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Adam553
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when fruiting outdoors...
#14532616 - 05/29/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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do you have to put your tub in the ground? i'm growing some azures right now and the tub is getting close to fully colonized, would they be okay if i just put them outside for fruiting conditions instead of introducing it to and outdoor bed?
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Adam553]
#14532644 - 05/29/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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you want to layer your colonized woodchips on a bed of moist verm, potentially surrounded by a woodbox in a 4-6" hole in the ground covered with cardboard or leaf litter or grass.
maybe read more... The ghetto tek thread The Great UK Woodlover Colonization Project Some specific methods/pics Woodlover LC Miss Match's NZ subaeruginosa Waylit's Woodloving Ways
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Primal Call]
#14532698 - 05/29/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i tried reading up but the teks are kind of flakey... i spawned colonized grain to a mixture of hickory woodchips and a mixture of sawdust cut fresh from building my raised beds for my garden.
so should i take that and spread it in layers between verm outside in another tub?
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Adam553]
#14532734 - 05/29/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The tub is out of the picture once you have colonized woodchips. You just need to put them in a shallow hole with whatever additives (verm, debris, grass, etc) you think will help retain moisture best. Water it a couple times a week and wait until fall.
You should know that you might not get fruits from it this year because it's getting late to setup an outdoor bed. I know of someone who buried in June and got fall fruits, but I'm thinking this is rare.
I learned everything I know from those threads I linked... they are not "flakey" if you take the time to read through them.
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Primal Call]
#14532763 - 05/29/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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they do give good info, don't get me wrong, i just didn't have verification that the info was right.
that being the case i'll try to get woodchips colonized after the tub is done. then put that outside like you said.
is there any way to ensure the survival of my myc. outside over the winter? its okay if they dont fruit this year. thats why i was thinking of putting it in a big container or something instead of the ground, you could take it inside, like you do with plants.
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Adam553]
#14532815 - 05/29/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Adam553 said: they do give good info, don't get me wrong, i just didn't have verification that the info was right.
you are the only true verification. everything is potentially suspect!
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Adam553 said: is there any way to ensure the survival of my myc. outside over the winter? its okay if they dont fruit this year. thats why i was thinking of putting it in a big container or something instead of the ground, you could take it inside, like you do with plants.
Only guarantee is to keep the bed warm enough... I'd say a freeze for more than 3 days is too much, but I know very little in this area.
Your transporting the container idea might be pragmatic, but I've never heard of anyone doing it, which is obviously not to say it isn't worthwhile. 
For now, focus on getting some chips/dust/mulch colonized and get those outside asap. You might still have some luck for this upcoming fall.
Please post any success and keep notes... this is obviously a still-evolving portion of the hobby, and we could use more solid evidence of what works.
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Primal Call]
#14532844 - 05/29/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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will do. i'd like to post a proper woodlover outdoor tek on here for other people to go to. ... that is, if i succeed
my next problem is that i spawned to bulk already, and its pretty far along. would it be problematic to add woodchips to the bulk and allow for more woodchips in the equation?
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Adam553]
#14532856 - 05/29/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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spawned to bulk as in poo/coir/verm?
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Primal Call]
#14532865 - 05/29/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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as in woodchips and sawdust, no peat/verm/coir or anything else.
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Adam553]
#14532876 - 05/29/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't see the problem then...
MS or agar > grain > wood-based bulk > outside
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Primal Call]
#14532898 - 05/29/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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so adding more bulk to the bulk wont be a problem? sweet. good to hear.
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Adam553]
#14532913 - 05/29/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not a problem at all... that's pretty much what a lot of hunters do with patches they find.... transplant chips/stem butts to new areas and/or the same area and expand the patch.
If there are woody nutrients available, they will keep eating.
I recommend you add some organic soil mixed in with your chip/dust-based bulk.
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Re: when fruiting outdoors... [Re: Primal Call]
#14532953 - 05/29/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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very cool. i think i'll add some woodchips to get a good base going, then add woodchips and soil, then add soil/woodchips/straw to it and then put it outside. sounds like a really long process but an outdoor bed will be worth it.
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