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TheFakeSunRa
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memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda 2
#14534636 - 05/30/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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don't believe the hype
america doesn't need a new generation of cannon-fodder and the dead don't give a shit
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#14534639 - 05/30/11 07:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't give a FUCK about Memorial Day.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#14534640 - 05/30/11 07:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gotta love how grateful kids these days are.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Poid]
#14534644 - 05/30/11 07:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Poid said: Gotta love how grateful kids these days are. 
I'm grateful...
for hamburgers.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
#14534649 - 05/30/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck, now I'm hungry...
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Poid] 1
#14534866 - 05/30/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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do you really think that?
"Hey guise, as a way to boost morale for our military, let's remind the people once a year of how many of them we've managed to get killed.". Unlikely. Like the name suggests, it's day of memory for all those who have fallen.
Memorial Day is where you remember the soldier that died for some stupid cause, not the assholes who thought it up. You can mourn a soldier without agreeing with the reason they died.
I may be against our military agenda, but if a loved one died in a war I sure as shit wouldn't want some hippy talking shit about them, or dancing on their proverbial graves.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#14534878 - 05/30/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said: don't believe the hype
which version, the one claiming it's pro war propaganda as opposed to a 'warning' about the real cost of war
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14534909 - 05/30/11 09:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's all about glorifying martyrdom. Getting it into young people's mind that war is a chance to do something big that people will always honor. Well, I don't honor it. I spit on it because it's fucking bullshit. I don't honor junkies who OD, or people who die driving drunk, or people who get killed robbing liquor stores, or people who die defending a meaningless concept like 'country'
Now lock this thread or ban me because I know you can't stand this position. So fucking what? War is bullshit and I'll say it every fucking year.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#14534924 - 05/30/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said: It's all about glorifying martyrdom.
that may be how you choose to see it but others may not
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#14534943 - 05/30/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Of course war is bullshit. Take Vietnam, for example. There was a draft, a huge number of people had to suffer through hell with very little say in the matter. They went into the jungle, got poisoned, mutilated, and traumatized fighting an enemy that they could barely even find, and then they came back to people like you spitting on them. You're being very judgmental of people who may have even taken the same position as you. Memorial Day isn't just about supporting modern wars. It's about everyone who has given their lives in combat all over the world, ever. Your OP makes you sound extremely egocentric/western-focused, there have been other non-american lives lost in wars in the world.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Caine]
#14534961 - 05/30/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Riiight... I guess I missed all the Japanese and French flags out there today.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#14534969 - 05/30/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: Riiight... I guess I missed all the Japanese and French flags out there today.
So? Don't just follow along, then. Support the Japanese and French if you want. Speaking of the Japanese, do you consider the people who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki not to be victims of war?
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#14534977 - 05/30/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: Riiight... I guess I missed all the Japanese and French flags out there today.
did the french and japanese fight in the american civil war?
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#14534979 - 05/30/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think about becoming a war photographer a lot...shit looks like fun
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Cherk]
#14535031 - 05/30/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you should become a god warrior, don the armor of christ and fight the heathens, pagans, blasphemers and fornicators
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14535058 - 05/30/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: you should become a god warrior, don the armor of christ and fight the heathens, pagans, blasphemers and fornicators
i would but Colorado Springs is still over an hour away
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Cherk]
#14535097 - 05/30/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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for many people: joining the military is a last resort to keep your life from falling apart. I'm not gonna spit on them, just like I'm not gonna spit on a drug dealer trying to support his family.
War is unjust, but don't shoot the messenger(rather; shoot the messenger who already got shot).
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26695864 - 05/25/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Covidian bump bitches
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26695974 - 05/25/20 11:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
for many people: joining the military is a last resort to keep your life from falling apart.
I've always suspected and wondered if a certain type of individual is attracted to joining the military. And, if so, if that personality type is relatively incompatible for being a member of the military. In general, are many people who join the military the worst for being able to endure it?
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#26696020 - 05/26/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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A lot of people like that are actually pretty strong mentally. The "life falling apart" thing gets fixed with the military putting structure into the soldier's lives.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26696071 - 05/26/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a weak argument.
You could make that argument for literally anything.
Shopping carts are a conspiracy by auto body shops to increase the odds of your dinging your car up. They pay good money to make sure carts keep rolling out of stalls. Don't fall for the "please return your cart" propaganda crap trap, bro. /s.
The problem is it's incredibly easy to say something about something, versus having lived through it and experienced it.
I interpret it as making sure we never need to actually go to war, especially World War, ever the fuck again.
I'll gladly risk looking like an idiot saying this. I didn't live through that era. I have a computer in my fucking pocket right now to make this post. I don't take anything for granted. The idea that "an idea" about war, versus the reality of war, is more important is insane to me.
To each their own. I'm as anti-statist as you'll meet but that doesn't preclude people dying for reasons I may or may not care about nor support.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26696190 - 05/26/20 03:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It’s a bunch of flag waving bullshit
Memorial Day, Veterans Day, 4th of July, President’s Day
It’s all a bunch of crap
Fuck this country and everyone who died for it
It’s a goddamn holocaust start to finish
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26696201 - 05/26/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: Amanita86]
#26696229 - 05/26/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice covidian bump
Unfortunately its the same for my country, I suspect many if not most others.
Tell our children of the wars won and battles fought.
Lessons never learned about never to repeat the last great death-toll.
We glorify the sacrifice of the many whom died on the whim of a few.
Usually based on greed and lies. Never a real cause if there is such thing that can justify what we do to ourselves ( or allow to be done ) over and over again.
If it was all taken away tomorrow, what would be left?
For my country its like we almost cant be allowed to exist without the story of war, so they constantly remind us.
They hold on like its part of our core identity, and this is also the basis of how we relate with other countries and vice versa.
And don't you dare question it or your a grave dancing hippy that has no respect for my dead grand-paw pappy who fought and died for the freedom you now have to talk shit. You'd be talking like a NAZI Jap if not for their sacrifice.
This is true but can we not question the "greed" "lies" and "propaganda" that got them into this ongoing and unresolved situation.
A permanent war for profit culture that has gone on as far back as we all remember, and throughout all history 
Its all so obvious that it surely cant continue, can it? The awakened masses will turn on the those that are happy to slaughter us like cattle.
But its been this same situation FOREVER.
I guess all that patriotic positive spin marketing and flag flying works.
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Re: memorial day is just a bunch of pro-war propaganda [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26696398 - 05/26/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: do you really think that?
"Hey guise, as a way to boost morale for our military, let's remind the people once a year of how many of them we've managed to get killed.". Unlikely. Like the name suggests, it's day of memory for all those who have fallen.
Memorial Day is where you remember the soldier that died for some stupid cause, not the assholes who thought it up. You can mourn a soldier without agreeing with the reason they died.
I may be against our military agenda, but if a loved one died in a war I sure as shit wouldn't want some hippy talking shit about them, or dancing on their proverbial graves.

Lol look at what a baby ass liberal I was.
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