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The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true.
    #14536477 - 05/30/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sometimes statements are reliable:

"If I go out drinking tonight, I will have a hangover in the morning"

While others are seemingly unable to be false:

"X is X."


How can we tell the difference between something that is very consistent, reliable, justified, whatever, and something that is true?

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14536740 - 05/30/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I really don't know what is absolutely true.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537243 - 05/30/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do you know what to look for?

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537244 - 05/30/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537271 - 05/30/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How would you go about finding out?

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537279 - 05/30/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537362 - 05/30/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think you can do better than that. How do you go about finding anything? How do you go about finding someone else's keys?

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537398 - 05/30/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I search for guesses not truths. There is no way, not being the creator than I can know the creation for what it is.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537433 - 05/30/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So to know something you would have to have created it? That's straight from Vico, that's neat.

But does the creator of a joke know all of the ways people might take it? Does the creator of a house know all the ways the house can be used? Being a creator doesn't seem to put one in a much of a privledged position, let alone an omnipotent one.

So you say you search for guesses, how do you know when a guess is more or less true? Or all guesses on par with eachother, since you say you don't know what we're looking for when it comes to the truth?

"There is no way, not being the creator than I can know the creation for what it is. "

And as you state it, I disagree here. I think you can know "the creation" for "what it is" but you might not ever be able to know why or how.

Edited by xFrockx (05/30/11 07:33 PM)

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537464 - 05/30/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Are you trying to get rid of your itch?


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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537510 - 05/30/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I try to keep up with it. Lice like to take root but it seems like I'm going bald so there's no where for them to live anymore.

Are you?

Edited by xFrockx (05/30/11 07:57 PM)

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537557 - 05/30/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Lice like to take root but it seems like I'm going bald so there's no where for them to live anymore.

Might justify a shaved head and wax the rest.  Not that waxing your balls would be justified but I think you will find the experience to be truly memorable.  True dat.


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Edited by LunarEclipse (05/30/11 08:02 PM)

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537558 - 05/30/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Just because our "modern science" cannot prove something means absolutely nothing.





I changed my thinking a la 'The Secret' and amazingly my hair is growing back. Repeat "Furry, furry, have no worry!" ten times in the morning and night time for five years and then show us the new growth.


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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537575 - 05/30/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

xFrockx said:
I try to keep up with it. Lice like to take root but it seems like I'm going bald so there's no where for them to live anymore.

Are you?





Am I going bald?:lol:  No I have plenty of hair. No one has gone bald in my family. My dad has hair at 92.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: Icelander]
    #14537585 - 05/30/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Metaphorically speaking of course, I'm not going bald either, yet.

I was asking you the question you asked me. Are you trying to get rid of your itch?

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14537587 - 05/30/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

Just because our "modern science" cannot prove something means absolutely nothing.





I changed my thinking a la 'The Secret' and amazingly my hair is growing back. Repeat "Furry, furry, have no worry!" ten times in the morning and night time for five years and then show us the new growth.




"Fuzzy wuzzy my beard is scuzzy" I need a shave the five day wait worked.


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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: xFrockx]
    #14537674 - 05/30/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

xFrockx said:
Metaphorically speaking of course, I'm not going bald either, yet.

I was asking you the question you asked me. Are you trying to get rid of your itch?





Of course.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The difference between something that is really, really justified and something that is true. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14537710 - 05/30/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
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Just because our "modern science" cannot prove something means absolutely nothing.





I changed my thinking a la 'The Secret' and amazingly my hair is growing back. Repeat "Furry, furry, have no worry!" ten times in the morning and night time for five years and then show us the new growth.




"Fuzzy wuzzy my beard is scuzzy" I need a shave the five day wait worked.




That - and you believed! Now try, "Gray, gray, go away!"


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