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drr

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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Jeffedelic]
#14533345 - 05/29/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jeffedelic said: Who's to say there's not a guy out there who gets closer to himself and the universe while eating a grilled cheese sandwich?

Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Jeffedelic]
#14533348 - 05/29/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jeffedelic said: Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
but theyre from the earth and albert hofmann was a saint! those are holy compounds and everything else is worthless recreational crap which only degenerates would consume!!!
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drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
yes. yes times 1000.
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drr

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Yeah ironically this thread sparked my interest in 2c's, but after the recent 2c-e/BDF scare I'm afraid to eat any mysterious internet powders now.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533497 - 05/29/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kras said: Not imposing anything on anyone. Re-read my posts.
I'm talking to people who seek what I'm seeking. I just want to save their time, effort, cash and health.
Have fun.
If anyone reading this wants to have a psychedelic trip for their first time, follow my guides and you won't regret it.
The problem with your statement is that all psychedelics affect everybody differently.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533986 - 05/30/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OP your authoritative, dick headed tone is extremely offensive and pushy for no reason. Even if I agreed with you I'd tell you you were wrong just to shove you off your high horse.
Spiritual experiences depend explicitly on the individual in question. Not the chemical catalyst he chooses to ingest. There's nothing special about LSD that makes it some how magically 'more spiritual' than 2CE or any other drug. It's just a random chemical that some guy in some lab came up with one day, just like every other man made psychedelic. Maybe you think Albert Hoffman's chemical process is some how more 'divine' than Sasha Shulgin's?
Maybe if you weren't so god damn stuck up about what chemicals you're on you'd have a better time. That doesn't seem likely though since you're so obviously wrapped up in your role as the guy who's taken the most drugs and already knows everything about them 
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drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
2CE was the greatest, most well rounded, least pushy/agenda-heavy, yet fully immersing, contemplative psychedelic experience of my life. For me, 25mg was perfect; I weight 115 lbs
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Kras



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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: LSDXM]
#14534388 - 05/30/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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IMPORTANT!
It was an error while typing. It's not me who has taken all the drugs but my friend. It supposed to mean that those who took lots of drugs didn't argue with the fact that phens are just week. All my friends preferred LSD, mushrooms or mescaline to any RC they have encountered. Sorry for the misunderstanding that annoyed some of you. I was just too tired and coming down from 2c-p, so I hope that you'll understand.
No, back to the topic. So, let's say what scientists have too say on the subject, okay? Here's a link to a video from a conference lead by a MAPS member:
I'm not biased against RCs but read what have Erowid.org written down about dangers. I've heard about a guy that have died from 2c-e overdose. What was very securing and what gave me a good way to get through bad trips is the fact that you cannot overdose mushrooms or LSD. After 2c-xes in higher doses I have shallow breath, my body feels like heavy. On other things I'd felt similar things but it was just my psyche and when my attitude or mood has shifted I didn't experienced those any more. While on 2c-xes it's just the action of a drug.
Nature versus chemicals isn't a bullshit. We have co-evolved with natural drugs and our bodies are more adept to process them. I can only point out the authority of Ayurveda that natural sources are always better. I can elaborate more on the subject.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14534456 - 05/30/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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DOI is worth trying for anyone who likes LSD. Isn't as good as LSD though ... and lasts twice as long. Doesn't stimulate as many receptors as LSD, feels like it has "less magic" to it (my own words.)
-------------------- (LSD) Lysergic Acid Diethylamide 25 "It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be." - Albert Hofmann "Drugs have done good things for us, if you don't believe they have do me a favor and take all your albums, tapes, CD's and burn them. Because you know what? Those musicians that have made that great music that has enhanced your lifes through out the years ... real fucking high on drugs." - Bill Hicks
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SamuelLJackson said:
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Jeffedelic said: Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
but theyre from the earth and albert hofmann was a saint! those are holy compounds and everything else is worthless recreational crap which only degenerates would consume!!!
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drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
yes. yes times 1000.
 2ce is the bomb :P
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Mario_x86-64]
#14534558 - 05/30/11 06:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think u should open your mind a bit more....stop comparing your dull mind to all of ours, we arent u and you arent us, so you dont know what the hell ur really saying as it only applies to you in your experiences.
"the dumbest people i know, are the ones who know everything" -- this applies to you, sir.
i can sense u arent having as good of a time as you could be because "he's being uptight, experiencing his own staleness" hilarious. but true.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Mario_x86-64]
#14534582 - 05/30/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Statements like that kill discussion. I'm presenting arguments, not only my own experiences. I'm saying what and why. There where some voices that made me ponder a little bit.
I had made one unfortunate statement, sorry about that. English isn't my native language. I'm trying to be honest and I really want to dig it a bit more because I'm curious about other peoples opinions. The reason why it's getting nowhere is because I mostly get 1-3 lines as a reply. I'm not sure if even anyone read whole my post. And it's not nice to say something without even listening what someone else has to say. From where this conclusion comes? Because most posters didn't even bothered to relate to anything I've written.
My thanks goes to others. I hope that this will get going. I'm not dogmatic but I have an opinion on that matter. If someone says "anything goes" then why he even bothers to write a 3-word post?
I can be in a huge error but if is it so you can try to communicate and to understand, to show your POV or... you can just try spread negative opinions. Man, people, you get frustrated so fast.
If you don't care, don't read, don't post. I haven't attacked anyone personally but please, LSDsilocybin, you don't know me so have some distance. I can just be confused or something like that.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14534793 - 05/30/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No way Phenethylamines and tryptamines are wonderful compounds, especially the 4-aCo/HO series, very mental and deep too ! 2C-E is a brain fucking too Look very similar to LSD just a bit stimulating
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Don't waste your time with RC's, cause I did not like them.
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Jeffedelic
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SamuelLJackson said:
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Jeffedelic said: Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
but theyre from the earth and albert hofmann was a saint! those are holy compounds and everything else is worthless recreational crap which only degenerates would consume!!!
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drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
yes. yes times 1000.
Yes yes yes try 2ce. Make sure you have access to a milligram scale and dose away! It's an amazing feeling.
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Moo456 said: I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
I can only laugh. Even on sensory side, LSD is far superior, more interesting, more metaphysical. And I have taken BIG doses of both and no one, even far more experienced drug users in my circles would challenge that. I don't want to be rude but maybe you are defending too much those compounds. Maybe you just haven't taken real LSD or it was too weak. Strong LSD is faaaar from being social or recreational. Maybe on a come down but in the middle... Mescaline is a similar case. High-dose 2c-e (accidental overdose) has put me in a lethargic dreamy state which was interesting and I was confused as I had REAL hallucinations, I mean... I thought about something and I was there and I've completely forgot about my surroundings but hey... it's not that 2c-e can connect you to the cosmic grid!
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liquidlounge


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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534916 - 05/30/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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if your looking for an RC that will "push the limit" try some bromo dragonfly. but for real man its all opinion
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534921 - 05/30/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534973 - 05/30/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
sorry to use the cliche as hell phrase
but who made you god i hope your trolling man
otherwise just holyfuck 
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the free thinker
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534980 - 05/30/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Get off your pedestal. There's absolutely nothing wrong with tripping to have fun.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534984 - 05/30/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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*Sigh*
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