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Kras



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Don't waste your time with RCs
#14532122 - 05/29/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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As I'm writing this down I'm on 2C-P and I must tell you, it's not worth your time, money and effort. Sure, it's fun, warm and visual but it even didn't laid near mysticism. I've tried a handful of RCs and some were quite meaningful but with natural hallucinogens or LSD I really see no point in wasting your brain with such things.
If you are just curious I may assure you that LSD, mushrooms and the like are REALLY pushing the limits and while it can be worthy to experiment with natural hallucinogens, RCs just will fall short. At best, they can be as good as the old ones but before you'll find the right one you are risking a little bit. Nature is the best chemist that doesn't make mistakes. People do, and they are producing RCs. So watch yourself.
The whole 2C-X family is just a mistake. Cool, hallucinogenic amphetamine. Okey, if that's what you are looking for. But if you have ever considered mysticism or spirituality seriously then you can pass on those.
PSYCHEDELICS ARE REALLY THE ONLY TRUE FRONTIER PUSHERS. With other stuff you can only waste yourself and your life. After psychedelo-mania I've tried lots of stuff including opiates, speeds and RCs and trust me, if you ever find something that will satisfy your needs then you are addicted. 100% guaranteed. I was close but I've sobered up and I just don't give a damn about coffee anymore. Why do we look for another entanglements instead of looking for ways to free our lives?
Almost all former psychonauts that had wasted their lives did so doing other drugs then psychedelics. The bottom-line of hippie movement was alcoholism and lots of heroin and cocaine addicts. I see this again in my circles but that's enough! Keep it positive and keep it clean.
Trip for living, don't live for tripping.
Phenylamines (2c-x, DOx, MDx etc.) get C- as psychedelics. Except the holy mescaline of course! Don't venture in that direction if you look for psychedelics. It's useless. Except for the vendors, of course.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras] 6
#14532134 - 05/29/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kras



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Well... this a post straight from the heart to those WILLING to listen. If anyone considers taking RCs to trip, I say don't. It's just not worth it. If your shrooms don't do it for you anymore don't fool yourself that #85309 from TiHKAL will change that.
Two options: put your psychedelic experiences to some use or just fuck yourself up with anything at hand.
Whatever, it's your choice. For me it's just a waste of money.
But hey, this is how this world goes on. It's all about money, right? So test them all, just for fun and just because you have some greens to spend. Consume or be consumed.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras] 1
#14532449 - 05/29/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
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Fractalus
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I think there is a time and place for both fun or spiritual trips, its up to the user to decide which route he wants to take and any given time.
Edited by Fractalus (05/29/11 07:22 PM)
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muistrue
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
I agree with this, phenethylamines are really fun.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14532676 - 05/29/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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personally im a collector of experiences
its not about which trip is superior to the other
they all have there own flavor
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Samuel L Jackson
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber] 1
#14532682 - 05/29/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kras said: Well... this a post straight from the heart to those WILLING to listen. If anyone considers taking RCs to trip, I say don't. It's just not worth it. If your shrooms don't do it for you anymore don't fool yourself that #85309 from TiHKAL will change that.
Two options: put your psychedelic experiences to some use or just fuck yourself up with anything at hand.
Whatever, it's your choice. For me it's just a waste of money.
But hey, this is how this world goes on. It's all about money, right? So test them all, just for fun and just because you have some greens to spend. Consume or be consumed.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: muistrue]
#14532700 - 05/29/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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FractalDust said:
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
I agree with this, phenethylamines are really fun.
Agreed, 2c-e and b for me are some of my favorite trips
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Kras



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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: thissongis]
#14532772 - 05/29/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not imposing anything on anyone. Re-read my posts.
I'm talking to people who seek what I'm seeking. I just want to save their time, effort, cash and health.
Have fun.
If anyone reading this wants to have a psychedelic trip for their first time, follow my guides and you won't regret it.
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Moo456
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14532967 - 05/29/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kras said: If you are just curious I may assure you that LSD, mushrooms and the like are REALLY pushing the limits and while it can be worthy to experiment with natural hallucinogens, RCs just will fall short...
...Phenylamines (2c-x, DOx, MDx etc.) get C- as psychedelics. Except the holy mescaline of course! Don't venture in that direction if you look for psychedelics. It's useless. Except for the vendors, of course.
I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Moo456]
#14532980 - 05/29/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Moo456 said:
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Kras said: If you are just curious I may assure you that LSD, mushrooms and the like are REALLY pushing the limits and while it can be worthy to experiment with natural hallucinogens, RCs just will fall short...
...Phenylamines (2c-x, DOx, MDx etc.) get C- as psychedelics. Except the holy mescaline of course! Don't venture in that direction if you look for psychedelics. It's useless. Except for the vendors, of course.
I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
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is mescaline the only natural phenathylamine?
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drr

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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#14533083 - 05/29/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kras



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Moo456 said: I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
I can only laugh. Even on sensory side, LSD is far superior, more interesting, more metaphysical. And I have taken BIG doses of both and no one, even far more experienced drug users in my circles would challenge that. I don't want to be rude but maybe you are defending too much those compounds. Maybe you just haven't taken real LSD or it was too weak. Strong LSD is faaaar from being social or recreational. Maybe on a come down but in the middle... Mescaline is a similar case. High-dose 2c-e (accidental overdose) has put me in a lethargic dreamy state which was interesting and I was confused as I had REAL hallucinations, I mean... I thought about something and I was there and I've completely forgot about my surroundings but hey... it's not that 2c-e can connect you to the cosmic grid!
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: drr]
#14533128 - 05/29/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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just because you find these substances devoid of spiritual element, who's to say the same for anyone else?
2c-b connected me to my body in a way i'd never experienced before. my balance is better than ever... i don't feel as awkward. making the mind and body one, is't not spiritual? i thought so.
i would reccomend people follow their hearts , that's just your opinion, mang!
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533149 - 05/29/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kras said:
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Moo456 said: I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
I can only laugh. Even on sensory side, LSD is far superior, more interesting, more metaphysical. And I have taken BIG doses of both and no one, even far more experienced drug users in my circles would challenge that. I don't want to be rude but maybe you are defending too much those compounds. Maybe you just haven't taken real LSD or it was too weak. Strong LSD is faaaar from being social or recreational. Maybe on a come down but in the middle... Mescaline is a similar case. High-dose 2c-e (accidental overdose) has put me in a lethargic dreamy state which was interesting and I was confused as I had REAL hallucinations, I mean... I thought about something and I was there and I've completely forgot about my surroundings but hey... it's not that 2c-e can connect you to the cosmic grid!
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
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Moo456
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533277 - 05/29/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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A strong dose of any psychedelic isn't going to be social. I was just talking about the ratio of intensity to sociability compared to other psychedelics. You might be the one defending the compounds too much. It may also be you who hasn't tried the right RC's yet.
It isn't logical that the first psychedelic substances to be discovered are somehow superior. Most of the RC's that are around, are dependent on the difficulty of the synthesis and were just explorations based on known structures. There are still many more to come and it's inevitable that some will be at least as good as the one's that we have.
2c-e is already as good as LSD and mescaline IMO. I just think it could be a little more comfortable. It's only a matter of time before another great psychedelic is found that does have all the desirable attributes. DPT is supposed to be one of the great ones as well.
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Edited by Moo456 (05/29/11 10:14 PM)
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Moo456]
#14533326 - 05/29/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have tripped hundreds of times on lots of different chemicals and I can say without a doubt that 2c-e is my #1 as of now. LSD is great, mushrooms are weird, and 2c-e is just fucking fantastic. I always thought something being "spiritual" was a very subjective experience. Who's to say there's not a guy out there who gets closer to himself and the universe while eating a grilled cheese sandwich? Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533338 - 05/29/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OP dont you think drawing a line in the sand is just a bit egotistical
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