|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
Don't waste your time with RCs
#14532122 - 05/29/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
As I'm writing this down I'm on 2C-P and I must tell you, it's not worth your time, money and effort. Sure, it's fun, warm and visual but it even didn't laid near mysticism. I've tried a handful of RCs and some were quite meaningful but with natural hallucinogens or LSD I really see no point in wasting your brain with such things.
If you are just curious I may assure you that LSD, mushrooms and the like are REALLY pushing the limits and while it can be worthy to experiment with natural hallucinogens, RCs just will fall short. At best, they can be as good as the old ones but before you'll find the right one you are risking a little bit. Nature is the best chemist that doesn't make mistakes. People do, and they are producing RCs. So watch yourself.
The whole 2C-X family is just a mistake. Cool, hallucinogenic amphetamine. Okey, if that's what you are looking for. But if you have ever considered mysticism or spirituality seriously then you can pass on those.
PSYCHEDELICS ARE REALLY THE ONLY TRUE FRONTIER PUSHERS. With other stuff you can only waste yourself and your life. After psychedelo-mania I've tried lots of stuff including opiates, speeds and RCs and trust me, if you ever find something that will satisfy your needs then you are addicted. 100% guaranteed. I was close but I've sobered up and I just don't give a damn about coffee anymore. Why do we look for another entanglements instead of looking for ways to free our lives?
Almost all former psychonauts that had wasted their lives did so doing other drugs then psychedelics. The bottom-line of hippie movement was alcoholism and lots of heroin and cocaine addicts. I see this again in my circles but that's enough! Keep it positive and keep it clean.
Trip for living, don't live for tripping.
Phenylamines (2c-x, DOx, MDx etc.) get C- as psychedelics. Except the holy mescaline of course! Don't venture in that direction if you look for psychedelics. It's useless. Except for the vendors, of course.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
Samuel L Jackson
Bad Motherfucker


Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 8,393
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras] 6
#14532134 - 05/29/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
--------------------
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
|
Well... this a post straight from the heart to those WILLING to listen. If anyone considers taking RCs to trip, I say don't. It's just not worth it. If your shrooms don't do it for you anymore don't fool yourself that #85309 from TiHKAL will change that.
Two options: put your psychedelic experiences to some use or just fuck yourself up with anything at hand.
Whatever, it's your choice. For me it's just a waste of money.
But hey, this is how this world goes on. It's all about money, right? So test them all, just for fun and just because you have some greens to spend. Consume or be consumed.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
PorcupinesRevenge
Porcupine


Registered: 05/14/10
Posts: 200
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras] 1
#14532449 - 05/29/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
|
Fractalus
Incrementalist


Registered: 07/15/04
Posts: 256
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
|
I think there is a time and place for both fun or spiritual trips, its up to the user to decide which route he wants to take and any given time.
Edited by Fractalus (05/29/11 07:22 PM)
|
muistrue
Inspired by the mystery


Registered: 03/20/05
Posts: 12,899
Loc: Behind the Redwoods
|
|
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
I agree with this, phenethylamines are really fun.
--------------------
|
Micawber
...............................



Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 2,644
Loc: southeast
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14532676 - 05/29/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
personally im a collector of experiences
its not about which trip is superior to the other
they all have there own flavor
-------------------- (mik-kaw'-bur) n. one who is poor but lives in optimistic expectation of better fortune
|
Samuel L Jackson
Bad Motherfucker


Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 8,393
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber] 1
#14532682 - 05/29/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kras said: Well... this a post straight from the heart to those WILLING to listen. If anyone considers taking RCs to trip, I say don't. It's just not worth it. If your shrooms don't do it for you anymore don't fool yourself that #85309 from TiHKAL will change that.
Two options: put your psychedelic experiences to some use or just fuck yourself up with anything at hand.
Whatever, it's your choice. For me it's just a waste of money.
But hey, this is how this world goes on. It's all about money, right? So test them all, just for fun and just because you have some greens to spend. Consume or be consumed.
Quote:
SamuelLJackson said:

--------------------
|
thissongis
Stranger Danger



Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 2,420
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: muistrue]
#14532700 - 05/29/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
FractalDust said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
I agree with this, phenethylamines are really fun.
Agreed, 2c-e and b for me are some of my favorite trips
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: thissongis]
#14532772 - 05/29/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Not imposing anything on anyone. Re-read my posts.
I'm talking to people who seek what I'm seeking. I just want to save their time, effort, cash and health.
Have fun.
If anyone reading this wants to have a psychedelic trip for their first time, follow my guides and you won't regret it.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
Moo456
Pied_Piper

Registered: 03/03/06
Posts: 4,591
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14532967 - 05/29/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kras said: If you are just curious I may assure you that LSD, mushrooms and the like are REALLY pushing the limits and while it can be worthy to experiment with natural hallucinogens, RCs just will fall short...
...Phenylamines (2c-x, DOx, MDx etc.) get C- as psychedelics. Except the holy mescaline of course! Don't venture in that direction if you look for psychedelics. It's useless. Except for the vendors, of course.
I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
--------------------
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Moo456]
#14532980 - 05/29/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moo456 said:
Quote:
Kras said: If you are just curious I may assure you that LSD, mushrooms and the like are REALLY pushing the limits and while it can be worthy to experiment with natural hallucinogens, RCs just will fall short...
...Phenylamines (2c-x, DOx, MDx etc.) get C- as psychedelics. Except the holy mescaline of course! Don't venture in that direction if you look for psychedelics. It's useless. Except for the vendors, of course.
I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
Led Zeppelin
Tripper


Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 3,962
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
|
is mescaline the only natural phenathylamine?
|
drr

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 8,444
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#14533083 - 05/29/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
No
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
|
Quote:
Moo456 said: I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
I can only laugh. Even on sensory side, LSD is far superior, more interesting, more metaphysical. And I have taken BIG doses of both and no one, even far more experienced drug users in my circles would challenge that. I don't want to be rude but maybe you are defending too much those compounds. Maybe you just haven't taken real LSD or it was too weak. Strong LSD is faaaar from being social or recreational. Maybe on a come down but in the middle... Mescaline is a similar case. High-dose 2c-e (accidental overdose) has put me in a lethargic dreamy state which was interesting and I was confused as I had REAL hallucinations, I mean... I thought about something and I was there and I've completely forgot about my surroundings but hey... it's not that 2c-e can connect you to the cosmic grid!
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
gabbaganchi
version 4.3



Registered: 03/17/10
Posts: 590
Loc: Great Plains
Last seen: 10 years, 11 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: drr]
#14533128 - 05/29/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
just because you find these substances devoid of spiritual element, who's to say the same for anyone else?
2c-b connected me to my body in a way i'd never experienced before. my balance is better than ever... i don't feel as awkward. making the mind and body one, is't not spiritual? i thought so.
i would reccomend people follow their hearts , that's just your opinion, mang!
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533149 - 05/29/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kras said:
Quote:
Moo456 said: I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
I can only laugh. Even on sensory side, LSD is far superior, more interesting, more metaphysical. And I have taken BIG doses of both and no one, even far more experienced drug users in my circles would challenge that. I don't want to be rude but maybe you are defending too much those compounds. Maybe you just haven't taken real LSD or it was too weak. Strong LSD is faaaar from being social or recreational. Maybe on a come down but in the middle... Mescaline is a similar case. High-dose 2c-e (accidental overdose) has put me in a lethargic dreamy state which was interesting and I was confused as I had REAL hallucinations, I mean... I thought about something and I was there and I've completely forgot about my surroundings but hey... it's not that 2c-e can connect you to the cosmic grid!
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
Moo456
Pied_Piper

Registered: 03/03/06
Posts: 4,591
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533277 - 05/29/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
A strong dose of any psychedelic isn't going to be social. I was just talking about the ratio of intensity to sociability compared to other psychedelics. You might be the one defending the compounds too much. It may also be you who hasn't tried the right RC's yet.
It isn't logical that the first psychedelic substances to be discovered are somehow superior. Most of the RC's that are around, are dependent on the difficulty of the synthesis and were just explorations based on known structures. There are still many more to come and it's inevitable that some will be at least as good as the one's that we have.
2c-e is already as good as LSD and mescaline IMO. I just think it could be a little more comfortable. It's only a matter of time before another great psychedelic is found that does have all the desirable attributes. DPT is supposed to be one of the great ones as well.
--------------------
Edited by Moo456 (05/29/11 10:14 PM)
|
Jeffedelic
Fucked Up On Life


Registered: 03/06/08
Posts: 1,040
Loc: Freedomland
Last seen: 6 months, 23 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Moo456]
#14533326 - 05/29/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
I have tripped hundreds of times on lots of different chemicals and I can say without a doubt that 2c-e is my #1 as of now. LSD is great, mushrooms are weird, and 2c-e is just fucking fantastic. I always thought something being "spiritual" was a very subjective experience. Who's to say there's not a guy out there who gets closer to himself and the universe while eating a grilled cheese sandwich? Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
--------------------
"It's hard to stay mad, when there's so much beauty in the world." -Lester Burnham
|
Micawber
...............................



Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 2,644
Loc: southeast
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533338 - 05/29/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
OP dont you think drawing a line in the sand is just a bit egotistical
-------------------- (mik-kaw'-bur) n. one who is poor but lives in optimistic expectation of better fortune
|
drr

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 8,444
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Jeffedelic]
#14533345 - 05/29/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Jeffedelic said: Who's to say there's not a guy out there who gets closer to himself and the universe while eating a grilled cheese sandwich?

Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
|
Samuel L Jackson
Bad Motherfucker


Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 8,393
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Jeffedelic]
#14533348 - 05/29/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Jeffedelic said: Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
but theyre from the earth and albert hofmann was a saint! those are holy compounds and everything else is worthless recreational crap which only degenerates would consume!!!
Quote:
drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
yes. yes times 1000.
--------------------
|
drr

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 8,444
|
|
Yeah ironically this thread sparked my interest in 2c's, but after the recent 2c-e/BDF scare I'm afraid to eat any mysterious internet powders now.
|
DiZzyBonne
Stranger

Registered: 02/02/10
Posts: 180
Last seen: 9 years, 8 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533497 - 05/29/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kras said: Not imposing anything on anyone. Re-read my posts.
I'm talking to people who seek what I'm seeking. I just want to save their time, effort, cash and health.
Have fun.
If anyone reading this wants to have a psychedelic trip for their first time, follow my guides and you won't regret it.
The problem with your statement is that all psychedelics affect everybody differently.
Edited by DiZzyBonne (05/30/11 03:22 PM)
|
LSDXM
What Doth Life?



Registered: 08/20/08
Posts: 2,505
Loc: The 518
Last seen: 6 months, 20 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14533986 - 05/30/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
OP your authoritative, dick headed tone is extremely offensive and pushy for no reason. Even if I agreed with you I'd tell you you were wrong just to shove you off your high horse.
Spiritual experiences depend explicitly on the individual in question. Not the chemical catalyst he chooses to ingest. There's nothing special about LSD that makes it some how magically 'more spiritual' than 2CE or any other drug. It's just a random chemical that some guy in some lab came up with one day, just like every other man made psychedelic. Maybe you think Albert Hoffman's chemical process is some how more 'divine' than Sasha Shulgin's?
Maybe if you weren't so god damn stuck up about what chemicals you're on you'd have a better time. That doesn't seem likely though since you're so obviously wrapped up in your role as the guy who's taken the most drugs and already knows everything about them 
Quote:
drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
2CE was the greatest, most well rounded, least pushy/agenda-heavy, yet fully immersing, contemplative psychedelic experience of my life. For me, 25mg was perfect; I weight 115 lbs
--------------------
The number of times I edit my post is directly related to the number of times I've hit the bong
Edited by LSDXM (05/30/11 12:48 AM)
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: LSDXM]
#14534388 - 05/30/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
IMPORTANT!
It was an error while typing. It's not me who has taken all the drugs but my friend. It supposed to mean that those who took lots of drugs didn't argue with the fact that phens are just week. All my friends preferred LSD, mushrooms or mescaline to any RC they have encountered. Sorry for the misunderstanding that annoyed some of you. I was just too tired and coming down from 2c-p, so I hope that you'll understand.
No, back to the topic. So, let's say what scientists have too say on the subject, okay? Here's a link to a video from a conference lead by a MAPS member:
I'm not biased against RCs but read what have Erowid.org written down about dangers. I've heard about a guy that have died from 2c-e overdose. What was very securing and what gave me a good way to get through bad trips is the fact that you cannot overdose mushrooms or LSD. After 2c-xes in higher doses I have shallow breath, my body feels like heavy. On other things I'd felt similar things but it was just my psyche and when my attitude or mood has shifted I didn't experienced those any more. While on 2c-xes it's just the action of a drug.
Nature versus chemicals isn't a bullshit. We have co-evolved with natural drugs and our bodies are more adept to process them. I can only point out the authority of Ayurveda that natural sources are always better. I can elaborate more on the subject.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
Mario_x86-64
Stranger

Registered: 10/11/10
Posts: 206
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14534456 - 05/30/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
DOI is worth trying for anyone who likes LSD. Isn't as good as LSD though ... and lasts twice as long. Doesn't stimulate as many receptors as LSD, feels like it has "less magic" to it (my own words.)
-------------------- (LSD) Lysergic Acid Diethylamide 25 "It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be." - Albert Hofmann "Drugs have done good things for us, if you don't believe they have do me a favor and take all your albums, tapes, CD's and burn them. Because you know what? Those musicians that have made that great music that has enhanced your lifes through out the years ... real fucking high on drugs." - Bill Hicks
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
|
Quote:
SamuelLJackson said:
Quote:
Jeffedelic said: Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
but theyre from the earth and albert hofmann was a saint! those are holy compounds and everything else is worthless recreational crap which only degenerates would consume!!!
Quote:
drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
yes. yes times 1000.
 2ce is the bomb :P
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
LSDilocybin
I AM


Registered: 08/21/05
Posts: 584
Loc: omnipresent
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Mario_x86-64]
#14534558 - 05/30/11 06:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
i think u should open your mind a bit more....stop comparing your dull mind to all of ours, we arent u and you arent us, so you dont know what the hell ur really saying as it only applies to you in your experiences.
"the dumbest people i know, are the ones who know everything" -- this applies to you, sir.
i can sense u arent having as good of a time as you could be because "he's being uptight, experiencing his own staleness" hilarious. but true.
-------------------- "We are perfect mirrors in the sun and we brightly shine, we are singing and dancing in perfect time, there is nothing in the world that we can do, to stop the light of love come shining through" --Sally Oldfield
"Vibrate in Love."
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Mario_x86-64]
#14534582 - 05/30/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Statements like that kill discussion. I'm presenting arguments, not only my own experiences. I'm saying what and why. There where some voices that made me ponder a little bit.
I had made one unfortunate statement, sorry about that. English isn't my native language. I'm trying to be honest and I really want to dig it a bit more because I'm curious about other peoples opinions. The reason why it's getting nowhere is because I mostly get 1-3 lines as a reply. I'm not sure if even anyone read whole my post. And it's not nice to say something without even listening what someone else has to say. From where this conclusion comes? Because most posters didn't even bothered to relate to anything I've written.
My thanks goes to others. I hope that this will get going. I'm not dogmatic but I have an opinion on that matter. If someone says "anything goes" then why he even bothers to write a 3-word post?
I can be in a huge error but if is it so you can try to communicate and to understand, to show your POV or... you can just try spread negative opinions. Man, people, you get frustrated so fast.
If you don't care, don't read, don't post. I haven't attacked anyone personally but please, LSDsilocybin, you don't know me so have some distance. I can just be confused or something like that.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
GoddessOfLove
Mother Monster


Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 3,766
Loc: VENUS
Last seen: 1 year, 8 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14534793 - 05/30/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
No way Phenethylamines and tryptamines are wonderful compounds, especially the 4-aCo/HO series, very mental and deep too ! 2C-E is a brain fucking too Look very similar to LSD just a bit stimulating
--------------------
|
Zardos
Stranger


Registered: 09/18/10
Posts: 1,077
Loc:
Last seen: 4 years, 6 days
|
|
Don't waste your time with RC's, cause I did not like them.
FIXED
-------------------- December 1960: "They took the drug one evening at Leary's house and had a profound experience, during which Ginsburg prophetically realized that it was a time to start "a peace and love movement". He then ran naked around the house, attempted to get Kruschev and Kennedy on the telephone and announced to the operator that he was God."
|
Jeffedelic
Fucked Up On Life


Registered: 03/06/08
Posts: 1,040
Loc: Freedomland
Last seen: 6 months, 23 days
|
|
Quote:
SamuelLJackson said:
Quote:
Jeffedelic said: Just because it wasn't produced by nature (biggest load of horse shit ever) and worshiped by the hippies is no reason to deem something not spiritual.
but theyre from the earth and albert hofmann was a saint! those are holy compounds and everything else is worthless recreational crap which only degenerates would consume!!!
Quote:
drr said: Should I try 2c-e? I've been avoiding it because I've heard bad things about it. I think people are just taking too much of it though. What do you think.
yes. yes times 1000.
Yes yes yes try 2ce. Make sure you have access to a milligram scale and dose away! It's an amazing feeling.
--------------------
"It's hard to stay mad, when there's so much beauty in the world." -Lester Burnham
|
heratogwea



Registered: 05/05/11
Posts: 607
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
|
|
Quote:
Kras said:
Quote:
Moo456 said: I completely disagree. I have found 2c-e to be an even better thinking tool than mescaline. Perhaps just because it was a mixture of cactus alkaloids.
LSD isn't particularly superior to other psychedelics as a thinking tool, it is easier to be social on than many though. It's actually more on the side of recreational than some RC's.
I can only laugh. Even on sensory side, LSD is far superior, more interesting, more metaphysical. And I have taken BIG doses of both and no one, even far more experienced drug users in my circles would challenge that. I don't want to be rude but maybe you are defending too much those compounds. Maybe you just haven't taken real LSD or it was too weak. Strong LSD is faaaar from being social or recreational. Maybe on a come down but in the middle... Mescaline is a similar case. High-dose 2c-e (accidental overdose) has put me in a lethargic dreamy state which was interesting and I was confused as I had REAL hallucinations, I mean... I thought about something and I was there and I've completely forgot about my surroundings but hey... it's not that 2c-e can connect you to the cosmic grid!
Quote:
SamuelLJackson said:

|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
|
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
|
Love2trip



Registered: 03/06/11
Posts: 435
Loc: Atlantis
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534916 - 05/30/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
if your looking for an RC that will "push the limit" try some bromo dragonfly. but for real man its all opinion
|
heratogwea



Registered: 05/05/11
Posts: 607
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534921 - 05/30/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
|
Micawber
...............................



Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 2,644
Loc: southeast
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534973 - 05/30/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
sorry to use the cliche as hell phrase
but who made you god i hope your trolling man
otherwise just holyfuck 
-------------------- (mik-kaw'-bur) n. one who is poor but lives in optimistic expectation of better fortune
|
the free thinker
salesman



Registered: 12/17/02
Posts: 1,877
Loc: twin cities
Last seen: 12 years, 7 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534980 - 05/30/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Get off your pedestal. There's absolutely nothing wrong with tripping to have fun.
--------------------
|
StanVillain
DMT Psychonaut



Registered: 01/01/11
Posts: 162
Last seen: 12 years, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14534984 - 05/30/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
*Sigh*
--------------------
|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: StanVillain]
#14535041 - 05/30/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
heratogwea said:
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
And IMO they abuse the tool when they have no special reason (-> target) to take it, sure i love the fun part of tripping but its not the main reason why i trip. I also strongly dislike the word "drug" when you talk about psychedelics, drug is a bad word. Psychedelics are no drugs when you know what you're doing. If you're after the high, id say call it a drug.
Take som pills or smoke weed if you're only after some fun. Look up on some "trippy" videos on youtube if you want visuals with that high
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
|
s0nny
a poinsettia in poison rain

Registered: 01/31/11
Posts: 2,246
Loc: Always Missing
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535065 - 05/30/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
--------------------
let go or be dragged
|
spazmodog



Registered: 02/27/11
Posts: 2,491
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535067 - 05/30/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
heratogwea said:
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
And IMO they abuse the tool when they have no special reason (-> target) to take it, sure i love the fun part of tripping but its not the main reason why i trip. I also strongly dislike the word "drug" when you talk about psychedelics, drug is a bad word. Psychedelics are no drugs when you know what you're doing. If you're after the high, id say call it a drug.
Take som pills or smoke weed if you're only after some fun. Look up on some "trippy" videos on youtube if you want visuals with that high 
who the fuck are you to make generalisations like
Quote:
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
i trip for fun?
am i in some way inferior to you?
fuck no
|
Damkina
Newcomer



Registered: 12/05/10
Posts: 328
Loc: Romania
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: s0nny]
#14535088 - 05/30/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Everyone takes psychedelics the way the want. One might want to just fuck up his mind,or see colours,one might want a introspective experience,or a healing one.It`s up to the user what he wants to get out of the tool he uses. It`s arogance to say that those who use them for other reasons that 'spiritual` give psychedelics a bad name.
People who happen to take them for spiritual reasons,and ingest the right dosage and the right substance at the right time,yet they happen to have badtrips and screw everything up and appear on news.
They can give you good kicks on the spiritual path,yet the risk of disilusion is real.
Actually I could use a dose of 2C-E to get a funny feeling when boning a girl,or to find bonus levels in mario. Does that matter ? Fun is fun,psychedelics are not as sacred as you think. Right now they are drugs,just like any other drugs.If I play on my xbox on mescaline that does not mean that the cacti spirit will just blow my mind away because I was doing it for the wrong reasons.
|
spazmodog



Registered: 02/27/11
Posts: 2,491
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535104 - 05/30/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
all drugs are multi-tools to be used however you see fit.
|
Led Zeppelin
Tripper


Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 3,962
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535105 - 05/30/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
i really wish I had some mescaline
|
s0nny
a poinsettia in poison rain

Registered: 01/31/11
Posts: 2,246
Loc: Always Missing
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535112 - 05/30/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Damkina said: Everyone takes psychedelics the way the want. One might want to just fuck up his mind,or see colours,one might want a introspective experience,or a healing one.It`s up to the user what he wants to get out of the tool he uses. It`s arogance to say that those who use them for other reasons that 'spiritual` give psychedelics a bad name.
People who happen to take them for spiritual reasons,and ingest the right dosage and the right substance at the right time,yet they happen to have badtrips and screw everything up and appear on news.
They can give you good kicks on the spiritual path,yet the risk of disilusion is real.
Actually I could use a dose of 2C-E to get a funny feeling when boning a girl,or to find bonus levels in mario. Does that matter ? Fun is fun,psychedelics are not as sacred as you think. Right now they are drugs,just like any other drugs.If I play on my xbox on mescaline that does not mean that the cacti spirit will just blow my mind away because I was doing it for the wrong reasons.
well put.
--------------------
let go or be dragged
|
heratogwea



Registered: 05/05/11
Posts: 607
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535118 - 05/30/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
heratogwea said:
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
And IMO they abuse the tool when they have no special reason (-> target) to take it, sure i love the fun part of tripping but its not the main reason why i trip. I also strongly dislike the word "drug" when you talk about psychedelics, drug is a bad word. Psychedelics are no drugs when you know what you're doing. If you're after the high, id say call it a drug.
Take som pills or smoke weed if you're only after some fun. Look up on some "trippy" videos on youtube if you want visuals with that high 
Sounds like you use drugs for building up your ego. Claiming enlightenment. If you were enlightened then you would know there is nothing wrong with having fun while you use these "tools".
There is a fine line between enlightenment and psychosis.
|
Micawber
...............................



Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 2,644
Loc: southeast
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: heratogwea]
#14535165 - 05/30/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
was it Shulgin that said one of the things you have to watch about psychedelics is the false reinforcement of your ego
-------------------- (mik-kaw'-bur) n. one who is poor but lives in optimistic expectation of better fortune
|
heratogwea



Registered: 05/05/11
Posts: 607
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber]
#14535183 - 05/30/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Micawber said: was it Shulgin that said one of the things you have to watch about psychedelics is the false reinforcement of your ego
I've read that too.
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber]
#14535200 - 05/30/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Micawber said: was it Shulgin that said one of the things you have to watch about psychedelics is the false reinforcement of your ego
This. Psychedelics are awesome tools to better understand yourself and become more aware of the moment. However they are ALSO awesome DRUGS.
There is a time and place for everything. I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal. Psychedelics are much like a small spade. You can use it to dig around your plants, making them healthy, or you can use it to build sand castles for fun on the beach. Both are perfectly acceptable uses. For me to stand there and say that you shouldn't use it to build a sand castle or you shouldn't use it to dig around your plants is quite close minded, and puts me on an egotistical pedestal saying my method is better then yours.
A better approach would be to accept that there are different uses for the tools you love, and to find out what uses you yourself would benefit most from.
For me, psychedelics are awesome tools for me to find out more about myself, and who I am. They are also really nice drugs too. It depends on what I want. Sometimes I want to trip and have a good time, dance, and party. Sometimes I want to delve deep into my inner conscious and see what is there.
Don't make the mistake of letting your ego direct what you are doing.
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
|
Quote:
heratogwea said: Sounds like you use drugs for building up your ego. Claiming enlightenment. If you were enlightened then you would know there is nothing wrong with having fun while you use these "tools".
There is a fine line between enlightenment and psychosis.
Cant you try to even see what im writing before you start attacking me in a MUCH arrogant way???
"Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses."
THIS IS A FACT MAN. That is the reason those who take psychedelics for fun gives it a bad name.
Also the way you put " around tools makes me question what you think of psychedelics.
But obviously, its up to you what you do with psychedelics, however im stil allowed to have an opinion.
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
|
Damkina
Newcomer



Registered: 12/05/10
Posts: 328
Loc: Romania
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
|
|
I can take a psychedelic almost all the time,I can get myself out of a badtrip,and if I can`t , I just accept it,and ride the paranoia train. I love doing it in the woods with my friends,or at the pool,playing video games,watching movies or whatever.
When I plan a spiritual trip,I take a few weeks off everything,calm my mind and purify my body. I fill my subconciousness with the right mind setting and the intentions for a introspective trip. Then when the right time comes,it could come in a week,or a month,I just take it alone at home,with a good selection of music to induce a spiritual vibe.
Psychedelics are known to induce enlightement illusions to users.Sure it can give you good revelations,yet most of the time they just stick to the ego and make it bigger and more powerfull. And that my friend is not enlightement at all.One has to dissolve the ego before the trip,during,AND when the trip is re-integrated. Then it should slowly let it rebuild,but one should not be filled with the feeling of superiority that he has seen something that no one ever has seen and he is the chosen one for ...
|
2ndChancesRDivine
I slayed the Jabberwock!



Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 1,100
Loc: ked up in my mind..
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
|
Buddy, some RC's while mundane are kind of fun! 25D-NBOMe at about 1.5mg IN is a good trippy feel with a great visual enhancement! Back to picking apricots! WHeeeee!
--------------------
    All your RC are belong to me.
|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535277 - 05/30/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
|
PsychedelicWizard
The Created



Registered: 03/15/10
Posts: 788
Loc: Florida
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
|
|
I like all psychedelics and respect them for what they are...why do people try to opinion-ate something that isnt meant to be.
Your only mind-fucking yourself when you cant embrace the truth of the experience, just because there was something about what you ingested you "did not like" not trying to be an ass here, but really, just let it flow man.
-------------------- When the student is ready, the master appears. ~Buddhist Proverb
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535295 - 05/30/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write.
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
|
tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write.

This is what someone in this thread said to me when i stated my opinion.
In the eyes of other posters in this thread you're as arrogant as me. 
"You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write."
Here you do it again.
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge] 1
#14535338 - 05/30/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
liquidlounge said: tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write.

This is what someone in this thread said to me when i stated my opinion.
In the eyes of other posters in this thread you're as arrogant as me. 
"You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write."
Here you do it again. 
Not really. The difference is I am stating that its basically everyone finds different uses from the same tool, and no one can tell another that that use is not as good as yours. Read my post. I use a nice analogy. I have nothing against the way you USE your tool, but how you yell at others for their use of the tool that does not conform to your standards.
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
Edited by Cyclohexylamine (05/30/11 11:15 AM)
|
Micawber
...............................



Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 2,644
Loc: southeast
|
|
THIS IS FUCKED the narrow minedness coming out of some of you guys is just, 
universal acceptance of life going with the flow they sound like nice goals to me
instead you guys seem to have a set doctrine i need to follow
the fuck???
im out /
-------------------- (mik-kaw'-bur) n. one who is poor but lives in optimistic expectation of better fortune
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber]
#14535385 - 05/30/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Micawber said: THIS IS FUCKED the narrow minedness coming out of some of you guys is just, 
universal acceptance of life going with the flow they sound like nice goals to me
instead you guys seem to have a set doctrine i need to follow
the fuck???
im out /
Exactly, that is what I was trying to state and then I get called out by him  Everyone has different uses for the same tool and no one use is better than the others.
There is no arguing it.
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
Edited by Cyclohexylamine (05/30/11 11:35 AM)
|
SummerDaisies
Out of Retirement



Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 8,615
Loc: Rocky Mountain High Or at...
Last seen: 4 years, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: muistrue]
#14535396 - 05/30/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
FractalDust said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun?  Not everyone trips for the same reason, why impose your ideas on everyone else? Maybe you should just stop taking RC's?
I agree with this, phenethylamines are really fun.
and i still think you can get something from the experience, its just different than a tryp
-------------------- [quote]Abuse said: summerfaggot is one of the biggest cunts on this site.[/quote]
|
drr

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 8,444
|
|
Quote:
the free thinker said:
Quote:
liquidlounge said:
Quote:
PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Get off your pedestal. There's absolutely nothing wrong with tripping to have fun.

|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
|
Hehehehehe... this forum has been overrun with ridiculous behaviour. It's a shame because few years ago you actually were able to talk on the right level and people were far more reserved before they have started calling others with names.
Look... psychedelics weren't toys for the shamans. Go to Amazon and tell the shaman that you want to trip for fun. See what he tells you. Seriously, psychedelics are drugs and that means that they can be beneficial in right doses, done for purpose. They are POWERFUL psychoactives and aggressive replies in this thread shows that most of you are defending positions that cannot be defended.
Jest because someone has right doesn't mean that he is arrogant. Well... whatever. In a week or so you won't even remember this discussion. I don't care and I won't disturb you all.
To those thinking alike, it's better to move along. Leave this forum to those who are wasting their lives on being a passive consumers. There's much to do.
Just to piss you off, kids. You are irresponsible and immature.
Have a nice day and lots of funny mindfucks.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
drr

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 8,444
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14535436 - 05/30/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think any of us are trying to call ourselves shamans, man.
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14535439 - 05/30/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I've never tried 2C-X. Does the X stand for Xtreme!?
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14535519 - 05/30/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
insipidtoast said: I've never tried 2C-X. Does the X stand for Xtreme!?
:p Its a placeholder for the third letter, eg: 2C-P, 2C-E, 2C-I, 2C-D, 2C-C
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
SummerDaisies
Out of Retirement



Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 8,615
Loc: Rocky Mountain High Or at...
Last seen: 4 years, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14535657 - 05/30/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
insipidtoast said: I've never tried 2C-X. Does the X stand for Xtreme!?
you are really making yourself look like a fool in my opinion. I don't think there is anything wrong with taking these chemicals and to tell people that they should ingest one thing but not ingest another reminds of someone...
who are you guys to tell people why or why not to trip? If they were straight up abusing things like DMT then i can understand you telling them they are not understanding the full meaning of the chemical, but when you are telling people they are giving psychedelics a bad name for taking them for fun... did the Grateful Dead give psychedelics a bad name?
-------------------- [quote]Abuse said: summerfaggot is one of the biggest cunts on this site.[/quote]
|
MLDSMDA
All good things in all good time



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 259
Last seen: 11 years, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14535663 - 05/30/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
2cp is not good for you man. I completely agree with just about everything your saying. Something just isn't right with these rc's. After I had dosed on 2cp about twenty times I started to feel how bad it was for me, when it was way too late. I have pains in my kidneys regularly now and I feel like it fried my nervous system. Just the thought of it makes me sick because my body thinks of it as a poison now. You guys can waste your time on these drugs and say whatever you want, I'll stick to the tried and tested psyches. The people making these drugs don't care about your health. They care about money and making the next "hardcore badass" drug to get kids to waste their money on. I had twenty hits of p left a few weeks back and I just flushed it along with my 5-meo-dalt and jwh. Just keep dosing on them. After the funs over and it's too late you'll be wishing you hadn't. It's just a shitty cheap high, why don't you spend your money on real drugs. Hell Id rather shoot heroin all day than go back rc's.
|
2ndChancesRDivine
I slayed the Jabberwock!



Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 1,100
Loc: ked up in my mind..
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14535775 - 05/30/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Why stick with the tried and true when you can go play around in new frontiers? You can stay in New York, I'm gonna hit the Oregon trail.
--------------------
    All your RC are belong to me.
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14535825 - 05/30/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
We do live in a world where people eat adulturated, unlabelled food on a daily basis without an awareness of it's long term effects. So, it's really not a stretch of the imagination that some people decide to consume "psychedelic" chemicals that have a very short history of human use.
I once consumed 2C-I. That was a very interesting, insightful and enlightening experience, however, nowadays I probably wouldn't touch anything like that. That's just where I was at back then.
The bottom line is that everyone is on their own path of truth. Right or wrong is a matter of subjectivity. Consequences, on the other hand, do not care for right or wrong; they exist solely as an answer to behavior.
|
MLDSMDA
All good things in all good time



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 259
Last seen: 11 years, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14535956 - 05/30/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I understand people are going to keep eating these, and that my words will probably barely effect their decisions. Id just rather have said something than nothing at all.
Edit- And these new frontiers won't take you anywhere the old ones can't man.
Edited by MLDSMDA (05/30/11 01:16 PM)
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14536006 - 05/30/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Oh, I see. My response wasn't to you...just so you know. It was a response after reading the entire thread. You had the nearest reply button, that's why it says I responded specifically to you.
I understand what you're saying.
|
utk
Ellis, Dee M.D
Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 473
Last seen: 2 years, 7 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14536140 - 05/30/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Psychedelics aren't the truth, yet there not a lie either just like our thoughts. Not everything you see is true and not every trip is without meaning. I have tried dpt and that stuff was decent although I am more of an oral drug user rather than snorting or smoking. The tryptamine giggles of low dosing were fun.
I am open to trying 2c but havent had a chance. They are mescaline analogs afterall, they aren't just some psychedelic amphetamine. Or else mescaline is just a psychedelic amphetamine.
I dont really agree that natural is always better. Meth has been found in nature in the acacia rigidis. I have only tried the classics, I'll wait till I try 2c and Do before I add anymore.
|
2ndChancesRDivine
I slayed the Jabberwock!



Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 1,100
Loc: ked up in my mind..
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14536154 - 05/30/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
MLDSMDA said: I understand people are going to keep eating these, and that my words will probably barely effect their decisions. Id just rather have said something than nothing at all.
Edit- And these new frontiers won't take you anywhere the old ones can't man.
Thats not the point. The point is to boldly go where no man, but many mice, rats, and perhaps rabbits, have gone before. Just tread lightly, you never know when you might step on a snake. The path is dangerous sure, but without any risk there will never be a reward. You never know when you might strike it rich and find a psychedelic "gold mine".
--------------------
    All your RC are belong to me.
|
Moo456
Pied_Piper

Registered: 03/03/06
Posts: 4,591
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: utk]
#14536169 - 05/30/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah psychedelics have been the least useful/comfortable when snorting or smoking them. Someday I want to try DPT orally with some caapi vine or another MAOI. Good point about how the psychedelic is simply our thoughts, and obviously anything you think of while on a substance should be evaluated while sober.
I think that no matter what the reason a person uses psychedelics for, they will end up analyzing concepts in a very different way than usual and learn something. Taking the experience less seriously may actually be healthier for the mind and have less potential for delusion.
--------------------
|
MLDSMDA
All good things in all good time



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 259
Last seen: 11 years, 1 month
|
|
Go for it. It's just not too smart to eat drugs with no real knowledge of what they can do to the body. I have to deal with the adverse effects of this myself now, and I'm sure if you eat a bunch of rc's you one day will too.
|
2ndChancesRDivine
I slayed the Jabberwock!



Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 1,100
Loc: ked up in my mind..
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14536347 - 05/30/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
--------------------
    All your RC are belong to me.
|
StanVillain
DMT Psychonaut



Registered: 01/01/11
Posts: 162
Last seen: 12 years, 5 months
|
|
I disagree and you seem to be trying to write the law of psychedelics based only on your experiences and what you think they should mean. It's egotistic and very childish in my opinion. I respect your opinion but it sounds like something that comes out of a young boy who believes his opinions and ideals are the only correct one and refuse to even think about alternatives. With such an ego it's impossible to have a correct debate on the subject because we'll just run around in circles.
--------------------
|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: StanVillain]
#14536698 - 05/30/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
StanVillain said: I disagree and you seem to be trying to write the law of psychedelics based only on your experiences and what you think they should mean. It's egotistic and very childish in my opinion. I respect your opinion but it sounds like something that comes out of a young boy who believes his opinions and ideals are the only correct one and refuse to even think about alternatives. With such an ego it's impossible to have a correct debate on the subject because we'll just run around in circles.
You're very good at judging/attacking people, and to be honest, you dont belong in a thread like this when all you do is tell everyone how arrogant and how big of an ego they have.
I think you need to understand that some people are experienced and know what they are talking about.
MLDSMDA is only sending out a warning to people, and he is doing a good/important job at it.
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
|
StanVillain
DMT Psychonaut



Registered: 01/01/11
Posts: 162
Last seen: 12 years, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14536761 - 05/30/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
He tries to generalize people and psychedelics based only on his experiences. It's his opinion but he tries to push it as a fact which is why I'll disagree with him. I was not trying to attack him either. I could care less about that. I just hope he realizes that he wasn't being fair in generalizing things that no one could really completely understand. Experiences will vary from person to person till the end of time and his experiences and opinions will never apply to everyone and everything. I do agree with bits here and there though.
--------------------
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: StanVillain]
#14536855 - 05/30/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I had made a huge mistake. Saying that some drug is bad can to some people sound like "it's too strong and I can't handle it, maybe you will manage where I've failed!"
The truth is that no one is ever in power to force anything on anyone through some damn website. I know that others will do what they please.
Yet, I had respiratory problems with many RCs. Just a reminder.
P.S. I've just washed down 150mg of 2c-p. It's like 15 doses. This is far better reason for flaming then arrogant posts, don't you think?
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
StanVillain
DMT Psychonaut



Registered: 01/01/11
Posts: 162
Last seen: 12 years, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14536894 - 05/30/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
That's not where I think you made your mistake lol.
--------------------
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: utk]
#14536930 - 05/30/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
utk said: Meth has been found in nature in the acacia rigidis.
Has it really? I've been meaning to ask about that because I'd heard that a natural source of meth had been found a few years ago.
|
Kras



Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 330
Last seen: 4 months, 4 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: StanVillain]
#14536980 - 05/30/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
StanVillain said: That's not where I think you made your mistake lol.
I know but at least I'm trying to make it cool before I leave You know, karma thingy.
-------------------- enjoy life!
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14537031 - 05/30/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Ask Dr. Shulgin Online
ARCHIVE: September 26, 2001
Acacias and Natural Amphetamine
Dear Dr. Shulgin:
Are you familiar with Acacia berlandieri and A. rigidula which were noted to contain various a-methyl-b-phenethylamines? Do you have any ideas as to what the botanical origins of these structural carbon skeletons might be? The literature citations are PHYTOCHEM. (1998), 49(5), 1377 and PHYTOCHEM. (1997), 46(2), 249.
-- Auto
Dear Auto:
I am familiar with the literature concerning these two West Texas Acacia species, but not with the plants themselves. I had both these PHYTOCHEMISTRY papers in my Acacia file but I must admit that I have some very mixed feelings about them.
What caught my curiosity immediately was the casual indifference shown to what is certainly an extraordinary discovery. Here, amongst some 40 or so alkaloids found in each of these two species, there were five amphetamines that had heretofore been thought to be inventions of man. Two of these are Schedule II drugs, Amphetamine and Methamphetamine. Two are Schedule I drugs, N,N-Dimethylamphetamine and 4-Methoxyamphetamine. And the fifth one is a major human metabolite of Amphetamine, 4-Hydroxyamphetamine. To my knowledge, none of these had ever before been reported as being natural plant alkaloids. This unprecedented discovery elicited only a passing line of comment in the earlier of the two papers.
My first thoughts as to origin were directed towards the well known natural hydroxylated amphetamines such as norephedrine, ephedrine and N-methylephedrine. I know that ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, frequent precursors in the illegal synthesis of methamphetamine, can be reduced to methamphetamine as an artifact of analysis. The sample insertion conditions of the gas chromatograph can effect this conversion. But then, there was no mention of any of these hydroxylated alkaloids as being present in either Acacia.
Might a contaminated round-bottomed flask have been purchased at a garage sale outside an abandoned meth-lab and served as the source of these "man-made" compounds? Unlikely, even in Texas.
Even more dramatic, one of these amphetamines, the 4-Methoxyamphetamine, is the increasingly notorious PMA that is appearing as one of the lethal "Ecstasy" offerings in the rave scene.
Several months ago I tried to contact, individually, the two principal authors, by both e-mail and personal snail-mail, and I have received no response as yet.
There is certainly precedent for a drug which was originally man-made, to be discovered in a plant. N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) was first synthesized by Manske, in Canada, in the 1930s. It was over twenty years later that it was discovered in a plant from South America. But such an event usually evokes considerable commentary. Here it seems that an exciting story is being ignored. Am I missing something?
-- Dr. Shulgin
|
muistrue
Inspired by the mystery


Registered: 03/20/05
Posts: 12,899
Loc: Behind the Redwoods
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14537063 - 05/30/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
insipidtoast said: There is certainly precedent for a drug which was originally man-made, to be discovered in a plant. N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) was first synthesized by Manske, in Canada, in the 1930s. It was over twenty years later that it was discovered in a plant from South America. But such an event usually evokes considerable commentary. Here it seems that an exciting story is being ignored. Am I missing something?
-- Dr. Shulgin
I love this. Shulgin has also said he wouldn't be surprised at all if a plant will be discovered in the future to contain LSD. I for one am convinced that when it comes to drugs nature beat us to it across the board, we're just catching up.
--------------------
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: muistrue]
#14537114 - 05/30/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Now we have something other than "thou art unwise young grasshopper" drug nerds arguing at each other. Perfect.
|
Moo456
Pied_Piper

Registered: 03/03/06
Posts: 4,591
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14538035 - 05/30/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
insipidtoast said:
Quote:
utk said: Meth has been found in nature in the acacia rigidis.
Has it really? I've been meaning to ask about that because I'd heard that a natural source of meth had been found a few years ago.
According to wikipedia it contains at least some amount of these substances.
# 3,4,5-Trihydroxy-phenethylamine (demethylated mescaline)[7] # Methamphetamine # Anhalamine[7] # Beta-methyl-phenethylamine[7] # Catechin[7] # Dimethyltryptamine – 323.8 ppm spring, 568.4 ppm fall[6] # Fisetin[7] # Hordenine[7] # Mescaline[7] # N-Methyltryptamine – 4.6 ppm spring, 54.9 ppm fall[6] # Nicotine[7] # Nornicotine[7] # Phenethylamine[7] – 2314.6 ppm spring, 5264.8 ppm fall[6] # Quercetin[7] # Tyramine[7] # Tryptamine
--------------------
|
drr

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 8,444
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Moo456]
#14538042 - 05/30/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moo456 said:
Quote:
insipidtoast said:
Quote:
utk said: Meth has been found in nature in the acacia rigidis.
Has it really? I've been meaning to ask about that because I'd heard that a natural source of meth had been found a few years ago.
According to wikipedia it contains at least some amount of these substances.
# 3,4,5-Trihydroxy-phenethylamine (demethylated mescaline)[7] # Methamphetamine # Anhalamine[7] # Beta-methyl-phenethylamine[7] # Catechin[7] # Dimethyltryptamine – 323.8 ppm spring, 568.4 ppm fall[6] # Fisetin[7] # Hordenine[7] # Mescaline[7] # N-Methyltryptamine – 4.6 ppm spring, 54.9 ppm fall[6] # Nicotine[7] # Nornicotine[7] # Phenethylamine[7] – 2314.6 ppm spring, 5264.8 ppm fall[6] # Quercetin[7] # Tyramine[7] # Tryptamine
One plant that contains methamphetamine, DMT, mescaline, nicotine, among others? That's pretty crazy if it is true, I had no idea.
|
healing
Strangest



Registered: 02/22/11
Posts: 6,565
Loc: the universe, the milky w...
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14538300 - 05/30/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Sorry to bring this back to topic. I really enjoy where this is going, so please skim this and move one to the more interesting part of the conversation.
I personally won't touch any of the 2Cs. The only one I'm even interested in is 2C-D because of its nootropic effects, but even the miraculous increase in the capacity for learning it provides does not come with enough evidence to make me feel safe taking it.
-------------------- Open mind, open heart, open book.
|
maug



Registered: 11/28/10
Posts: 1,703
Loc: inside you
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber]
#14538392 - 05/30/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Micawber said: OP dont you think drawing a line in the sand is just a bit egotistical
I think that there should be a difference between a spiritual trip, and a spiritually empty pretty lights show. Just because you are more comfortable with it doesn't mean shit. When you tell people to not do what they are comfortable with, their ego speaks up. When your ego is confronted, you think the other person is egotistical because it's infringing on you. I don't know if all of those people who don't like intense psychedelics are really into the idea of finding something new, or confronting their own inner demons. Imo, it's like someone saying they like alcohol, but not psychedelics. They don't want their ego to be confronted.
-------------------- I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction. -Calvin and Hobbes
|
abltsandwich
JFK = Jelly Donut




Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 11,537
Loc: Dildoville
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14538457 - 05/30/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
2c-i is fun times but nothing amazing, it's the only RC I've taken so I can't judge the lot of them really. 2c-i at the 25-30mg range is more "trippy" than "tripping" but even then I think that's being kind of unfair to the drug. I still get some good visuals if I look at abstract or fractal designs. Know what I meaN? yeeaaaaahhhh k let's just say that's it's fairly gravy.
|
utk
Ellis, Dee M.D
Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 473
Last seen: 2 years, 7 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: maug]
#14538841 - 05/31/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I was with you until halfway through what you said. Ego death is a time of destroy and rebuild, but when you reach a certain point and like where your going why destroy. You must have a balance between power and love. It is not wrong to have drive and consideration for your own needs. It is wrong to blindly take without considering other's needs and be completely close minded. When you have a balance between power and love why would you upset that balance and have no power.
Trips which don't have a ego crushing effect serve as reminders of those trips which define who we are today through associative memory. It is not the same as alcohol because there is no common neurochemical association between the two. alcohol gives you more feeling of power, but it lowers your power so it makes u a . I see 2c as being a balance of actual cognitive and physical power and the empathy of psychedelics which put an emphasis on our needs as a collective.
Have you also considered that people have a relationship with the classics that changes overtime. They have to work through increasing hell to reach the nirvana of afterglow and it almost makes it not worth it. The anxiety factor increases with time as we age and gain more responsibility and being faced with these problems without our usual power and confidence is too much. 2c is sought for its comparative clarity.
OP came on strong, but IMO you flamers are equally or more pious. Atleast he backed off somewhat. If these trips were so spiritual to you guys then why are you being so vicious toward one another. "were pro life and we'll kill your ass".
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: drr]
#14542175 - 05/31/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
drr said:
Quote:
Moo456 said:
Quote:
insipidtoast said:
Quote:
utk said: Meth has been found in nature in the acacia rigidis.
Has it really? I've been meaning to ask about that because I'd heard that a natural source of meth had been found a few years ago.
According to wikipedia it contains at least some amount of these substances.
# 3,4,5-Trihydroxy-phenethylamine (demethylated mescaline)[7] # Methamphetamine # Anhalamine[7] # Beta-methyl-phenethylamine[7] # Catechin[7] # Dimethyltryptamine – 323.8 ppm spring, 568.4 ppm fall[6] # Fisetin[7] # Hordenine[7] # Mescaline[7] # N-Methyltryptamine – 4.6 ppm spring, 54.9 ppm fall[6] # Nicotine[7] # Nornicotine[7] # Phenethylamine[7] – 2314.6 ppm spring, 5264.8 ppm fall[6] # Quercetin[7] # Tyramine[7] # Tryptamine
One plant that contains methamphetamine, DMT, mescaline, nicotine, among others? That's pretty crazy if it is true, I had no idea.
Sign me up!
|
Marco
Stranger
Registered: 11/06/10
Posts: 1
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: insipidtoast]
#14551649 - 06/02/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Kras, I understand what you mean, and mostly agree. Antway I'm happy to have tested some RC psychedelics; they are not entheogen, but they can used to cure and heal, in the right hands, setting and doses. Nobody would doubt that they are more dangerous and less effective than natural substances traditionally known to induce love, forgiveness and gratitude with a safest body load. LSD has the best features of both these categories.
|
Remix
grammer natze



Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 4,171
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14552530 - 06/02/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Maybe you're just the sort of person who isn't very fascinated by the effects of entactogens? Are you more extroverted or introverted? Your personality could play a large roll in what types of drugs spiritually/intellectually benefit you the most.
I would argue that people can have mystical, profound or deeply introspective experiences on any type of hallucinogen, and just about any drug for that matter. It just depends on what works for their personality.
--------------------
|
LawL mushrooms
El Gringo Loco


Registered: 10/23/08
Posts: 184
Loc: New Mexico/Nevada
Last seen: 11 years, 1 month
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Remix]
#14552952 - 06/02/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
http://youtu.be/s-TnlyvuBAs
I am not trying to make fun or anything. But do these shaman look very serious when they do this, like yeah they are 'connecting' to the spirits but seriously, they look like they are having fun too.
-------------------- Living A Wild Life-LawL "Why are we here?" "I am here to help others, i don't know why the others are here"
|
Moo456
Pied_Piper

Registered: 03/03/06
Posts: 4,591
|
|
Deep Down we all know we wouldn't seek things if there wasn't something that draws us. Enlightenment is tied to desire.
--------------------
|
baraka



Registered: 07/15/00
Posts: 10,768
Loc: hyperspace
Last seen: 2 years, 27 days
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Kras]
#14553028 - 06/02/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
LSD OR BUST
I hate to say it but LSD > all including mush
-------------------- This is the only time I really feel alive.
|
muistrue
Inspired by the mystery


Registered: 03/20/05
Posts: 12,899
Loc: Behind the Redwoods
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: baraka]
#14553051 - 06/02/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
baraka said: LSD OR BUST
I hate to say it but LSD > all including mush
I agree LSD > shrooms but mescaline is king.
--------------------
|
insipidtoast
Stranger


Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 745
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Moo456]
#14554341 - 06/03/11 05:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moo456 said: Enlightenment is tied to desire.
Buddhism teaches that it's also the worst way to get there.
|
Cyclohexylamine
Turn on, Tune in, Drop out



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 14,327
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: muistrue]
#14554403 - 06/03/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
FractalDust said:
Quote:
baraka said: LSD OR BUST
I hate to say it but LSD > all including mush
I agree LSD > shrooms but mescaline is king.
Not true at all. Everything is awesome in its own way. Again apples and oranges. I LOVE acid. But shrooms also have a special place in my heart They are quite awesome for deep nights
-------------------- Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world? There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K Something abut that anaesthetic rush... Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One
|
liquidlounge


Registered: 12/22/10
Posts: 9,256
|
|
I know / dont think you have consumed quality mescaline if you think LSD is better.
-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
Edited by liquidlounge (06/03/11 10:29 AM)
|
Moo456
Pied_Piper

Registered: 03/03/06
Posts: 4,591
|
Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14554974 - 06/03/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
insipidtoast said:
Quote:
Moo456 said: Enlightenment is tied to desire.
Buddhism teaches that it's also the worst way to get there.
Maybe that is its flaw. Trying to completely resist something that is part of us. Holding back can help us with self control, but obviously we will always have the compulsion to do something.
--------------------
|
|