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Would you follow a law that makes no sense?
    #14531969 - 05/29/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Would you obey orders from a police officer, no matter how stupid it is?



^There is a law that prohibits demonstrations in the Jefferson Memorial, but would you call this disturbing the peace? Would you call the officer's actions justified? Would you follow *any* law that the United States passes, no matter how stupid or unjust it may be?

Thoughts on the matter, and feel free to participate in the debate on the comments section of this video.


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #14532146 - 05/29/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

On the one hand, it was wrong for them to protest in that place, but it was also wrong of the police to use such brutal methods to subdue them.

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14533959 - 05/30/11 12:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well that's 100% F***ed up and pure genius at the same time. What a great demonstration of the idiocracy which some of our laws represent - and how idiotically they are enforced.

Kinda reminds me of a similar mindless injustice that is brutally enforced on a massive scale each and every day...

Do you happen to know who these guys were? I wouldn't mind sending them some donation bail money.

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: txlibertarian]
    #14534833 - 05/30/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I cant take this shit any more. fuck america

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14535005 - 05/30/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
On the one hand, it was wrong for them to protest in that place, but it was also wrong of the police to use such brutal methods to subdue them.




dont resist arrest and you arent 'brutalized', I didnt see anything there as
being brutal, I've received worse from my brother, parents, friends, class
mates, etc...

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14535009 - 05/30/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Led Zeppelin said:
I cant take this shit any more. fuck america





well then, what do you plan on doing about it

bitching to people on the internet?

that should accomplish a lot

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14535040 - 05/30/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Led Zeppelin said:
I cant take this shit any more. fuck america





well then, what do you plan on doing about it

bitching to people on the internet?

that should accomplish a lot





thats your fucking job.

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14535300 - 05/30/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
On the one hand, it was wrong for them to protest in that place, but it was also wrong of the police to use such brutal methods to subdue them.




dont resist arrest and you arent 'brutalized', I didnt see anything there as
being brutal, I've received worse from my brother, parents, friends, class
mates, etc...




They could have just bent his arm behind his back and frog-marched him out of there. I think that was totally uncalled for and as disrespectful as protesting there.

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14536069 - 05/30/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's this publicity whore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kokesh

He got what he wanted


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14536739 - 05/30/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

are you people failing to realize whats going on here...
YES this adam guy is looking for attention
BUT

people were just arrested for DANCING in a public place. do you not get the reality of it?

this isnt what jefferson would have wanted. he would have supported these protesters even though they were breaking the law...."If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." –Thomas Jefferson

wake up people. some dude just got slammed to the ground for exercising his first amendment rights. swat teams are busting in houses and killing people over non violent crimes like growing bud.

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14536760 - 05/30/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You have a child's eye opinion about what the first amendment means.  It is not a license to annoy the fuck out of other people.


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14536772 - 05/30/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol that cop didnt tase anyone, he evn gave out warnings

look at that guy dancing, i would have tased him with those dance moves


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14536860 - 05/30/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Led Zeppelin said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Led Zeppelin said:
I cant take this shit any more. fuck america





well then, what do you plan on doing about it

bitching to people on the internet?

that should accomplish a lot





thats your fucking job.



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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Heffy]
    #14536880 - 05/30/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if i was out numbered like that and people were starting to dance

i would have no choice other than to challenge them to a dance off.

after seeing that guys moves tho idk


maybe id get out my cuffs :lol:


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14537051 - 05/30/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
On the one hand, it was wrong for them to protest in that place, but it was also wrong of the police to use such brutal methods to subdue them.




dont resist arrest and you arent 'brutalized', I didnt see anything there as
being brutal, I've received worse from my brother, parents, friends, class
mates, etc...




They could have just bent his arm behind his back and frog-marched him out of there. I think that was totally uncalled for and as disrespectful as protesting there.





I guess you didnt see where they tried at 3 minutes in to do just that
sort of thing. he kept trying to prevent that and the cop took more
drastic measures, the cop even told him to put his hands behind his back,
called him sir and told him it was his last warning

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14537111 - 05/30/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Led Zeppelin said:
are you people failing to realize whats going on here...
YES this adam guy is looking for attention
BUT

people were just arrested for DANCING in a public place.

this isnt what jefferson would have wanted. he would have supported these protesters even though they were breaking the law....




so you admit it was more than just dancing, that it was in fact protesting


Quote:

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." –Thomas Jefferson





what law was it that he broke and how is it unjust

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14537145 - 05/30/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if im a cop and some guy asks me a question like "what law am i breaking?" im going to get pissed.  if he keeps taunting me that im not doing my job correctly hes getting arrested.


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: the human abstract] * 1
    #14537170 - 05/30/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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the human abstract said:
if im a cop and some guy asks me a question like "what law am i breaking?" im going to get pissed.  if he keeps taunting me that im not doing my job correctly hes getting arrested.




You'd probably look kind of like the guy in your sig too i'd guess.


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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14537615 - 05/30/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
I guess you didnt see where they tried at 3 minutes in to do just that
sort of thing. he kept trying to prevent that and the cop took more
drastic measures, the cop even told him to put his hands behind his back,
called him sir and told him it was his last warning




Yeah, I didn't get that far in. I stand corrected. The guy was kinda being an obnoxious jerk. I guess he got what he wanted.

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Re: Would you follow a law that makes no sense? [Re: Shins]
    #14537688 - 05/30/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shins said:
Quote:

the human abstract said:
if im a cop and some guy asks me a question like "what law am i breaking?" im going to get pissed.  if he keeps taunting me that im not doing my job correctly hes getting arrested.




You'd probably look kind of like the guy in your sig too i'd guess.




cops detain you and prosecute you in court, that is all.  anything you say can be used against you in court. 

regardless if im protesting (which ill vote instead) if im ever by a cop im not shaking his hand and im not even looking at him, he is working to make a living.

people that protest like this are actually making matters worse.    if you dont like the laws theres no use in dancing and being belligerent in front of a crowd and cops.

"cops dont make the laws." -prisoner


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