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Strange growth
    #14536929 - 05/30/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i did a little research and although i found some good stuff i cant see exactly what’s going on. i haven’t run into any thing like this. looking for another perspective. it seems as though there is growth coming out of the bulb structure. props to usable answers but have at it.





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Re: Strange growth [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #14536997 - 05/30/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I had a ball grow on a penis envy cake once that was very similar.
Seems to be a mutation.
My buddy who om'd it said it was potent.
what strain is that cake?


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Re: Strange growth [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #14537138 - 05/30/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

golden teacher i believe


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Re: Strange growth [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #14537348 - 05/30/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's common, especially if you fail to wait a week or two after full colonization before birthing.  Pick it off and normal mushrooms usually follow.
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Re: Strange growth [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14537418 - 05/30/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

much appreciated...thinkin back i rushed these which i dont normally do...jw, is there a scientific name for whats goin on.


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Re: Strange growth [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #14537863 - 05/30/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

They're mutants caused by a too nutritious substrate.  BRF is pure supplement, and when it's 1/3 of the total substrate, that's too much.  This is why you should let the mycelium consolidate for a week or two so it can consume some of those excess nutrients before exposing to fruiting.  A month of consolidation works even better, but most people are in a hurry so they give up a larger harvest to get a smaller, but quicker harvest.
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Re: Strange growth [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14538772 - 05/31/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They're mutants caused by a too nutritious substrate.  BRF is pure supplement, and when it's 1/3 of the total substrate, that's too much.  This is why you should let the mycelium consolidate for a week or two so it can consume some of those excess nutrients before exposing to fruiting.  A month of consolidation works even better, but most people are in a hurry so they give up a larger harvest to get a smaller, but quicker harvest.
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Why, then, do we use so much BRF?


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Re: Strange growth [Re: asdfasdf]
    #14539273 - 05/31/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They're mutants caused by a too nutritious substrate.  BRF is pure supplement, and when it's 1/3 of the total substrate, that's too much.  This is why you should let the mycelium consolidate for a week or two so it can consume some of those excess nutrients before exposing to fruiting.  A month of consolidation works even better, but most people are in a hurry so they give up a larger harvest to get a smaller, but quicker harvest.
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hello RR. what do I do when i try to let them go over a week they start pinning. do i just let them grow for the other 7 days to make it a total of two weeks consolidation?

Usually at my 7 day mark after 100% they pin on me:shrug:

Thanks for any thoughts.

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i will see if i can find the link, but there is one that someone let grow and it was over a pound i believe.

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They're mutants caused by a too nutritious substrate.  BRF is pure supplement, and when it's 1/3 of the total substrate, that's too much.  This is why you should let the mycelium consolidate for a week or two so it can consume some of those excess nutrients before exposing to fruiting.  A month of consolidation works even better, but most people are in a hurry so they give up a larger harvest to get a smaller, but quicker harvest.
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Why, then, do we use so much BRF?



It's not when you wait the week after 100%, hence why we do it.

I like to wait till they start pinning in my jars because i know there ready to go to the next stage of there life cycle.

if you birth them as soon as there 100% they will just sit in the FC about a week before they pin.:2cents:


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Re: Strange growth [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14540640 - 05/31/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If they pin that soon ghey must be getting too much light. I think....


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Re: Strange growth [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #14540652 - 05/31/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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If they pin that soon ghey must be getting too much light. I think....




it is my understanding that light will not make something pin unless other fruiting conditions are present... also, it is my understanding that light is a good thing at all stages... just less intense light early on.


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Re: Strange growth [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #14540923 - 05/31/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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If they pin that soon ghey must be getting too much light. I think....



I let my jars sit in the open where they get light from the sun as well as my lamps., they also dont start pinning in the jars for 2-5 weeks after 100% colonization.

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Re: Strange growth [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14544571 - 06/01/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They're mutants caused by a too nutritious substrate.  BRF is pure supplement, and when it's 1/3 of the total substrate, that's too much.  This is why you should let the mycelium consolidate for a week or two so it can consume some of those excess nutrients before exposing to fruiting.  A month of consolidation works even better, but most people are in a hurry so they give up a larger harvest to get a smaller, but quicker harvest.
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hello RR. what do I do when i try to let them go over a week they start pinning. do i just let them grow for the other 7 days to make it a total of two weeks consolidation?

Usually at my 7 day mark after 100% they pin on me:shrug:

Thanks for any thoughts.

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i will see if i can find the link, but there is one that someone let grow and it was over a pound i believe.

:goodluck:

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Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
They're mutants caused by a too nutritious substrate.  BRF is pure supplement, and when it's 1/3 of the total substrate, that's too much.  This is why you should let the mycelium consolidate for a week or two so it can consume some of those excess nutrients before exposing to fruiting.  A month of consolidation works even better, but most people are in a hurry so they give up a larger harvest to get a smaller, but quicker harvest.
RR




Why, then, do we use so much BRF?



It's not when you wait the week after 100%, hence why we do it.

I like to wait till they start pinning in my jars because i know there ready to go to the next stage of there life cycle.

if you birth them as soon as there 100% they will just sit in the FC about a week before they pin.:2cents:




This happens to me too. I'd like to know RR opinion about when pf jars starts pinning during the consolidation week, I have been advised when that happens I have to birth it, remove the pins and dunk for 24 h. after that roll in verm and put in the FC. Looking at other threads people suggest different things and I think the information is confused.


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Re: Strange growth [Re: Toni L]
    #14544595 - 06/01/11 06:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you dont have to remove the pins bro. just be careful not to knock them off,and they will do fine. they also seem to get bigger:shrug:


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Re: Strange growth [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14544934 - 06/01/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This is not too uncommon, especially in genus Psilocybe. Try to get this for details:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.1971.tb02530.x/abstract


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Re: Strange growth [Re: lyco]
    #14547708 - 06/01/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I singled these out because of the growths. I picked a couple before i took the pick. seemed to turn out fine



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