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liquidlounge


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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: StanVillain]
#14535041 - 05/30/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
And IMO they abuse the tool when they have no special reason (-> target) to take it, sure i love the fun part of tripping but its not the main reason why i trip. I also strongly dislike the word "drug" when you talk about psychedelics, drug is a bad word. Psychedelics are no drugs when you know what you're doing. If you're after the high, id say call it a drug.
Take som pills or smoke weed if you're only after some fun. Look up on some "trippy" videos on youtube if you want visuals with that high
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535065 - 05/30/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535067 - 05/30/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
And IMO they abuse the tool when they have no special reason (-> target) to take it, sure i love the fun part of tripping but its not the main reason why i trip. I also strongly dislike the word "drug" when you talk about psychedelics, drug is a bad word. Psychedelics are no drugs when you know what you're doing. If you're after the high, id say call it a drug.
Take som pills or smoke weed if you're only after some fun. Look up on some "trippy" videos on youtube if you want visuals with that high 
who the fuck are you to make generalisations like
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Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
i trip for fun?
am i in some way inferior to you?
fuck no
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: s0nny]
#14535088 - 05/30/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everyone takes psychedelics the way the want. One might want to just fuck up his mind,or see colours,one might want a introspective experience,or a healing one.It`s up to the user what he wants to get out of the tool he uses. It`s arogance to say that those who use them for other reasons that 'spiritual` give psychedelics a bad name.
People who happen to take them for spiritual reasons,and ingest the right dosage and the right substance at the right time,yet they happen to have badtrips and screw everything up and appear on news.
They can give you good kicks on the spiritual path,yet the risk of disilusion is real.
Actually I could use a dose of 2C-E to get a funny feeling when boning a girl,or to find bonus levels in mario. Does that matter ? Fun is fun,psychedelics are not as sacred as you think. Right now they are drugs,just like any other drugs.If I play on my xbox on mescaline that does not mean that the cacti spirit will just blow my mind away because I was doing it for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535104 - 05/30/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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all drugs are multi-tools to be used however you see fit.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535105 - 05/30/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i really wish I had some mescaline
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s0nny
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535112 - 05/30/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damkina said: Everyone takes psychedelics the way the want. One might want to just fuck up his mind,or see colours,one might want a introspective experience,or a healing one.It`s up to the user what he wants to get out of the tool he uses. It`s arogance to say that those who use them for other reasons that 'spiritual` give psychedelics a bad name.
People who happen to take them for spiritual reasons,and ingest the right dosage and the right substance at the right time,yet they happen to have badtrips and screw everything up and appear on news.
They can give you good kicks on the spiritual path,yet the risk of disilusion is real.
Actually I could use a dose of 2C-E to get a funny feeling when boning a girl,or to find bonus levels in mario. Does that matter ? Fun is fun,psychedelics are not as sacred as you think. Right now they are drugs,just like any other drugs.If I play on my xbox on mescaline that does not mean that the cacti spirit will just blow my mind away because I was doing it for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535118 - 05/30/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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PorcupinesRevenge said: Maybe some people like tripping... to have fun? 
These are the people giving psychedelic tools a bad name.
Orly?
Everybody trips for their own reasons. Instead of being a fag about people having fun tripping you should respect it. Especially if your "enlightened" by drugs.
Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses.
And IMO they abuse the tool when they have no special reason (-> target) to take it, sure i love the fun part of tripping but its not the main reason why i trip. I also strongly dislike the word "drug" when you talk about psychedelics, drug is a bad word. Psychedelics are no drugs when you know what you're doing. If you're after the high, id say call it a drug.
Take som pills or smoke weed if you're only after some fun. Look up on some "trippy" videos on youtube if you want visuals with that high 
Sounds like you use drugs for building up your ego. Claiming enlightenment. If you were enlightened then you would know there is nothing wrong with having fun while you use these "tools".
There is a fine line between enlightenment and psychosis.
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: heratogwea]
#14535165 - 05/30/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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was it Shulgin that said one of the things you have to watch about psychedelics is the false reinforcement of your ego
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heratogwea



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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber]
#14535183 - 05/30/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Micawber said: was it Shulgin that said one of the things you have to watch about psychedelics is the false reinforcement of your ego
I've read that too.
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Micawber]
#14535200 - 05/30/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Micawber said: was it Shulgin that said one of the things you have to watch about psychedelics is the false reinforcement of your ego
This. Psychedelics are awesome tools to better understand yourself and become more aware of the moment. However they are ALSO awesome DRUGS.
There is a time and place for everything. I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal. Psychedelics are much like a small spade. You can use it to dig around your plants, making them healthy, or you can use it to build sand castles for fun on the beach. Both are perfectly acceptable uses. For me to stand there and say that you shouldn't use it to build a sand castle or you shouldn't use it to dig around your plants is quite close minded, and puts me on an egotistical pedestal saying my method is better then yours.
A better approach would be to accept that there are different uses for the tools you love, and to find out what uses you yourself would benefit most from.
For me, psychedelics are awesome tools for me to find out more about myself, and who I am. They are also really nice drugs too. It depends on what I want. Sometimes I want to trip and have a good time, dance, and party. Sometimes I want to delve deep into my inner conscious and see what is there.
Don't make the mistake of letting your ego direct what you are doing.
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liquidlounge


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heratogwea said: Sounds like you use drugs for building up your ego. Claiming enlightenment. If you were enlightened then you would know there is nothing wrong with having fun while you use these "tools".
There is a fine line between enlightenment and psychosis.
Cant you try to even see what im writing before you start attacking me in a MUCH arrogant way???
"Those who are only after the fun part of tripping has most likely not read up on what they ingest. They are also more likely to take uncontrolled doses."
THIS IS A FACT MAN. That is the reason those who take psychedelics for fun gives it a bad name.
Also the way you put " around tools makes me question what you think of psychedelics.
But obviously, its up to you what you do with psychedelics, however im stil allowed to have an opinion.
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I can take a psychedelic almost all the time,I can get myself out of a badtrip,and if I can`t , I just accept it,and ride the paranoia train. I love doing it in the woods with my friends,or at the pool,playing video games,watching movies or whatever.
When I plan a spiritual trip,I take a few weeks off everything,calm my mind and purify my body. I fill my subconciousness with the right mind setting and the intentions for a introspective trip. Then when the right time comes,it could come in a week,or a month,I just take it alone at home,with a good selection of music to induce a spiritual vibe.
Psychedelics are known to induce enlightement illusions to users.Sure it can give you good revelations,yet most of the time they just stick to the ego and make it bigger and more powerfull. And that my friend is not enlightement at all.One has to dissolve the ego before the trip,during,AND when the trip is re-integrated. Then it should slowly let it rebuild,but one should not be filled with the feeling of superiority that he has seen something that no one ever has seen and he is the chosen one for ...
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Buddy, some RC's while mundane are kind of fun! 25D-NBOMe at about 1.5mg IN is a good trippy feel with a great visual enhancement! Back to picking apricots! WHeeeee!
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liquidlounge


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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: Damkina]
#14535277 - 05/30/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
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I like all psychedelics and respect them for what they are...why do people try to opinion-ate something that isnt meant to be.
Your only mind-fucking yourself when you cant embrace the truth of the experience, just because there was something about what you ingested you "did not like" not trying to be an ass here, but really, just let it flow man.
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge]
#14535295 - 05/30/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write.
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liquidlounge


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tymoteusz3 said:
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liquidlounge said:
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tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write.

This is what someone in this thread said to me when i stated my opinion.
In the eyes of other posters in this thread you're as arrogant as me. 
"You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write."
Here you do it again.
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Don't waste your time with RCs [Re: liquidlounge] 1
#14535338 - 05/30/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: tymoteusz3 said:
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liquidlounge said:
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tymoteusz3 said: I think what OP and a few others are making the mistake of placing psychedelics on a god like pedestal.
"Who the fuck are you to say that is a mistake?"
You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write.

This is what someone in this thread said to me when i stated my opinion.
In the eyes of other posters in this thread you're as arrogant as me. 
"You yourself prove it is a mistake or flawed reasoning. By your attitude and what you write."
Here you do it again. 
Not really. The difference is I am stating that its basically everyone finds different uses from the same tool, and no one can tell another that that use is not as good as yours. Read my post. I use a nice analogy. I have nothing against the way you USE your tool, but how you yell at others for their use of the tool that does not conform to your standards.
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Edited by Cyclohexylamine (05/30/11 11:15 AM)
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THIS IS FUCKED the narrow minedness coming out of some of you guys is just, 
universal acceptance of life going with the flow they sound like nice goals to me
instead you guys seem to have a set doctrine i need to follow
the fuck???
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