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#14534571 - 05/30/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization The Baltimore Sun May 28, 2011|By Luke Broadwater
Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, a GOP candidate for president, refused to back down from Fox News' Sean Hannity on the issue of legalizing marijuana last night.
In a 20-minute segment on Hannity's show, Johnson fared relatively well in an interview with the host who oscillated between complimentary stances and antagonistic stances.
Hannity called Johnson a "lesser known" candidate who is a "big underdog," but was generally hospitable to Johnson's ideas -- except when it came to drug legalization.
"There's not one thing you've said so far that I disagree with," Hannity said, before getting into the decriminalization of drugs.
That's when Hannity said the discussion got "heated."
"Half of what we spend on law enforcement, the courts and the prisons is drug related and to what end?" Johnson asked. "$70 billion per year. We're arresting 1.8 million people a year in this country. And, we now have 2.3 million people behind bars. We have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world."
Johnson said he's evaluated the issue from a "cost-benefit analysis" standpoint and determined decriminalization to be the wisest route.
Johnson compared marijuana to alcohol and said there was a difference between the two.
"Marijuana is a lot safer than alcohol," he said.
Hannity disagreed, and later referred to Johnson's views on this issue as "repugnant" and a "moral destruction" to the "human soul."
He said he didn't want the state to become "a pusher" and create "a bunch of junkies."
Johnson then told Hannity that, statistically speaking, one of his two kids would use marijuana at some point in their lives -- and he would rather parents dealt with the issue, rather than the courts.
"I don't want our kids criminalized," Johnson said.
After Johnson brought up examples in Europe in which drug decriminalization was successful, Hannity said "we're not going to agree on this issue."
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#14534606 - 05/30/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i would like to watch that. thanks for posting it
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Odd_Nonposter] 3
#14534704 - 05/30/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hannity, what a tool. His show is worse for the human soul than marijuana could ever be.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Smawrpg]
#14534822 - 05/30/11 08:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So far, Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are my front runners...I hope these presidential candidates live up to how they present themselves.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Mushie23] 1
#14534952 - 05/30/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushie23 said: So far, Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are my front runners...I hope these presidential candidates live up to how they present themselves.
the more i read about ron paul the more i want to go get his name tattooed on my forehead, the national media and polls have done everything they can to keep him in the dark but his popularity has grown substantially as of late. I like Gary Johnson but Ron Paul is taking it to the next level.
i stumbled across this forum the other day http://www.ronpaulforums.com/
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Smawrpg]
#14535116 - 05/30/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Smawrpg said: Hannity, what a tool. His show is worse for the human soul than marijuana could ever be.
Heh indeed
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Pilz]
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: webidiot2k4]
#14535378 - 05/30/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bah. F the politicians, smoke weed!
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#14535651 - 05/30/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: runepanther]
#14536192 - 05/30/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Notice how this idiot pulls away from the marijuana issue almost immediately and focuses on the harder and potentially more dangerous drugs. "A" typical stupidity that marijuana leads to other drugs. This is what our politicians have wanted people to believe for ages. And you can see that the white yuppies that are running our country have fallen for this non-sense. He also doesnt let Johnson so much as get a full sentence out then goes back to his " you want a country full of junkies" rhetoric. What a douche!
Even with powerful point like what they did over in other countries, He refuses to listen. Flat out stupidity. I like that Johnson kept cool and collected while trying to beat this dead horse. Hannity acted very childish. Again showing what our "elite" are made of. I like this guy.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: DoDahDay] 1
#14536350 - 05/30/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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America is already full of "junkies" anyway - nicotine, caffeine, SSRI, amphetamine, opiate, benzos and alcohol junkies.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Remix]
#14536566 - 05/30/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Almost anyone from fox news is gonna answer the issue of legalizing mj as the most destructive immoral saccreligous thing we can do to the USA, and when the TV host gets put in the conner, the last thing he'll say is think of the children. Never mind the fact will fill up our court systems with victimless crimes. Hannity probably still thinks after Nixon declared the war on drugs you can't find anyone who smokes the stuff.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Inspiration]
#14536583 - 05/30/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's dumb. There's stupid. And then there's Sean Hannity. He is to journalism what Brittney Spears is to female singing. Both are famous. Both are extremely poor at their craft.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Mushie23]
#14536587 - 05/30/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushie23 said: So far, Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are my front runners...I hope these presidential candidates live up to how they present themselves.
I'm going with Ron Paul, I love how he's campaigning to bring back Freedom in the "Land of the Free".
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#14536615 - 05/30/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: Sean Hannity exemplifies the inherent hypocrisy of social conservatives who love to plaster the word freedom on anything & everything they can find, yet either lack the intellectual ability (or simply the desire) to understand that their subjective definition of the term (which in actually is much closer to fascism) contradicts the objective definition of the term, & that those who who adhere much more closely to the objective meaning of the term don't feel compelled to use the word 100 times per day (or per show) to describe themselves, & put in on bumper stickers.
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EntheogenicPeace said: Sean Hannity exemplifies the inherent hypocrisy of social conservatives who love to plaster the word freedom on anything & everything they can find, yet either lack the intellectual ability (or simply the desire) to understand that their subjective definition of the term (which in actually is much closer to fascism) contradicts the objective definition of the term, & that those who who adhere much more closely to the objective meaning of the term don't feel compelled to use the word 100 times per day (or per show) to describe themselves, & put in on bumper stickers.
QFT. twice.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Me_Roy]
#14536764 - 05/30/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok this Johnson guy looks soft. He was not standing up to hannity he was talking sense and being too nice to the war monger, war criminal hannity.
Johnson only wants to legalize marijuana largely leaving the drug war in place. He should stand up for people's rights to digest whatever plants they want along with synthetic drugs used for recreational/ spiritual purposes. We have to publicly proclaim our right to use these plants and synthetic drugs and then we, not some opportunist politician, will start to put a stake in the heart of this drug war.
Here is the kind of group I am talking about like, share and participate in this group - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union-of-Recreational-Drug-Users-of-America-caffeinenicotinealcohol-too/221785961167336?sk=info
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14536898 - 05/30/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who cares don it's more than you're doing, progression will take it one step at a time. If he does what you say "He should stand up for people's rights to digest whatever plants they want along with synthetic drugs used for recreational/ spiritual purposes." He'll lose for sure and no progress will happen. Most americans won't vote for someone will such radical ideas.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Harri]
#14536925 - 05/30/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Harri said: Who cares don it's more than you're doing, progression will take it one step at a time. If he does what you say "He should stand up for people's rights to digest whatever plants they want along with synthetic drugs used for recreational/ spiritual purposes." He'll lose for sure and no progress will happen. Most americans won't vote for someone will such radical ideas.
You have no idea what I do first off, check your mouth. Second off Johnson is not even slightly radical and he is going to lose for sure because the Republican party built the drug war with their democrat friends and they profit from it in a not so indirect way. Johnson was not in any way on this segment proposing ending the drug war. If he won't do it on his biggest propaganda appearance opportunities, FOX then I see him to a large extent supporting the drug war.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Harri]
#14537097 - 05/30/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's the best move to move forward in ending the drug war, that comes across reasonable to the people of america? I take back what I said, I have no idea what you do.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Pilz]
#14537960 - 05/30/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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the more i read about ron paul the more i want to go get his name tattooed on my forehead, the national media and polls have done everything they can to keep him in the dark but his popularity has grown substantially as of late. I like Gary Johnson but Ron Paul is taking it to the next level.
i stumbled across this forum the other day http://www.ronpaulforums.com/
Amen brother. I plan to walk across America this summer starting in California and ending in Washington to spread the great name of Ron Paul. I'm taking a trip to NC and when I get back it's on like a chicken bone. I am tired of the government stealing our freedom and civil rights. We are suppose to be free, but the old farts in Washington expect us to keep living the way they did and they are also against our views;therefore locking us up for personal choices we choose to make. This will be his last year to try and run, so get up and spread the word!
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: gamer4life]
#14538124 - 05/30/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It looks like the end of the drug war is coming at last. So many candidates are speaking of legalizing, educating, and regulating this time around and this gives me hope. Lets just hope we don't have another Obama.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: limestoneman]
#14539380 - 05/31/11 05:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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^ There are only two people talking about educating and legalizing anything and both of them are going to get crushed. Do not support the imperialist war and drug war supporting parties - the Republicans and Democrats.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14540013 - 05/31/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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dondoodle said: ^ There are only two people talking about educating and legalizing anything and both of them are going to get crushed. Do not support the imperialist war and drug war supporting parties - the Republicans and Democrats.
I've been a Ron Paul fan since 07. Albeit, I know he ain't gonna make it, it's nice to hope sometimes.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: limestoneman]
#14540025 - 05/31/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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limestoneman said: I've been a Ron Paul fan since 07. Albeit, I know he ain't gonna make it, it's nice to hope sometimes.
What most people don't realize, a lot of people who supported Ron Paul went with Obama in the end. (Including Myself)... He promised change, and that's what this country needed the most. But once he was elected the only thing that changed was his views, he was all talk. I think Ron Paul has a fighting chance this time around.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: DrGreenThumb865]
#14541914 - 05/31/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ron Paul has almost zero chance due to his stance on social security and medicare.
Now me personally I have no problem destroying social security because it is being used to finance war - 2.5 trillion directly stolen so far.
However I on principal will never vote for a Democrat or Republican because they are both imperialist and drug war architects and mass murderers who will not allow the corporate party to be reformed from within.
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Edited by dondoodle (05/31/11 06:00 PM)
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14542052 - 05/31/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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dondoodle said: Ron Paul has almost zero chance due to his stance on social security and medicare.
Now me personally I have no problem destroying social security because it is being used to finance war - 2.5 trillion directly stolen so far.
Could you post when you got that information about social security being used to finance war. I don't doubt you in the slightest, but I want to show someone this information and have proof to back it up.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Harri]
#14542744 - 05/31/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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dondoodle said: Ron Paul has almost zero chance due to his stance on social security and medicare.
Now me personally I have no problem destroying social security because it is being used to finance war - 2.5 trillion directly stolen so far.
Could you post when you got that information about social security being used to finance war. I don't doubt you in the slightest, but I want to show someone this information and have proof to back it up.
I would be more than happy to.
First we have this US government treasury source showing the macro picture. The "intrgovernmental debt" is the total amoung stolen (they say borrowed) from the so called trust funds.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
Here is some evidence showing that the 2.5 trillion was taken from social security. There are plenty of other sources for this though it is a well established although not much talked about fact. http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2010/03/social_security_to_start_cashi.html
In order to prove that the money went from social security to war all you have to do is look for a the US Federal budget for any fiscal year in the past 30 years and you will have the proof. Look in the last 10 though to prove the point. I will leave that least one for you to look up but I do have a link I can post for you if need be.
It is a little more complicated than that but as far as the big picture the US government spends over or near 50% of the Federal discretionary spending on war year after year. Keep in my mind social security has never run a yearly deficit although they say that this year it will by a small margin.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14543328 - 05/31/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its amazing how someone who claims to be a constitutional conservative thinks that the constitution relates to everything 'except for...drugs.....gay marriage...etc' I see no 'except for' clause in the constitution.
What tells me Ron Paul is DANGEROUS to the establishment is the fact that both the left MSNBC/CNN/etc and the right FOX are giving him almost ZERO exposure. Gary Johnson got some....but I haven't heard a word on the news for the last 2 weeks about either of these guys. I keep hearing everybody harping about Sarah Palin and Chris Christy.....people that aren't even running.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: starfire_xes]
#14544574 - 06/01/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Johnson and Paul will never have a chance to fight it out at the ballot box. It will never happen, and there is one simple reason why. It does not matter how many people support them, or how hard they campagin through the primaries; it does not even matter how much support they get in the primaries.
They will never have a chance because the GOP will never back them. End of story, neither will ever run for president, they will never ever make it through the primaries. Never going to happen.
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