with LC I notice pins a few days sooner.
My first few batches of cakes never even fruited for me however, that was due to the place I got my syringe from, ralphsters i heard is good.
:EDIT: I just read where you said LC.... did you take spores to LC? if you did spores to Lc, then LC to cakes, you might have contamed LC
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dang...not cool. What would the signs of contaminated LC look like on cakes?
Thanks ahead of time for the response.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14761605 - 07/13/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those cakes appear fine to me. You'll just have to be patient....the pins will come when THEY want to.
I've had cakes that have taken 20 days before pinning (not lately though because I got my consolidation times down pact).
Patience.......
Edited by Chez man (07/13/11 10:22 AM)
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: Chez man]
#14762239 - 07/13/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Chez- Thanks alot, bro... I'm sitting here scratching my head on what to do but realized that it is a patience game.
Been misting way up high and letting the mist fall down on the cakes. This sounds right, right?
My room temp sits about 74 degrees...this sounds right, right?
RH in the chamber drops when I fan, so I mist the lid and when I reclose the FC, it climbs back up. This is ok, right?
And lastly, I've heard shooting the cakes directly with a syringe of water helps with meatier fruits...anyone ever do this- and what are your results?
Thanks ahead of time for taking the time to respond. You guys are great!
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: hyperjump69]
#14764263 - 07/13/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Been misting way up high and letting the mist fall down on the cakes. This sounds right, right? Yep
My room temp sits about 74 degrees...this sounds right, right? Yep
RH in the chamber drops when I fan, so I mist the lid and when I reclose the FC, it climbs back up. This is ok, right? Fan then mist, and your RH shouldn't be a problem. But, I don't see any problem with misting the lid lightly.
And lastly, I've heard shooting the cakes directly with a syringe of water helps with meatier fruits...anyone ever do this- and what are your results? Haven't heard of this.
Did you dunk your cakes? That can help encourage them to fruit faster.
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Re: first time motivator... [Re: p_walter]
#14764952 - 07/13/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I misted all four walls and the lid each time I saw they were dry to ensure that it was nice and moist in there. Every other day I gave the perlite a heavy misting, but that can be hard if you have a lot of cakes in there.
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